posted January 22, 2020 09:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
I have the astrology planet (Uranus) on MC and Jupiter on IC. ... When Pluto made its first direct-retrograde-direct pass of my IC, I joined an astrology forum for the first time; received no response whatsoever from my attempts to interact with that community and gave up trying as/when Pluto moved beyond-orb of my IC degree. ... So, the first 3 passes of that transit had been non-eventful for me.

However, curiosity took me back onto that site as/when the next Pluto retrograde-direct pass crossed my IC (around 3 months later). And, having learned the unwritten rules of forum etiquette from my previous misadventures, this time the community did decide to interact with me - which has resulted in my being a member an astrology forum for some 11 years now, during which I have learned a great deal. ... So, the 4th and 5th passes of that transit turned out to be very eventful for me.

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posted January 22, 2020 12:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Nadja:
Oh, Pluto on the IC certainly had an effect. It coincided with Saturn conjunct natal Pluto too for added impact. It was a traumatic time, and probably the only time I've ever felt a dramatic effect from any transit. I won't go into details but it was definitely a time of endings, a final loss of innocence, but also of beginnings... gaining independence and maturity.

It's ever so long ago now though.

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You dont need to go into details but thanks for sharing what you feel comfortable sharing with us.

If you did feel an impact from when it was conjuncting your IC haven't you felt you have been doing a lot of reflecting related to that time of your life? I feel pluto transits also are about gaining insight. I feel a big part of Pluto transits and the things that happen during those transits is to facilitate you gaining insight, self-awareness and personal growth.

posted January 22, 2020 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

You dont need to go into details but thanks for sharing what you feel comfortable sharing with us.

If you did feel an impact from when it was conjuncting your IC haven't you felt you have been doing a lot of reflecting related to that time of your life? I feel pluto transits also are about gaining insight. I feel a big part of Pluto transits and the things that happen during those transits is to facilitate you gaining insight, self-awareness and personal growth.

I also have noticed that when pluto is in the middle of the house it can feel like nothing is going on in a sense except for a lot of reflecting but then towards the end, all that reflecting comes to live and leads to transformation.

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posted January 22, 2020 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Nadja:
As a rule I don't reflect much on what's happened in the past. There was a choice that had to be made, and there was a temporary loss of an important relationship. But after that normal life resumed and things resettled into slightly changed but still recognizable patterns. It did bring to light what I find most important in life, and teach some lessons about how to make hard choices... but that's about it really. It was difficult while it was happening and it has left some permanent changes in my life, but overall it's not something I think about these days. And it's not something that has left lingering scars or really changed anything about me as a person.

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posted January 22, 2020 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I dont think the intention of pluto is to leave lingering scars, that is not the goal, the goal is transformation and self-mastery but maybe you are enlightened and don't need to do much work on yourself and are here to help everyone else only so pluto transits don't impact you much, just minimally. As for me each transit through the house has definitely impacted me and led to a lot of change and growth.

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posted January 22, 2020 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Nadja:
I think that every lesson learned and transformation completed is a scar in a way, in that it's a permanent change to your person. Some are minor, some are major. Generally it's been very minor for me. Many outer planet transits have passed without any impact at all, and I remain fundamentally unchanged.

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Is your strongest element FIXED according to the Pullen report on astro.com?

My strongest element is mutable so maybe that also plays into it...

"I think that every lesson learned and transformation completed is a scar in a way, in that it's a permanent change to your person."

posted January 22, 2020 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
I have the astrology planet (Uranus) on MC and Jupiter on IC. ... When Pluto made its first direct-retrograde-direct pass of my IC, I joined an astrology forum for the first time; received no response whatsoever from my attempts to interact with that community and gave up trying as/when Pluto moved beyond-orb of my IC degree. ... So, the first 3 passes of that transit had been non-eventful for me.

However, curiosity took me back onto that site as/when the next Pluto retrograde-direct pass crossed my IC (around 3 months later). And, having learned the unwritten rules of forum etiquette from my previous misadventures, this time the community did decide to interact with me - which has resulted in my being a member an astrology forum for some 11 years now, during which I have learned a great deal. ... So, the 4th and 5th passes of that transit turned out to be very eventful for me.

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posted January 22, 2020 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Is your strongest element FIXED according to the Pullen report on astro.com?

My strongest element is mutable so maybe that also plays into it...

"I think that every lesson learned and transformation completed is a scar in a way, in that it's a permanent change to your person."

I like how you put it.

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Thank you.

posted January 22, 2020 05:51 PM            

A group of us temps, just found out today that we got laid off because of lack of work (from feast to famine in a short period too--a little while ago I was working a lot of overtime).

posted January 22, 2020 07:04 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:

But I intuitively suspect and hope that it's a case of when one door closes, another one opens. And which might be revealed or develop as T. Cap Jupiter starts to get closer to the 6th House cusp, and might come to full fruition as it starts to trine Virgo Saturn (ruler of the 6th) in the 2nd.

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I bet it will lead to a new a door opening, I am with you on that hunch! It will work out and be a blessing in disguise. I bet a better door will open

posted January 22, 2020 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
It’s in my 3rd, like 4 degrees away from my I.C. opposite my Venus too lol.
Lots of reflecting, especially on how my insecurities have affected my relationships my whole life. A time to really heal these aspects in order to have healthy relationships with others. Bringing up issues of control etc. I hope this is the extent to what will happen. Saturn or Pluto on angles freaks me TF out!

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posted January 23, 2020 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Check my other pluto through the houses thread. I and someone else both got into astrology and the occult while pluto was transiting our 12H.

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posted January 23, 2020 10:56 AM            

Sat transiting Cap coincided with when I started studying for my degree.Saturn conj Mc is when I finished.

Pluto transiting Cap coincided with when I finished my last degree. Pluto conj Mc is when I finished with the 2nd qualification.

In whole sign, both are in the 10th. In placidus, both just started in the 10th when touching the Mc this year 2020.

I am expecting career expansion with Pluto here. And even as it moves to Aquarius, it can suggest powerful allies in friends or larger society I guess.

posted January 23, 2020 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by manymoones:
Interesting! I will check it out. But thought I should add while Pluto has been in my 12th for quite some time now I, too, also got into astrology and esoteric studies... pretty cool

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posted January 23, 2020 04:36 PM            

Then I thought to check the transits around a significant event in both our childhoods, one that likely shaped us quite a lot. Found that Chiron was conjunct Pluto in the heavens at that particular point. On my brother's Ascendant and square my Moon. Maybe we did enough Pluto work at that point that Pluto doesn't bother us too much anymore? Idk if that's possible, but it's a thought...

posted January 23, 2020 05:19 PM            

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Maybe we did enough Pluto work at that point that Pluto doesn't bother us too much anymore?

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oh boy, i kept thinking like this because I had a Pluto conjuction ASC and opposing Moon several years before my Saturn Return and then my Saturn Return was a crash accident, couldnt walk for months after a long and tiring surgery.

posted January 24, 2020 08:43 PM            

As Saturn went over my 12H cusp, I left a job after 7 and a half years, and plunged into a huge depression.

Intriguingly, this has started a new faith journey for me - it's challenging because my status as a single mum who's never been married is a direct affront to the teachings of the church, so I'm having to look inside to reconcile my feelings about my past choices. Am I lovable and forgivable?

At the same time I'm looking at using my astrology skills and potentially putting the things I've learned over decades into a format that less experienced people can use. If it works, it could even bring in some money.

It's a challenging time. Saturn is certainly cooking up an interesting new identity for me at the moment!

posted January 24, 2020 09:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
I have the astrology planet (Uranus) on MC and Jupiter on IC. ... When Pluto made its first direct-retrograde-direct pass of my IC, I joined an astrology forum for the first time; received no response whatsoever from my attempts to interact with that community and gave up trying as/when Pluto moved beyond-orb of my IC degree. ... So, the first 3 passes of that transit had been non-eventful for me.

However, curiosity took me back onto that site as/when the next Pluto retrograde-direct pass crossed my IC (around 3 months later). And, having learned the unwritten rules of forum etiquette from my previous misadventures, this time the community did decide to interact with me - which has resulted in my being a member an astrology forum for some 11 years now, during which I have learned a great deal. ... So, the 4th and 5th passes of that transit turned out to be very eventful for me.

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Graham, I feel like this is what I'm experiencing right now. It's definitely a lesson, and an enriching one! Gotta start somewhere, right? Thanks for sharing.

posted January 24, 2020 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
Graham, I feel like this is what I'm experiencing right now. It's definitely a lesson, and an enriching one! Gotta start somewhere, right? Thanks for sharing.

This transit is definitely teaching me to be more patient with my learning process and forgive myself and let go of past mistakes.
After all, we are here to experience and it feels like Saturn-Pluto are the tough but caring elders guiding us through our individual processes.

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posted January 24, 2020 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That is great to hear...what house is your Pluto-Saturn transit on right now?

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posted January 24, 2020 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by cthonicstar:
3rd House, which I feel like explains a lot lol.

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I did not want to assume and be wrong. Thanks for replying.

Beautiful: "This transit is definitely teaching me to be more patient with my learning process and forgive myself and let go of past mistakes."