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ana_bee
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posted December 09, 2019 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I came to a point right now, where I wish I wouldn’t know anything about it.
Now bear with me when I explain..

It’s not Astrology, more the way I incorporated it into my life. I like the psychological and analytical side of it, but I hate the fact that I’m constantly looking up every new love interest’s chart and already believe to see when this theoretical relationship might end, how and why.

I hate it that I look up transits for the year ahead ..

I’m at a point right now, where I’m realizing how much pressure I’m putting on myself and onto people I meet and how much of my life quality I compromise by ‘seeing’ what might come.

Predicting the future or trying to predict the future sucks big times. It all feels so fatalistic. It takes the joy out of living.

I’m sorry when I’m so negative right now.

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posted December 09, 2019 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I, very rarely, look at transits. Some are good and good things don't always happen and some are bad and maybe little annoying things happen. I can see how people go crazy with them and I could too if I really watched them all the time.

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posted December 09, 2019 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imagine the professional astrologer. I have to have limits to this kind of thing to keep things in proportion.

Underlying this, anna_bee, is the need to feel empowered from within so that your mind is not tipped over into obsession looking to be empowered by something (or someone) from outside you. Fear vs Love. Love yourself enough to take a break from it and not fret yourself over things that aren't happening and will probably never happen. Don't let astrology become a downer parent.

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posted December 09, 2019 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then, ditch it.

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ana_bee
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posted December 10, 2019 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Then, ditch it.

I tried

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Nadja
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posted December 11, 2019 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the exact reason I never really got into synastry or following my transits. And why I look mostly at the potential positives of any natal aspects. It's just not healthy for me to worry about the future, or to look to ask astrology about my relationships. And there is really no use being a negative nancy about things I can't change anyway.

Idk what advise to give you... other than just try to cultivate positivity, and live in the moment!

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posted December 11, 2019 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I treat looking at transits as if an Earthquake is going to happen and I have a 10 minute head start to prepare.

As per relationships go, you should never plan ahead or use astrology to dictate relationships..sometimes they pan out sometimes they don't.

People are not variables and math equations, people are way more unpredictable.

I'd just use it look at them as the potential compatibility between "two set things".

Lol, now someone use astrology to show the compatibility between Coke and Pepsi, there both two set things.

You should only use it as a potential...

There was a Leo sun female that I use to bump into all the time.

I was shocked when I looked into her chart we have moon trine moon, my mars sextiles her moon and my mars conjuncts her venus.

I really felt the moon trine moon...I'm a total stranger and someone she whould feel comfortable to tell me how her mood is.

Synastry wise it should be a go, but astrology also shows we are both heading in two different directions and were both in different phases in our lives...

So nothing panned out but the potential is still there.

It still haunts you knowing the what if...but again people have freewill so as much as astrology proves the compatibility of two set things, a persons freewill might ruin it.


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hypatia238
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posted December 14, 2019 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ana_bee:
I came to a point right now, where I wish I wouldn’t know anything about it.
Now bear with me when I explain..

It’s not Astrology, more the way I incorporated it into my life. I like the psychological and analytical side of it, but I hate the fact that I’m constantly looking up every new love interest’s chart and already believe to see when this theoretical relationship might end, how and why.

I hate it that I look up transits for the year ahead ..

I’m at a point right now, where I’m realizing how much pressure I’m putting on myself and onto people I meet and how much of my life quality I compromise by ‘seeing’ what might come.

Predicting the future or trying to predict the future sucks big times. It all feels so fatalistic. It takes the joy out of living.

I’m sorry when I’m so negative right now.


No need to apologize, it sounds like you are gaining valuable insight around how you want to integrate astrology in your life and how you don't want to integrate it into your life. Sounds like you are trying to figure out how to best utilize this tool in your life and you are figuring out how this tool can be a barrier at times instead of helpful when used a certain way.

This is important stuff to pay attention to.

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posted December 14, 2019 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadja:
This is the exact reason I never really got into synastry or following my transits. And why I look mostly at the potential positives of any natal aspects. It's just not healthy for me to worry about the future, or to look to ask astrology about my relationships. And there is really no use being a negative nancy about things I can't change anyway.

Idk what advise to give you... other than just try to cultivate positivity, and live in the moment!


I personally find transits usually very helpful bc they help me make sense of what is going on in my life currently and internal transformations I may be experiencing, it helps me gain a deeper insight into my current experience.

Now looking at transits so you can stress about the future is indeed not helpful I agree, we have to be careful not to fall into that trap. Like for example, Uranus transits have always been very positive for me but a lot of people who are scared of change get freaked out about uranus transits and think the worst will happen. In my opinion even when uranus transits present themselves in the form of a crisis they end up been a blessing in disguise.

"And there is really no use being a negative nancy about things I can't change anyway.

Idk what advise to give you... other than just try to cultivate positivity, and live in the moment!"

Beautiful.

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posted December 15, 2019 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Knowledge is power. So if you know what's coming you can take control of it, instead of the other way around (sometimes)

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hypatia238
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posted December 15, 2019 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
Knowledge is power. So if you know what's coming you can take control of it, instead of the other way around (sometimes)

Or at least mentally prepare for it which gives you some control of how you react and deal with situation...

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Kannon McAfee
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posted December 15, 2019 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the Bach flower remedies ...

Mimulus, the remedy for fear of known things: http://www.bachcentre.com/new/remedies/mimulus/

White Chestnut, for obsessions or unwanted thoughts: http://www.bachcentre.com/new/remedies/white-chestnut/

These are just two examples from the Bach remedy pages quick reference guide (linked below). Another flower essence may be more appropriate. Everything in life can be part of a balanced life, but sometimes we need help getting there. http://www.bachcentre.com/new/remedies/the-38-remedies/quick-reference-guide/

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posted December 16, 2019 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ana_bee, how's things with you?

I know what you mean. StoneMoon and I have discussed this.

I'm starting a dating-thing with someone right now and I have not looked at his chart. I was reflecting last how nicer it is to be not analysing everything: eg, thinking ohh we get on because of *this* aspect, and I can feel the tension of *this* aspect, etc.

It makes me more present, and also, I am on the same level as my date for a change. Because generally they are not into astrology

I'm looking forward to it unraveling without my mind analysing everything in a detached, lab-rat way. Things my aquarianness gets off on, but sometimes to the detriment of complicating the process.

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posted December 17, 2019 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is why I don't look at astrology until we're already dating and I know I really like this person, and even then I only check to know the good and bad of our relationship. No amount of negatives will make me give it up if my feeling is good. Similarly, no amount of positives will make me choose a guy if I don't feel special about him.

Transits can give you some kinda heads-up but IME some worked for me while others just passed me by like nothing. We've been experiencing tSaturn opposite our composite Sun/Venus for the last 1+yrs and interpretations said we're likely to break up. It did feel unstable and we broke, but we patched back and became stable 1mth later. Likely becos we've other good transits going on. tSaturn is still opposing our comp Venus but we're OK now... No intention to break up. So what I'm saying is transits may not all work out the way we think they will.

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posted December 23, 2019 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 23, 2019 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RohiniMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
I came to a point right now, where I wish I wouldn’t know anything about it.
Now bear with me when I explain..

It’s not Astrology, more the way I incorporated it into my life. I like the psychological and analytical side of it, but I hate the fact that I’m constantly looking up every new love interest’s chart and already believe to see when this theoretical relationship might end, how and why.

I hate it that I look up transits for the year ahead ..

I’m at a point right now, where I’m realizing how much pressure I’m putting on myself and onto people I meet and how much of my life quality I compromise by ‘seeing’ what might come.

Predicting the future or trying to predict the future sucks big times. It all feels so fatalistic. It takes the joy out of living.

I’m sorry when I’m so negative right now.




I totally get you.
Not all the time , but sometimes I get in a funk where the more research and knowledge I gain on astrology and see how true it is, the more depressed it can make me.

But like they say, knowledge is power so, all this research should help gain a better footing to do the right thing and get on the right path

But it is hard sometimes

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posted December 23, 2019 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gathering astrological knowledge is useless unless you can put it into life. And if its a thing that is like knowing that the volcano is gonna swallow you totally 5 seconds before the lava reaches you, then its useless, then its better to find other alternatives...

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posted December 29, 2019 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 02, 2020 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I treat looking at transits as if an Earthquake is going to happen and I have a 10 minute head start to prepare.

As per relationships go, you should never plan ahead or use astrology to dictate relationships..sometimes they pan out sometimes they don't.

People are not variables and math equations, people are way more unpredictable.

I'd just use it look at them as the potential compatibility between "two set things".

Lol, now someone use astrology to show the compatibility between Coke and Pepsi, there both two set things.

You should only use it as a potential...

There was a Leo sun female that I use to bump into all the time.

I was shocked when I looked into her chart we have moon trine moon, my mars sextiles her moon and my mars conjuncts her venus.

I really felt the moon trine moon...I'm a total stranger and someone she whould feel comfortable to tell me how her mood is.

Synastry wise it should be a go, but astrology also shows we are both heading in two different directions and were both in different phases in our lives...

So nothing panned out but the potential is still there.

It still haunts you knowing the what if...but again people have freewill so as much as astrology proves the compatibility of two set things, a persons freewill might ruin it.


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☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑


I agree with you to an extent, but I am of the belief that all of the MAJOR stuff in your life is fated, like who your parents are, your career, when your children are born, and your relationships. Free will is more prevalent in the little things, such as the foods you eat, how you dress, when you go to bed, when you brush your teeth, etc. This is because stuff like your career path and who you're attracted to, you'll feel a "pull" towards (and I'm sure your spirit guides at times work with the guides of the person you're meant to be with and the guides of your boss to try and make what's supposed to happen, happen), and while you CAN try to go against that, you won't feel content or satisfied.

Stuff like who your parents and children are, your relationships, and your career can play a VITAL part in the life lessons you need to learn, which is why fate is more prevalent in those areas rather than the regular mundane tasks. The transits are a pretty reliable "map" of when these fated events occur, especially if there are around three or more happening at the same time. The Solar Returns, Lunar Returns, and Venus Returns are examples of snapshots of transits that will be in effect the whole year or month, while your natal chart is the same thing, but for your entire life. And in the returns and your natal chart, transits to those charts are what activate events in your life. Just one transit isn't enough, it is generally around three or more.

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posted January 03, 2020 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can transcend astrology.

Absolutely.

Anyone who says otherwise just doesn't know how to do it.

When you realize the power is within and not in the stars, that is when you are able to transcend astrology.

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