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ScorpieScorp
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posted January 19, 2020 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I see on some sites they ask you to put in your time zone instead of calculating it for you.

If you are born in Nov, do you check off Daylight Savings Time?

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Graham
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posted January 19, 2020 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Hi,

I see on some sites they ask you to put in your time zone instead of calculating it for you.

If you are born in Nov, do you check off Daylight Savings Time?



The site most likely to calculate time zone and daylight savings correctly is astro.com ... So, first draw your chart there - then ensure that the Universal Time calculated for that chart agrees with the Universal Time calculated by any other site you use.

That may or may require you to check off Daylight Savings at one site but not at another. ... It all depends upon whether or not the site you are using has made the same effort as Astro.com to "do the job correctly" (and many do not).

[The trick is to know the Ascendant degree of your Astro.com natal chart, and adjust the time data of the other site until it produces the same Ascendant degree.]

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ScorpieScorp
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posted January 19, 2020 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Graham!

I'm actually trying to use a Chinese site...so won't be able to check the ASC degree, but I'll look to find the Universal Time.

This is the site if curious:
https://fate.windada.com/cgi-bin/fate_en

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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 19, 2020 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Hi,

I see on some sites they ask you to put in your time zone instead of calculating it for you.

If you are born in Nov, do you check off Daylight Savings Time?


That's not a chart casting site you want to use. Just as any astrologer casting charts should have the proper time zone information, so any chart casting site should as well.

The variations on when/where summer/daylight time is to be applied change by place and year. A good site that keeps track of this history so you can know the exact time change for your area and date of birth:
http://www.timeanddate.com

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Graham
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posted January 20, 2020 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
That's not a chart casting site you want to use. Just as any astrologer casting charts should have the proper time zone information, so any chart casting site should as well.

The variations on when/where summer/daylight time is to be applied change by place and year. A good site that keeps track of this history so you can know the exact time change for your area and date of birth:
http://www.timeanddate.com




To avoid upsetting the staff at Astrodienst, Kannon (and to prevent doubt/confusion by anyone reading your above comment) ... please name/specify which chart casting site you are referring to in the first sentence of your above quoted comment.

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mirage29
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posted January 20, 2020 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree with Graham.
Astrodienst is a really superb website.
Alois and his team work hard.
- http://www.astro.com/contact/contact_about_e.htm?nhor=427832&nho2=3890944
- http://www.astro.com/people/treindl_e.htm?nhor=427832&nho2=3890944

Maybe Kannon was referring to the Chinese website.


From what Kannon suggested.
Here's a more-specific and direct page to go to for information about YOUR DST/EST at 'time and date' website.
- http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/2020.html

If you scroll down, and look to the right on the side bar, you'll find a heading where you can select information for the year you were born.

...
By the time the Sun had arrived in your degree around 15+ Scorpio, it had changed back to Fall Time, Standard Time, around one week beforehand.

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Oct 30, 1977 - Daylight Saving Time Ended
When local daylight time was about to reach
Sunday, October 30, 1977, 2:00:00 am clocks were turned backward 1 hour to
Sunday, October 30, 1977, 1:00:00 am local standard time instead.


THIS YEAR 2020
Nov 1, 2020 - Daylight Saving Time Ends
When local daylight time is about to reach
Sunday, November 1, 2020, 2:00:00 am clocks are turned backward 1 hour to
Sunday, November 1, 2020, 1:00:00 am local standard time instead.

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Please remember to remove the 's' from http to energize any links you leave at LL. We'll be able to 'click' the link from your post.

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ScorpieScorp
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posted January 20, 2020 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
[b] That's not a chart casting site you want to use. Just as any astrologer casting charts should have the proper time zone information, so any chart casting site should as well.

The variations on when/where summer/daylight time is to be applied change by place and year. A good site that keeps track of this history so you can know the exact time change for your area and date of birth:
http://www.timeanddate.com




To avoid upsetting the staff at Astrodienst, Kannon (and to prevent doubt/confusion by anyone reading your above comment) ... please name/specify which chart casting site you are referring to in the first sentence of your above quoted comment.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Hi, Kannon was referring to the website I was using that needed to know if DST:
http://fate.windada.com/cgi-bin/fate_en

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ScorpieScorp
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posted January 20, 2020 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
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quote

Oct 30, 1977 - Daylight Saving Time Ended
When local daylight time was about to reach
Sunday, October 30, 1977, 2:00:00 am clocks were turned backward 1 hour to
Sunday, October 30, 1977, 1:00:00 am local standard time instead.


THIS YEAR 2020
Nov 1, 2020 - Daylight Saving Time Ends
When local daylight time is about to reach
Sunday, November 1, 2020, 2:00:00 am clocks are turned backward 1 hour to
Sunday, November 1, 2020, 1:00:00 am local standard time instead.
[/B]


So would this mean if you were born after 10/30/77 you wouldn't need to worry about DST? Only the months between when DST started through 10/30 would need to worry about clicking DST?

What if you were born in 1970, would you still need to do it? What years need DST?

The reason I am using this website is because so far it's the only site I can read in English for Chinese Purple Star Astrology...if you know of a better, please share!


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Graham
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posted January 20, 2020 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Hi, Kannon was referring to the website I was using that needed to know if DST:
http://fate.windada.com/cgi-bin/fate_en


I know he was ... but those who are new to astrology (or/and are not familiar with the excellent tools provided freely by Astrodienst) may not realise that.

However ... 3 of us have now made it clear that the Astro.com site is ok ... so, "job done".

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mirage29
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posted January 20, 2020 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Scorpie!

For the year "1977" .. your answer is 'yes'.
You were born in November, in Standard Time.
You do not have to check the DST box.
The time change occurred October 30, 2am/1am.

For the year "1970" .. go to the website url I left you, under the " " --
Follow the directions (go to right of website page, and scroll down. Sidebar Headings. You should find the place to chose a different year.

If you can read what I've been typing, then you shouldn't really have a problem finding the DATE and time it will give you.

Let us know how it went?

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Randall
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posted January 25, 2020 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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