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Dons2angelss
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posted December 13, 2019 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to think this was a scorpio thing as it's really manipulative yet subtle. Gas lighting is a form of emotional abuse and power struggles and I've seen it a lot in people. I have noticed a common theme in these people's charts is a harsh Neptune aspect. Not a 12H or pisces thing but specifically, Neptune itself in harsh aspects to a personal planet. Has anyone else noticed this or have any experience?

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Dumuzi
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posted December 13, 2019 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my ex was big on gaslighting she has scorpio mercury, venus, and pluto (venus and pluto are an exact conjunction both squaring her ascendant) and she has a moon (aries) square neptune aspect

my mother is as well and also has a scorpio stellium (rising, mercury, venus,and neptune) in placidus venus, neptune, and mercury are sitting in the 12th with both mercury and venus conjunct her neptune (her venus is loosely conjunct her ascendant the other planets aren't)

so they have both going on

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Dons2angelss
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posted December 13, 2019 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my ex was big on gaslighting she has scorpio mercury, venus, and pluto (venus and pluto are an exact conjunction both squaring her ascendant) and she has a moon (aries) square neptune aspect

my mother is as well and also has a scorpio stellium (rising, mercury, venus,and neptune) in placidus venus, neptune, and mercury are sitting in the 12th with both mercury and venus conjunct her neptune (her venus is loosely conjunct her ascendant the other planets aren't)

so they have both going on


I've noticed the conjuction with Neptune is the worst. I actually think they aren't even aware they're doing it as this aspect above all others has the native lacking self awareness and to bring it to their attention does no good. The square 2nd.

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hearttreasure
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posted December 13, 2019 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I see this harsh Neptune and Scorpio thing too.

My husband has Mars/Mercury Opposite Neptune + Moon conjunct Neptune. In the past he was the worst because he still got involved with his ex Moon/Mercury/Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio + Mars square Neptune behind my back, back and forth. Both did gas lighting and always acted like the victim, very good to convince you that they are the victim of you or the situation (making the soft tones of voices and "GOOD STORY" focusing on their sorrow or what they have sacrifice or what they have do good - to actually they want you to see the other person is BAD person or going some mental sickness or else and forget to actually what they do in the REAL LIFE or maybe they are actually the reason why the other person become the BAD person or look crazy), while the TRUTH is I WAS THEIR VICTIM OF THEIR LIES. So stupid.

After that experience, I always check both of the story (or I won't believe 100% of the story) if I ever heard one tell they do some good things but the other person do not. Why are you telling me the list of what you have done good/sacrifice? That always comes to mind if someone tells the story that too good. Both of my husband and his ex TOLD me the similar pattern, also one of my Mars square Neptune friend who just broke up with her bf. They all tried to make me see the other person is the problem not them with good sympathetic story, while probably the truth/ in real life is they can be one of the biggest factor why things can turn BAD.

My husband is so much healthier after he and his ex finally do not make any contact and I always say the truth whenever he tries to be a victim.

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