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Brenda_S
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posted January 24, 2020 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's this guy I recently met... He has Saturn aspecting all his personal planets (except Mercury). Square Venus and Mars. Trine Sun and Moon.

However, at the same time Jupiter trines his Moon too.

His Sun, Moon and (unaspected) Mercury are in Sag. His Venus and Mars in Capricorn.

He's either an Aquarius or Pisces rising (changes super fast during that time of year for some reason, curious if anyone has insight as to why?) with Saturn potentially being in his first.

I'm curious if anyone with a lot of these energies can help me out here? How or what makes you comfortable being around others? What would make you wanna explore stuff more? Is there anything someone would do that'd make you come out of your shell more? Make you feel loved without feeling uncomfortable at the same time? Doesn't have to be in the romantic sense specifically, more so how you'd genuinely feel not as conscious of your existence, rather free.

Any insight would help. Thanks so much.

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posted January 24, 2020 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have strong Saturnian energy with a Jupiter/Neptune conjunction and upon reading your words I thought of how I love old classic time honored movies like It's a Wonderful Life and versions of Dicken's A Christmas Carol. I love the combination of historical and uplifting life lessons. I love that my partner is willing to continue my traditions, such as watching those films every year at Christmas time.
I think a talking point with someone with similar placements might be time honored traditions that are uplifting. Maybe they also enjoy "Old World" travelling documentaries or historical sites. Exploring ancient beliefs and thought.

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posted January 24, 2020 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Capricorn Saturn backed by Jupiter. It happens every two decades as the result of 12 and 30 years orbital cycles.

Mine is called the "greatest conjunction" because the midpoint of the conjunction is opposite my Sun:

A greatest conjunction is a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn at or near their opposition to the Sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_conjunction

"Is there anything someone would do that'd make you come out of your shell more?"

Respect and humility could.

"How or what makes you comfortable being around others?"

Being familiar with them.

"What would make you wanna explore stuff more?"

Find events (or subjects) interesting to me.

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posted January 24, 2020 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
I have strong Saturnian energy with a Jupiter/Neptune conjunction and upon reading your words I thought of how I love old classic time honored movies like It's a Wonderful Life and versions of Dicken's A Christmas Carol. I love the combination of historical and uplifting life lessons. I love that my partner is willing to continue my traditions, such as watching those films every year at Christmas time.
I think a talking point with someone with similar placements might be time honored traditions that are uplifting. Maybe they also enjoy "Old World" travelling documentaries or historical sites. Exploring ancient beliefs and thought.

I love both of those movies. I still have the 1935 Scrooge, on my DVR, because I didn't get around to watching it.

I have Saturn square Jupiter and Pluto (ruler of my ascendant, or co-ruler), and Jupiter sextile Venus, as well as trine my MC and Neptune. Saturn square Mercury, too, which rules my Moon/Venus/SN.

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posted January 26, 2020 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
I have strong Saturnian energy with a Jupiter/Neptune conjunction and upon reading your words I thought of how I love old classic time honored movies like It's a Wonderful Life and versions of Dicken's A Christmas Carol. I love the combination of historical and uplifting life lessons. I love that my partner is willing to continue my traditions, such as watching those films every year at Christmas time.
I think a talking point with someone with similar placements might be time honored traditions that are uplifting. Maybe they also enjoy "Old World" travelling documentaries or historical sites. Exploring ancient beliefs and thought.

Thanks so much for your insight.

It's interesting that I don't think he's traditional-minded much, at least not what I picked up on so far... But he's resistant toward experiencing new experiences. (I guess that would make one 'traditional-minded' 🤔

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posted January 26, 2020 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I have a Capricorn Saturn backed by Jupiter. It happens every two decades as the result of 12 and 30 years orbital cycles.

Mine is called the "greatest conjunction" because the midpoint of the conjunction is opposite my Sun:

A greatest conjunction is a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn at or near their opposition to the Sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_conjunction

"Is there anything someone would do that'd make you come out of your shell more?"

Respect and humility could.

"How or what makes you comfortable being around others?"

Being familiar with them.

"What would make you wanna explore stuff more?"

Find events (or subjects) interesting to me.


Never heard of this before, so thanks.

What are your other placements, and what subjects or events do you find interesting?

With the Sag and Jupiter in his chart I'm curious if he'd be into traveling/exploring stuff... But he has this reluctancy or something towards new experiences. Which means Saturn at play, I'm curious if bringing about/stimulating his Sagittarius Moon would open doors for him in ways he didn't think he'd appreciate before. I don't really wanna push him towards stuff he wouldn't feel comfortable with, I want him to feel comfortable which is basically my point.

Saturn inconjunct my Venus and I'm not sure how similar it is to the square, but I know I feel super uncomfortable when people try to bring me to have fun. And I kinda don't want him to feel that way I guess.

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posted January 26, 2020 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"What are your other placements, and what subjects or events do you find interesting?"


Leo Sun and Pisces Moon.

Saturn quincunx Venus.

Saturn quincunx Uranus.

Saturn opposite Mercury.

Saturn contra-parallel Venus.

Saturn contra-parallel Mercury.

Saturn parallel Jupiter.


The keyword for subjects for me would be "learning" (science, tech, musical, time).

The keyword for activities would be "bargains" (economic, dining, musicals, patio music, retirement, savings).


I'm conservative, frugal, authoritative, disciplined, and father figure, etc.

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posted January 26, 2020 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks a lot SecretGeek that actually helped.

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posted January 26, 2020 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brenda, people with strong Saturn or earth may be resistant but often enjoy a more outgoing friend who can be their plus one in new situations. Resistance doesn't always mean not interested, just a little or a lot nervous about it. Baby steps. lol

Teasel, Hulu has this new version that's somewhat darker and modern. It is strongly implied that Scrooge was molested when left at the boys school by the headmaster and that his sister saves him because she suspects. It also explains more fully how Scrooge and Marley made money by cutting corners on safety in business causing mines to cave in, trapping and killing workers etc. I was hesitant to watch since it was described as dark but I respect it. I started reading the original book this Christmas (it's really short!) so I could see which versions honored the original the most. The Hulu version expounded on the ideas much more than the versions we are used to, but in an appropriate way to the content.

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posted February 03, 2020 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 03, 2020 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic~Melody:
Brenda, people with strong Saturn or earth may be resistant but often enjoy a more outgoing friend who can be their plus one in new situations. Resistance doesn't always mean not interested, just a little or a lot nervous about it. Baby steps. lol

Wow I didn't see this before. Thanks so much I'm actually at this stage right now lol not sure for what reason he's this way. This explains it I guess. (I mean really I should know, Saturn inconjuncts my Venus but it's difficult when it's on others you assume it's a different story)

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posted February 13, 2020 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ULT12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Title is my bread and butter. Cap Moon/Saturn (conj), opposite Jupiter (tightest aspect in my chart)... Jupiter trine Sun/Merc + Sag Venus ++ that Sag planet is my Chart Ruler

I can't give you helpful answers though. For some reason Saturn has decided to make me its ***** in this life. That is, I am not "open"(friends) with anyone, never had nor will ever have romantic partners, etc. I'm sure he has some hope though, so my answer from my POV isn't relevant. I consider myself rational and logical and I think through everything so I'm really unaffected by signs of hope/positivity/etc like the others mentioned liking types of movies or w/e (my response is: people are people/life is life, a 'hopeful message' or 'reminder of goodness' doesn't mean **** - a person could live a jolly good ol life on a diamond platter, OR a person could be physically beaten and emotionally abused from their very birth.... the notion that "some people are good!!" doesn't mean **** to the latter as they are fated to only ever experience bad guys. /soapbox).

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posted February 13, 2020 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ULT12:
Title is my bread and butter. Cap Moon/Saturn (conj), opposite Jupiter (tightest aspect in my chart)... Jupiter trine Sun/Merc + Sag Venus ++ that Sag planet is my Chart Ruler

I can't give you helpful answers though. For some reason Saturn has decided to make me its ***** in this life. That is, I am not "open"(friends) with anyone, never had nor will ever have romantic partners, etc. I'm sure he has some hope though, so my answer from my POV isn't relevant. I consider myself rational and logical and I think through everything so I'm really unaffected by signs of hope/positivity/etc like the others mentioned liking types of movies or w/e (my response is: people are people/life is life, a 'hopeful message' or 'reminder of goodness' doesn't mean **** - a person could live a jolly good ol life on a diamond platter, OR a person could be physically beaten and emotionally abused from their very birth.... the notion that "some people are good!!" doesn't mean **** to the latter as they are [b]fated to only ever experience bad guys. /soapbox).[/B]


Most authentic and relatable answer I got so far lol. So thanks for that.

Question if you will... When you're saying you never will have romantic partners... Is it something you specifically don't want or don't think you'll find someone matching your interest? AKA you find someone that likes you and you're not opposed to them... No go?

And in your entire past, was there anyone you ever 'somewhat' found freeing? And what was that person like?

Also if I may ask, how old are you?

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posted February 16, 2020 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 16, 2020 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 18, 2020 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Paragraph 1: True. I understand. Not applicable/relevant to me is what I'm saying (recall: I offer nothing(I don't because I 'can't')).
Paragraph 2: Again, certainly true. But again, not applicable-nor-relevant to me.

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Anyhow, shortly after my last reply it dawned on me my favorite singer/musician is a strong match for this thread(we have fire synastry, but perhaps this adds to why I've identified SO MUCH with so many different things for the 15 or so years I've known of him?). Saturn opp Mars/Uranus/Pluto, Cap ASC, Saturn square Nodes/Jupiter conj Venus <1deg, Sag Moon, Jupiter-H5 (H5 'magnifies' Planets).

Trent Reznor - http://tinyurl.com/tr-astro
Admittedly, his birth time is not from BC/BR but "memory"(for a make-a-wish or something recipient he met once he asked his Dad his birth time over text), and Kannon has "rectified" TR's ASC to Gemini... but I don't think that makes sense, whereas the Planets-in-Houses make sense sooo much sense from a personality perspective with the Cap ASC chart, so I choose that one.

(what's interesting is you remember the lyrics I mentioned before? "this world rejects me/this world never gave me a chance" .. AKA feeling like an 'outsider'? He has Uranus sq Venus + SN-H11.)

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posted February 18, 2020 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol I don't think you're really open to changing your opinion... I mean I get it, but what I said still believe holds true. If you ever do decide to reconsider that is.

(And the part where you 'can't' do anything... For God sakes get a job and hire someone to do stuff for you lol. You'll be the one giving them orders for you to contribute to whatever you feel like you 'should' be doing. (This obviously has its limits) I mean again I don't know why they shouldn't be able to interact with a person for the sake of just that person... But I dunno, maybe guys in general feel different about this courting thingy and all... So yeah, what's the possibility of you getting a job, is it there at all? Computer work, anything? I mean c'mon the world is huge I'm sure you can do something in exchange for money.)

"(what's interesting is you remember the lyrics I mentioned before? "this world rejects me/this world never gave me a chance" .. AKA feeling like an 'outsider'? He has Uranus sq Venus + SN-H11.)"

Remind me, we discussed it in this post?

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