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Topic: RIP Kobe Bryant
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SecretGeek
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posted January 26, 2020 06:41 PM
  
Helicopter and death likely mean Uranus.
Uranus' transit is close to being opposite Kobe's Uranus (10 orbs). NN right on the DC. What do you think a sign could have been? IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted January 26, 2020 07:07 PM
so shocking! The only thing I see is TR Uranus exactly on his IC....i can't see anything else in this chart. Should be a combination of several things. But then again, IC in horary is the "end of the matter" . Dunno. Early death and from what I have read, Vanessa loved him entirely. RIP IP: Logged |
FireVirgo
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posted January 26, 2020 07:10 PM
We live in the same neighborhood. My literal words to my husband just yesterday were, “Why did they live here all this time and take helicopters to Staples? It’s so unsafe. They are lucky they never crashed.”It’s really bothering me that I said that. I don’t know in what manner it crashed - but I envisioned being in it, and flat spinning to the ground. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted January 26, 2020 07:16 PM
You may have been intuitively picking up on probable future timelines. Death departure times, are often (though definitely not always) fairly pre set--not necessarily since birth, but some definite planning goes into it at some point on the nonphysical side. When it comes to from birth, there is often a couple to few "most probable" exit choices, but none written in quartz (my twist on the saying of written in stone). As one get's closer and closer to those general timelines, one of those exits gets more probable than others. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted January 26, 2020 07:20 PM
Look at his daughter's chart as well.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted January 26, 2020 07:26 PM
His daughter Gianna (Gigi), too.  IP: Logged |
Brenda_S
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posted January 26, 2020 07:41 PM
The ruler of Uranus, (which sits on top of his home life and opposes his public life) is Venus, which also rules his natal Venus/Mars which sits in his 9th house of travel... That Uranus ruled Venus is stimulated by a square from Mars (which in my belief makes sense for a rather sudden happening, since its' transit doesn't linger like Uranus does), which that Mars is also in Sagittarius (travel) in his 11th (technology, his form of travel). Which oddly enough its ruler Jupiter squares/expands the energy of his natal Mars/aggressive energy in the ninth again. Which is ruled by Venus. Kinda goes in a circle I guess. These aspects are most exact to the degree, which I'm assuming has to be the case if it's something sudden. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 26, 2020 08:50 PM
Put in the asteroids Chaos and Pholus. Anubis( dealth) conj the MC. I wonder if something like Pholus(explosions) sparked it------------------
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Belage
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posted January 26, 2020 08:57 PM
Last December's New Moon eclipse in the south node fell on his ascendant. The ruler of the 12th house, Jupiter, was also conjunct the New Moon eclipse on his ascendant. ETA: Transit Mars in his 12th house is conjunct his Natal Neptune and square Transit Neptune in Pisces. Actions beyond his control (12th house) marred by confusion and fog... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 26, 2020 08:58 PM
Icarus too------------------
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SecretGeek
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posted January 26, 2020 09:01 PM
The natal Chaos asteroid was on his IC so that could be it.IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss
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posted January 26, 2020 09:11 PM
Not trying to steal away from Kobe or his daughter's deaths, may they rest in peace.I've been extremely interested in predictive astrology for a while now and would love for someone to help me with a particular event I've been having visions of in the future. I have the timeframe down to within few months. Does anyone work with predictive astrology? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted January 26, 2020 09:16 PM
The ruler of the 8th house, Sun, is in the 8th house...An interesting thing though. He has Saturn in the 8th house, and the traditional interpretation of this position confers a very long life.
Not in this case. Is it because Saturn in 8th was combust by its conjunction to the Sun there? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted January 26, 2020 09:18 PM
I too was looking at Uranus because this is shocking. But the circumstances of his death point more to Neptune than Uranus. Neptune can also shock. And there was confusion surrounding his death. It took a while to have it confirmed. And apparently, the helicopter is to have crashed "under unknown circumstances." Very Neptunian in terms of uncertainty, confusion and fogginess. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted January 26, 2020 09:19 PM
My condoleances to his wife, children and loved ones. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted January 26, 2020 09:25 PM
I wonder if it's a bogus birth time.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted January 26, 2020 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I wonder if it's a bogus birth time.
The birth time makes a lot of sense to me. Capricorn ascendant fits him. He had an executive presence about him, he was business minded and paid attention to his public image. He was ambitious. The December new moon eclipse in the south node fell on his ascendant, conjunct transit Jupiter (ruler of his 12th) and Venus (could Venus signify his daugther?). The south node is a point of loss and Jupiter there can amplify everything. Remember, eclipses effects can take a while to show up.
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athenaia
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posted January 26, 2020 09:33 PM
Worst thing is probably t. Saturn/Pluto opposite his Jupiter.. the end of his luck with aviation, maybe? Literally Kobe would fly to Los Angeles from Orange County on a daily basis for decades. It IS incredible that nothing dire ever happened until now. The Saturn/Pluto conjunction is conjunct his Moon/Mars midpoint.. The transitting North Node is conjunct his Moon/Saturn midpoint Transit Saturn/Pluto is square his Sun/Neptune midpoint, maybe this being a harsh awakening to the fact that his frequent aviation ventures were dangerous, bursting his bubble The New Moon was opposite his Chiron/MC midpoint. This also means transit Uranus is square this point. A shocking (Uranus) new beginning (New Moon) to his career (MC) but inflicting trauma (Chiron)? Orange mentioned Uranus on the IC, that makes sense this was a family affair and this inevitably affects his other daughters and Vanessa, plus the other family members on board. Sudden death of the breadwinner and patriarch Transit Uranus was also applying a conjunction to his Moon/Chiron, New Moon was also square this point. Trauma seems inevitable RIP to a real one, Kobe Bryant. Los Angeles' champion and gladiator. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted January 26, 2020 09:52 PM
 This chart is Heliocentric Sidereal. Mars Uranus both ways. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted January 26, 2020 10:30 PM
 Here is his progressed chart. Showing both progressed Uranus and Mars in the 8th converging (5 orbs). Transit Uranus opposite his progressed Mars (7 orbs). IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted January 27, 2020 11:24 AM
 His Part of Death is Aries 15°29'.
http://working-cycles.com/arabic_parts_chart.php Transit Mars was Sagittarius 15°58'. Missed a perfect trine by 29 minutes.
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If Mars afflicts the luminaries from Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging, decapitation, crucifixion or impalement.
Fixed star: ALPHERATZ Sirrah
Constellation: Alpha (α  Andromeda
Longitude 1900: 12ARI55 Longitude 2000: 14ARI18
According to Ptolemy the influence of this constellation is similar to that of Venus, though the legend would lead one to suppose some connection with Virgo. It is said to bestow purity of thought, virtue, honor and dignity upon its natives, but to cause battle with chimerical (wildly fanciful, highly improbable) fears and a tendency to become easily discouraged. It gives love between husband and wife and reconciles adulterers. If Mars afflicts the luminaries from Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging, decapitation, crucifixion or impalement. By the Kabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Pé and the 17th Tarot Trump, The Stars. [Robson*, p.26.]
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Stars_in_longitude_order.htm
Fixed star: NODUS II
Constellation: Delta (δ Draco
Longitude 1900: 15ARI51 Longitude 2000: 17ARI10
Influences: According to Ptolemy the bright stars are like Saturn and Mars. Draco gives an artistic and emotional but somber nature, a penetrating and analytical mind, much travel and many friends but danger of robbery and of accidental poisoning. It was said by the Ancients that when a comet was here poison was scattered over the world. By the Kabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Mem and the 13th Tarot Trump "Death." [Robson*, p.43.]
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Stars_in_longitude_order.htm IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted January 28, 2020 08:14 AM
 His daughter Gianna that was killed with him had her Dejanira on his AC using a birth date of 5/1/2006. No, Kobe Bryant and his daughter Gianna did not share birthday
By Miriam Valverde on Monday, January 27th, 2020 at 11:14 a.m.
http://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2020/jan/27/facebook-posts/no-kobe-bryant-and-his-daughter-gianna-did-not-sha/ IP: Logged |
astri
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posted January 28, 2020 10:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Put in the asteroids Chaos and Pholus. Anubis( dealth) conj the MC. I wonder if something like Pholus(explosions) sparked it
In his Solar return: SR Anubis is conjunct SR IC.
SR pallas conjunct natal Anubis I see someone already mentioned Uranus could be involved. In the Solar Return, he has SR Uranus conjunct natal Sedna (Sedna is a life/death goddess) and SR Ascendant conjunct his natal Uranus. Chaos doesn't do much in the SR but is conjunct his IC in his natal chart. SR Descendant is conjunct his natal Moon which is also conjunct his natal Chiron SR Bellerophon conjunct SR Lilith conjunct natal Bellerophon. Bellerophon means overreaching, fatal crashes, being disabled or ‘crippled’ in some way. (this asteroid was also prominent in the chart of JFK) IP: Logged |
astri
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posted January 28, 2020 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
His Part of Death is Aries 15°29'.
http://working-cycles.com/arabic_parts_chart.php Transit Mars was Sagittarius 15°58'. Missed a perfect trine by 29 minutes.
Quote from below:
If Mars afflicts the luminaries from Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging, decapitation, crucifixion or impalement.
Fixed star: ALPHERATZ Sirrah
Constellation: Alpha (α Andromeda
Longitude 1900: 12ARI55 Longitude 2000: 14ARI18
According to Ptolemy the influence of this constellation is similar to that of Venus, though the legend would lead one to suppose some connection with Virgo. It is said to bestow purity of thought, virtue, honor and dignity upon its natives, but to cause battle with chimerical (wildly fanciful, highly improbable) fears and a tendency to become easily discouraged. It gives love between husband and wife and reconciles adulterers. If Mars afflicts the luminaries from Andromeda and especially if in an angle, it causes death by hanging, decapitation, crucifixion or impalement. By the Kabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Pé and the 17th Tarot Trump, The Stars. [Robson*, p.26.]
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Stars_in_longitude_order.htm
Fixed star: NODUS II
Constellation: Delta (δ Draco
Longitude 1900: 15ARI51 Longitude 2000: 17ARI10
Influences: According to Ptolemy the bright stars are like Saturn and Mars. Draco gives an artistic and emotional but somber nature, a penetrating and analytical mind, much travel and many friends but danger of robbery and of accidental poisoning. It was said by the Ancients that when a comet was here poison was scattered over the world. By the Kabalists it is associated with the Hebrew letter Mem and the 13th Tarot Trump "Death." [Robson*, p.43.]
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Stars_in_longitude_order.htm
Great find! When it comes to asteroids, I see Ophelia at 12°14 in the Solar return widely conjunct his Part of Death. SR Lilium (air taxi service) is in between natal Uranus and natal Ophelia. His natal Lilium is exactly on the cusp of the 8th House (with the birth time here provided) and widely conjunct the vertex and Sabena (airplane company). In the SR, the MC and Mercury is conjuncting these. SR Sabena is also conjuncting natal Pallas and Atlantis. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted January 28, 2020 02:41 PM
Thank-you everyone for the comments.IP: Logged |
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