posted January 01, 2020 02:25 PM            

Assuming a transit to the progressed chart does matter considering Liz Greene’s “Yearly Forecast Report” points the aspect out.

Turns out transit Pluto will begin to conjunct my prog. Descendant end of March 2020 until beginning of February 2025

Pluto’s been transiting my natal 7th House since ~2010. Just as Pluto moves onto my natal 8th, it simultaneously reenters my progressed 7th.

Those who have an idea or personal experience of the difference between consecutive transit, mind sharing a bit of guidance?

My Moon is at Capricorn 29°41'50" in the 8th House so not sure what more this blueprint has plans to plutonize. Silver lining is I’ve nothing left to lose except my health god-forbid

posted January 01, 2020 07:27 PM            

I can't comment on progressed Pluto conjunct natal Dsc because I never had that. The only similarity we have is that I'm going through Pluto progression as well but for me it's progressed Asc conjunct natal Pluto (5 minutes separating now so pretty active still). For me this means being very intense and emotional about life in general, everything bad that happens is felt so much more intensely. It's hard. Maybe because it's Asc that's involved for me, with Pluto on your Dsc you will feel as intense but specifically concerning love life/partners/enemies/coleagues. A generally dificcult time to relate to people, one-on-one. What's important I guess is that it will come from within you (the reason), it's you, not them. But then I'm also thinking about situations where it's for example the worst (abusive relationships), where you are the victim of the abuse. The fault is always with the abuser but the victim is the one who draws that abuser. So again, it's so important to dig deep within yourself.

posted January 02, 2020 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Have you checked transits and solar return, or solaer arc directions if you know your exact time of birth? Is there something there repeating this Pluto theme?

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Good question.. I recently picked up Celeste Teals' book, Identifying Planetary Triggers, and was trying to make out which rule-of-three this theme represents but the formula sorta eludes me with so much going on. (I have my exact birth time)

The repeating patterns as of now involve Pluto/Saturn-Moon, Jupiter-Juno, angle activity

Red symbols are transiting planets, Green symbols are progressed or SA in second chart
(Excuse all the asteroids, its an automatic setting.)

I don't know where I'll be for my upcoming solar return as I might fly abroad at any moment, but this was this past year

The Sun transits the SR Venus/Saturn/Pluto/SN this month

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
That means you get divorced or meet someone new.

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Already 'divorced', in 2018 (coinciding with the July 2018 eclipse). Between Jupiter-Juno, and the solar eclipse on my DC, seems like this is prime time for a supposed grand-new relationship. We shall see.. but I'm genuinely not looking—would have to collide right into me and then some.

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
The only similarity we have is that I'm going through Pluto progression as well but for me it's progressed Asc conjunct natal Pluto (5 minutes separating now so pretty active still). For me this means being very intense and emotional about life in general, everything bad that happens is felt so much more intensely. It's hard

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My ex was having your side of the coin as we split. Looking at his progressions and transits, its (still) all Pluto-ASC. Progressed AC conjunct natal Pluto. Fast forward to now, Progressed AC conjunct Progressed Pluto. Progressed Moon joining to conjunct this trifecta. Tr. Pluto square Natal AC. His rule-of-three is easier to isolate.

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
What's important I guess is that it will come from within you (the reason), it's you, not them. But then I'm also thinking about situations where it's for example the worst (abusive relationships), where you are the victim of the abuse. The fault is always with the abuser but the victim is the one who draws that abuser. So again, it's so important to dig deep within yourself.

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When Pluto first conjunct my DC in 2010, I moved alone cross country to attend university at seventeen years old. Over the years, I've been unwittingly attracting power-hungry, needy or narcissist-types between friends or lovers because of my own self-love (codependency) issues or misdirection, which was ultimately healing after enough betrayal or self-sabatoge by unconscious behavior. Lesson learned. Which is why I'm curious of the progressed 7th House repetition. Does Pluto offer any blessings or is the planet just there for it's own glory?

I read once that tr Pluto conjunct natal Moon can be a time of someone gaining a lot of recognition (in affect, a loss of privacy). I don't have plans to be 'famous' but I thought this was interesting or even potentially something there to work with.

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Pluto conj Des might have options when you have power in relationships. It doesn't sound bad [...] I'm thinking avoiding everybody might be better.

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posted January 03, 2020 05:34 PM            

How's the book then (Identifying Planetary Triggers)? I need something like that too.

In transits, the forst thing that I notice is tr. Neptune will soon conjunct your natal Mercury. I notice this because I have just came out of similar transit and for me it was bad, only I had a square. Really got burned under this one, I have been lied to over a period of years and didn't see it happening.. And I'm simply interpreting as 3-12 link, 3 (Mercury, mind), 12 (Neptune, deception). If you go deeper, getting rulers involved too then you might treat it also as 12-4, Mercury rules your 4th house.

Pluto will take a loong time to get to your Moon so maybe don't worry about that one yet.. BUT transiting Pluto IF it only just entered your natal 8th house is worrying..and Saturn is there too (the infamous Pluto Saturn conjunction!). I can't tell because it doesn't show degrees, check the degree for 8th house cusp. Some bad 8 house things can happen just when it enters it (Saturn or Pluto or both). Examples from my life: Uranus just entered my 8th - cat died (we had him for 15 years , Saturn entered my 6th - sudden health problems I didn't have before.

Jupiter transiting your 7th yaaayyy, makes me happy just seeing that alone.

Saturn will conjunct Moon..yeah..I see what you mean by Saturn focus, especially after you've already gone through Saturn-Mars opposition. Paired with Saturn square Venus. How was it for you??

In progressions. Moon progressing through natal 8th. That's confirming Pluto theme further. Tough. My Moon will soon leave my 8th, hang in there. Yours will move into 9th too eventually.

In solar arcs Pluto might be making aspects too, it looks like it's around 20 something degrees? Working orbs here (solar arcs) are very tight, under 1 degree. Saturn Mercury looks like conjunction.. Saturn is just super important everywhere you look because it's the ruler of your 8th. So there's overall a lot of Pluto in all these forecasting methods. Stay strong! And Jupiter through your 7th will help you along

For solar return better cast the chart for the place you live permanently, that's more likely to work.

"When Pluto first conjunct my DC in 2010, I moved alone cross country to attend university at seventeen years old. Over the years, I've been unwittingly attracting power-hungry, needy or narcissist-types between friends or lovers because of my own self-love (codependency) issues or misdirection, which was ultimately healing after enough (self-)betrayal by unconscious behavior. Lesson learned."

I feel for you and can totally relate because I've just Completely removed a narcissist from my life after 11 years. Time for healing and finally time for me.