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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 29, 2019 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The human body our consciousness/soul connects to is an animal body with it's own individual temperament and inclinations potentially different than your own. Yes, you are currently hitching a ride in an animal that has it's own "programming" to some extent, and isn't some sort of complete blank "clay". It had it's own life and patterns, before your Soul started connecting to it, according to the rule sets of "evolution" and physical life patterns/rules.

Bodies are not chosen completely at random. There is planning that goes into picking a body. The more mature the Soul, often more the careful planning that goes on in setting up the life plan. Granted, immature Souls/consciousnesses often pick bodies based on well more shallow or less important things, such as attractiveness, probable status, etc.

The Ascendant Sign and it's related factors relates to your animal body and it's conditioning, as well as physical attributes/looks and basic vitality.

That's the Ascendant Sign. The Ascendant point, however, also represents the meeting point between Earth and Heaven. This is part of the reason why that Planets near same often become very highlighted in the life and psyche. Quite often (not always), the Planet closest to the Ascendant represents the nonphysical dimension we phased into this 3rd dimension/physical level we call the physical Earth.

But Earth/the physical is just but one little slice of the larger dimensional pie that has many other different levels, most of which we would perceive as and call "nonphysical". Heck, just considering this little system alone, there are 7 main dimensions, and each of these main dimensions has 7 sub dimensions. So within the "human related" system including what we call the "afterlife", we have 49 different levels.

A Planet symbolically represents one of those main dimensions and/or a sub dimension.

The nonphysical dimension you were focused in before you phased here and connected to one of these bodies obviously has a big impact on, and connection to, who and what you are on a deeper level as a Soul (which as a human, relates to your deeper character).

I like to use my partner as an example, since she has pretty strong Aquarius in her chart, but Venus is the planet closest to her Ascendant and in her 1st House. I like the example because in some ways, these are rather different symbols. While she definitely has some stereotypical Aquarian traits, she is at her core and in a very deep and consistent sense, highly attuned to what Venus symbolizes and represents.

In other words, her Soul entered into this physical Earth dimension (3rd) from the nonphysical dimension that Venus connects to and symbolizes in a Jungian synchronicity like way. What is Venus symbolically? As to what a human mind can comprehend, it's the 4th dimension, and can be understood as like a higher octave of the Earth, but without the dense physical aspect.

It's like everything positive about humans and earth, without any of the ego baggage, pain, and struggle. Love and harmony are strong "there", but it's still more of a love that is attuned to the harmony and attraction of "like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like" and hasn't become universalized and more cosmic yet (this starts to occur in the Jupiter and Neptune levels more so).

Granted, when our Soul is rolled together by our Spirit self, there is a mix/blending of many different levels and energies. To be sure, while she is predominantly attuned to Venus--Jupiter, Sun, Uranus, Aquarius, Capricorn, Pisces, and Aries are all also factors as outlining/reflecting/indicating these different levels and energies symbolically within her.

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posted December 29, 2019 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand this on a level that can not be explained in words, but I'll try. I know the "avatar" effect very well and have become so used to it that posts like this zap me back to my childhood where I was two different "people". When I was very young, maybe 4 or 5, and everyone else had fallen asleep and it was completely quiet, I would repeat to myself "who am I?" until I wasn't a child anymore. I was my spirit and this "isn't real". I distinctly remember knowing I was not this body on Earth and I literally had all of the answers to the universe. I knew all of the things.
Have you ever seen divergent? It's exactly how Triss was when she was in a simulation, she knew it wasn't real.

Anyway, my nn is exactly on my gemini ascendant with chiron 4 degrees away in the 12H, followed by my Taurus sun. I definitely feel the chiron energy so close to my ascendant and nn.

Thank you for this post.

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posted December 30, 2019 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey there Dons (hope you don't mind me calling you that?), thank you for chiming in and sharing your interesting childhood experience.

Yeah, I think a percentage of us have some experiences during younger childhood where we became aware of (and/or tapped into) the more real and eternal us vs the temporary, more earthly connected us, but only a relative few actually remember these into adulthood, so that's cool that you can remember.

When I was about 5, apparently I went up to my Mom and told her in a rather matter of fact and adult kind of way, "Mom, we need to leave dad." At the time, my father was in a raging alcoholic cycle, and apparently my Soul or Spirit level of self, overshadowed my personality level temporarily, to get that needed message through. It's one thing to have these thoughts yourself, but another thing when your 5 year old is telling you this point blank. But I don't remember saying/doing this.

I do vaguely remember the hyper empathy that I have talked about, and talking with my father (besides being an alcoholic, also very deeply spiritual, and talented musician type) about some of these issues relating to universal compassion and love.

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posted December 30, 2019 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting... thanks!

Hitchhiking in my body suit
Mine ended up being a bit sensory-sensitive.

We meet all points in The Heart?

Galactic.. wow about how mature you were in protecting your mom about your dad. Protector. Wise old soul.

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posted December 30, 2019 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can relate to your story. My mom always told me I was born an adult and would council her lol.
I think that's why I love astrology so much. Learning about my own chart was like having that ah ha moment. The deeper I go, the more I recognize myself in the universe and that's priceless to me.

I I've always had an excellent long term memory. My first memory is from before I could walk. I think I've asked about it in a post before actually but no one believes me except my family, only because they were there. It's most likely my 2nd and 3H in cancer with my moon in the 6H conjunct Pluto opposite mercury in Aries. That 3 way connected to those houses makes for a pretty good memory.

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posted December 30, 2019 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You're welcome Mirage.

The heart, or rather 4th center/thymus gland is the balancing point and where "heaven" and earth meet. Venus primarily connects to this center/level.

The physical heart is a bit different, and has a more Solar connection and attunement. There is an interesting connection and process that can happen between the thymus, the heart (with it's powerful magnetic field), and the pituitary/7th center.

A sort of golden triangle can be formed between these 3 different centers/points, if one starts to imbue the thymus/4th center with a more universal love attunement. But it takes a consistent habit of choice and attunement.

It's easier for those that natally, have a strong connection and attunement to Venus that is also connected to more Universal oriented symbols (such as Neptune, Jupiter, Pisces, Aquarius). As well as a strong attunement to the Sun (NOT Leo, but the Sun).

Thank you for the kind words/sentiment.

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posted December 30, 2019 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm not surprised by that Dons, from what you have so far shared in general. You and your chart is a good example of how it's important to look past signs and look at deeper levels of the chart to really get a handle on a person in relation to their chart.

Cause, if I focused on all that Taurus, Gemini, and Libra in particular in your chart, one wouldn't see the deeply spiritual and psychic side of you so much. But when one factors in highlighted Planets, houses, and in combo with the Sadge South Node, a more rich and complex picture emerges.

Yeah, one of the reasons why I like astrology, is because it is a constant and powerful (hard to deny) reminder of the Oneness/interconnection of the Whole. Sometimes when you're living in this world, which seems so focused on separation, having these reminders is nice (and helpful). Brings us back to a very important, core truth, and that which the power of Love is based on.

As to memory, yes, the Moon is very connected to memory in a lot of ways (not just Mercury and the intellect side of the mind). People that can or do attach a lot of emotion to memories can remember things more strongly. In a sense, there is more "incentive" to remember when emotion is involved.

Anyways, I tend to believe you about that experience though it's a bit unusual.

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posted October 29, 2020 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 29, 2020 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dons2angelss,
  I have Divergent and yet to watch it! Have you studiespd your heliocentric and your 24d Harmonic?
I find it fascinating you've recall of self before flesh.

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GalacticCoreExplosion,
  Are any of your personal  energies near the GC?

I'm beyond words with your wisdom. I have read some of the  'body/spirit' ..
 does Hyperborea exist within the "49 different levels"? Truly I'm very tired but with good rest I may return. Thank you so much for sharing!

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posted October 29, 2020 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Moon Mystic. Like with Stars, you can't use conventional/traditional aspects with the Galactic Core because it doesn't align with the Sun's ecliptic plane like the Planets more or less do (Pluto is sometimes noticeably off alignment at times).

The traditional/conventional aspects we use with the Planets is basically based on more of a 2d, flat like plane, rather than 3D all encompassing perspective. If a Star or point is way, way off that "line" or "disk", you have to use Parans.

I'm not sure if any of my points line up in a Paran type way with our Galactic Core. I don't have any fancy programs that can calculate that in full. Not sure if it means anything or not, but my Vertex is conjunct the G.C.

Years ago, someone ran my birth info through Solar Fire, and I got a list of Paran aspects with most commonly used Stars, and there was some kind of connection between my IC/Nadir and Arcturus. My Spirit has had a few Soul selves, including myself, phase to the energetic system that the Star Arcturus correlates to.

Edgar Cayce called Arcturus the "doorway" into "greater systems". Basically if a Soul attunes to a certain level of pure, universal Love consciousness while in this system, at some point, usually after a human experience, they become aware of the choice to move on to more expanded, faster vibratory systems than this one, to become what some might call an "ET". But, some of these systems of energies do not have a physical body and world correlation, while others (many) do. Hence the term is more broad and nuanced than most tend to use it.

The Arcturus level Cayce's guidance references to itself is completely nonphysical and there are no bodies or "species" as such. It's just a bunch of very Love attuned, Guide type Souls from various different systems hanging out and communing with each other and with various other systems and worlds.

Many of these are the types that can manifest a body if interacting with a physical world, and they temporarily need a body to be perceived more clearly.

If you are into the Cayce work at all, you may find this interesting. Edgar was told one of his Soul selves, Ra Ta, went to the Arcturus system after his earth life. Edgar had dreams about being there with Lot during Abraham and Melchizedek's time, and trying to warn Lot that destruction was coming.

When Edgar asked his guidance if he was incarnated then, he was cryptically told "he was one sent to warn Lot". If you read the biblical account, you will note that it talks about 3 "men" who were sent by the "Lord" (i.e. Melchizedek aka the Christ Spirit). It at times refers to them as men, and at other times as "messengers" (which sometimes gets translated to "angels"), and these figures have supernatural powers. For example, a band of hooligans tries to take one of these folks and have their way with him, and this figure temporarily blinds them without doing anything physical to them, so that he can get away.

Anyways, what I am saying is that this was likely Ra Ta coming from the Arcturus level/system, and either he or Melchizedek manifested a temporary human like form for him to interact with humans.

These things may seem unusual or miraculous, but are not really in the grand scheme of things. Most Souls will eventually develop to be able to do these things consciously and much more. We were made in the image of our Source, and that Source is pure creative energy.

Most ET groups have abilities that most humans would be amazed at, and yet, these are all natural abilities to the Soul and Spirit. Humans are just particularly ignorant and limited for now. That shall be changing though.

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posted October 29, 2020 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To answer your other question, I don't consciously know the name/term Hypoborea. I assume it's an asteroid? I haven't paid much attention to asteroids tbh. I've focused on mastering charts in relation to major planets (including Pluto).

It could correlate with one of the sub dimensions, but I don't know. A good question to ask your guidance though.

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posted October 29, 2020 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read through, as tired as my eyes now are, certainly I'll need to return to read again.

I can say that I have lightly studied Edgar Cayce. I had a paperback around here that his son wrote. A bit of my exposure to him was from our old fashioned library.


Thank you again for bringing these wonderfully wtitten threads!
(from the typo queen. lol)


some synchronicity from your topic, Sonia Barrett on youtube is speaking re this subject. Mentioning "death codes" in the human bodies.

I'm going to leave you this. http://www.awarenessofnothing.com/the-seven-root-races-of-mankind.html It was the most condensed reading of the links offered and yet most informative with the description of the beings from there.

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posted October 29, 2020 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the link MysticMoon. There is some that I agree with there, and some that I don't. In the further past I had dabbled in Theosophy and Bailey's Esoteric teachings. I have looked at a great many different belief systems, and have found both truth and distortion in all of them.

My internal guidance, with a few outer exceptions (Cayce, Monroe, McKnight, Moen, etc), has directed me primarily inward to direct communication with them.

The thing is, a conscious, waking person can channel through information only as clearly as they are clear and resonant with Source. If there are any blocks, if there is any internal distortions due to ego and/or limited beliefs, etc, then this creates distortion in their perception and translation of information received from the nonphysical.

A truly and fully clear channel is rare indeed--like a needle in a haystack. Edgar Cayce would have sucked as a channel if he had tried to do so more consciously and with his personality level involved. His own guidance outlined that Cayce had to go so deep and so submerge his conscious mind/personality level, to be able to do what he did, because he lacked the proper attunement and balance otherwise.

He was basically in a REM, deep Theta brainwave state and was unconscious to the physical, when he gave his readings. But it was that lack of conscious mind and personality ego level interference that allowed him to access such a wide range of data in a very unusually accurate and specific manner.

Think of the body and the conscious mind/personality level as sort of a dark and distorted filter that the Light of the Soul and Spirit has to shine through in order to express in the physical. That filter colors everything with it's darkness and distortion. Cleaning up that filter is something that takes a lot of time, focus, and effort, and it's not possible to get it completely clear.

Hence, good idea to have a healthy amount of skepticism of various psychic and spiritual sources and realize that invariably they contain distortions along with truth. Ultimately, it is preferable to work on self and focus most on going deeply within and connecting to the Source and Expanded Guidance levels directly. There will be still be some distortion (unless one is near full/true enLigthenment), but at least it will be your distortion and not anothers.

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posted October 29, 2020 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an interesting read. I personally have quite a bit of Aquarius myself (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Uranus, Neptune, and SN all in Aquarius) and definitely have some Aquarian qualities as being mentally active and very good with computers and technology. I could never resonate with being emotionally detached though. I have an exact Mars-ASC conjunction at 0 degrees Scorpio which I believe also plays a role.

I've been trying to gain spritual insight into where I have come from and where I need to be going to no avail. I do know that according to a psychic medium I had gotten a reading from, I had lived a past life in which I was a roman soldier who died in battle, which does fit the Mars archetype. My mom had told me that when I was a baby I would talk and laugh with people they couldn't see. I would like to understand how this all ties together.

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posted October 29, 2020 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are couple possibilities that I can see Electro. Either you are a rare, direct reincarnation of that Soul who lived the Roman solidier life, or that your Expanded/Higher/Spirit self when it created your Soul by rolling together energies, memories, patterns, etc from various other Souls and lifetimes within your Spirit injected that life's energies strongly into your Soul.

Either way, Mars is particularly highlighted in your chart. The Mars nonphysical dimension, not surprisingly is one of strife, competition, etc. It's like the Earth on roids, or sort of a Mad Max like realm. The Souls in this level often don't know they are in the nonphysical and separated from their physical body, and they continue their fights and fighting here thinking they are still human. Imagine spending a few centuries thinking you are a soldier that has to fight the other side and win. Eventually the Soul becomes bored or dissatisfied with the conditions, and maybe reaches out to a higher power or the like and asks for help. Then a helper, retrieval Soul will come in there and help move them out.

It's pretty silly that individuals get stuck in these levels, but such is the human ego when mixed with strong conditioning, anger, pride, and a sense of separation. When a Soul comes from that dimension strong in their subconscious memory into the Earth, there is often a tendency to get frustrated and intolerant with others rather easily, to get angry easily, to have a certain amount of pride and ego, to have an intense, passionate feeling nature, to be courageous, to be competitive, to be very active, etc.

Your Higher self is trying to pull you into a more Aquarian direction i.e. that of spiritual attunement, group harmony and working together for the greater good. The more you can channel that intense Mars energy and activeness towards those areas and pursuits, the more you will grow in this life, so that by the time you separate from the body, you may phase to the more expanded, fast vibratory levels as symbolized by Venus, Uranus, Neptune, Jupiter, and/or even Sun.

We ALL have been at Mars, we all have been at Saturn, at Pluto, at Moon. In a larger, Spirit sense, all or almost all of us have also been at Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and/or Sun before at various different times.

We are here to integrate, balance, and merge them all together to unveil the White/Clear Light, which is our true, original nature. Just as when you pass physical light through a prism, it refracts into the 6 main colors, well the prism in this analogy is like the ego and a sense of separateness. We have to take each of those individual colors and blend them back together to get back to the clear light. We do this through living, choosing, opening up to a divine, Source like Love that is very universal in nature. When one starts to sincerely feel and act with Love towards everyone they meet, then they are getting close to that White/Clear Light unveiling i.e. passing that refracted colored light back through a prism of Love.

As each color is part of the clear light, and each is important, so is each Planet and major nonphysical dimension important and crucial in all this.

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