posted February 14, 2020 06:07 AM            

When I wrote (channelled?) this piece, I was not sure what was going to come through. I was drawn to do so however, and I was moved by what ended up being written.

Other creatives will probably know that feeling, when you aren't really ~conscious~ of what you are doing and it feels kind of new to you when you read it through?

Anyway here's the article, I really hope it helps you all with your Saturn lessons:
http://askastrology.com/the-importance-of-your-saturn-sign/

As always I'd love your feedback, I tailored it to begin with Saturn in Capricorn as you guys are going through it all right now.

Shalom and blessings~~~~ ♥

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posted February 14, 2020 02:42 PM            

Saturn squares will show you have to work a little harder for the attention which you usually attract so easily and your Saturn return could show you choosing a spouse, who adores you enough for you to have a steady level of contentment in your day to day life. You may have struggled as a child, knowing too surely what it was that you wanted to do and finding the ‘rules’ oppressive, but you will excel when you can make your own choices and dictate the new way forward for those around you. You are a natural leader, use it for kindness and good"

posted February 14, 2020 03:16 PM            

Seen the ills of the world? Absolutely. Even those closest to me. And I don't forget them either- which leads to deep distrust.

I have also experienced the pain of being abandoned emotionally. And I think water Saturn highlights that poignantly-making intimacy harder as one grows older.

In Scorpios case,it is sexual intimacy which is linked to trust. I have met quite a few with sexual hangups and inhibitions due to an inability to trust anyone enough to let them get close.

Am I learning to laugh and focus on what I can change? Yes. I refuse to indulge my mind too deeply on the negative. It makes one cynical and not a joy to be around.

Its not so important as it was to have others "see" the truth now. Even as I may get occasionally frustrated with their oblivious nature.

But I realize it's not my job to "unearth" or make revelations at all.Just do me.

posted February 14, 2020 03:38 PM            

it's in mutual reception with my neptune in cap, so i feel an amplified need for creativity daily or i get sad. as for helping others being stronger than a chemical fix --- yes it is maybe just as strong
the things that get me down are just the world in general! almost nothing else depletes my soul as much as reading the news or hearing about the hypocrisy and evils of humanity. philosophy and music are the only things keeping me going. and love

oh! and i just said the other day that my dreams almost seem more important or 'real' than reality sometimes. i say that a lot actually!

posted February 15, 2020 02:23 PM            

Self has a complex Saturn though, it's in Virgo but cusping Libra, and conjunct Libra Moon. Since neither Cancer nor Moon are highlighted otherwise, but Capricorn is (ruler of Sun and Mercury Signs, and co ruler of Venus and Desc), Saturn becomes a more receptive and highlighted symbol (2nd only to the Sun, the chart ruler) for this chart (meaning, whatever is connected to it, Sign, House, and especially Planetary wise, becomes more highlighted).

This makes for a softer, more Feminine, more right brained, and less harshly critical Virgo Saturn. It also brings in a strong psychic and spiritual focus since the Moon rules the 12th--the close sextile with angular Uranus, and the wide square with 5th House Neptune also emphasizes these focuses.

Hence, in some ways, I do not fully relate to the delineation of Virgo Saturn. But there is some of that perfectionist, critical, etc side.

posted February 15, 2020 04:17 PM            

Your description is pretty accurate indeed!

I've always been a bigger picture kind of gal, in several ways. I like exploring a subject to the point that I have an intuitive grasp of the big picture and can let go of the pesky details. I also tend to see the bigger picture when it comes to any problems that arise, be it practical issues or more emotionally related ones. I'm a decent problem solver because of it. I have more of a holistic view and don't tend to get stuck on little details.

Eclectic collector? Yes, definitely! Of anything that brings me pleasure. Books, art, perfume, clothing, jewelry... as well as intangible experiences and knowledge. I know a little bit about everything.

Definitely bad at adulting though. I've gotten better at it since my Saturn return (which was rather untroubled), but it's not my strong suit. I struggle through doing boring things by listening to podcasts or other audio entertainment while doing so, but if faced with the choice of either reading or doing some dull chore, I'll pick reading every time. Good thing I made it my profession, as a librarian. Whenever I pick up a book I can say that I'm working, and it will actually be true!

posted February 15, 2020 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Saturn in Scorpio.

Seen the ills of the world? Absolutely. Even those closest to me. And I don't forget them either- which leads to deep distrust.

I have also experienced the pain of being abandoned emotionally. And I think water Saturn highlights that poignantly-making intimacy harder as one grows older.

In Scorpios case,it is sexual intimacy which is linked to trust. I have met quite a few with sexual hangups and inhibitions due to an inability to trust anyone enough to let them get close.

Am I learning to laugh and focus on what I can change? Yes. I refuse to indulge my mind too deeply on the negative. It makes one cynical and not a joy to be around.

Its not so important as it was to have others "see" the truth now. Even as I may get occasionally frustrated with their oblivious nature.

But I realize it's not my job to "unearth" or make revelations at all.Just do me.

To reprogram myself & unlearn deep,harmful psychological conditioning is more about ME than it is for anyone else.

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posted February 16, 2020 12:03 AM            

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You have probably conformed very successfully throughout your life

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For some reason, I relate more to Saturn in Scorpio's interpretation than the description of Saturn in Aquarius written here.

I also relate to Saturn in Capricorn to some degree, which might be a result of Saturn's semi-square to my North Node in Capricorn. While it's a minor aspect, this is the tightest aspect in my entire chart. We're talking within 5 minutes tight.

posted February 16, 2020 01:47 AM            

I also know who I am and have since my early twenties. I've already done all my soul searching for that. Setting aside for more introspection would be overkill since I already live in my head.

My issue is being too much of a loner and an outcast...putting myself out there. Being a part of groups, networking, and making like-minded friends will be my challenge.

posted February 16, 2020 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by moongaze:
Aquarius Saturn in the 11th house. I agree with others here in that I've never really conformed either. Anyone who knows me well would know that I am someone who abhors convention and the mainstream.

I also know who I am and have since my early twenties. I've already done all my soul searching for that. Setting aside for more introspection would be overkill since I already live in my head.

My issue is being too much of a loner and an outcast...putting myself out there. Being a part of groups, networking, and making like-minded friends will be my challenge.

Also, to see if my hopes and dreams will come to fruition due to all the work I've put in over the years. My biggest fear is that this will be delayed.

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I can relate... don't see it as your dreams been delayed, sometimes Saturn wants you to have a few life experiences first before it rewards your hard work and puts you in a certain path.

posted February 16, 2020 01:19 PM            

The Saturn return for you may show a very different perspective and as one who is in touch with the tangible, commercial world, you may decide to change careers or lifestyles quite unexpectedly. Money is quite a priority to you until you make some and realize that it isn’t anywhere near as fulfilling as being outdoors in nature. Finding the balance between worldly success and the natural life around you will be your point of finding happiness and true fulfillment. What we give back to the land, is more important than making our mark in life, as it will last for longer.

posted February 16, 2020 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by moongaze:
Aquarius Saturn in the 11th house. I agree with others here in that I've never really conformed either. Anyone who knows me well would know that I am someone who abhors convention and the mainstream.

I also know who I am and have since my early twenties. I've already done all my soul searching for that. Setting aside for more introspection would be overkill since I already live in my head.

My issue is being too much of a loner and an outcast...putting myself out there. Being a part of groups, networking, and making like-minded friends will be my challenge.

Also, to see if my hopes and dreams will come to fruition due to all the work I've put in over the years. My biggest fear is that this will be delayed.

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I relate to the parts in bold.
As always the rest of the natal aspects, house placements etc play a huge role and can alter things.
My Satutn though is unaspected since it doesn't make major aspects tighter than 8 orbs.

I have Uranus opposing Sun and ASC.
Being a loner can come from many other placements especially Neptunian/Plutonian/Saturnian in nature for example Sun in 12th H.
I have others placements that indicate lonelness and living in your hear is definately Neptunian/Uranian trait.
I have both and I feel you. I was living in my head 80% of the time if not more for the first 16-17 years of my life, then it gradually faded. I wanna go back to that state so bad, I have difficulty doing it now even with music. I feel like that state was less harmfull for me mentally and emotionally.

posted February 16, 2020 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Doesn't Saturn give the opposite traits of a sign? like if Saturn in Leo individual may be afraid to take the spotlight position?

Or is it just a slower long term kind of Mars (action-oriented)?

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I love how you are conceptualizing it, its interesting.

I wish I could say that my saturn in scorpio gives me Taurus traits. I could have used some Taurus from the start to keep me more grounded bc Neptune was too strong in my chart although I feel I have neutralized this energy and learned to channel it better now.

I would say that saturn grows wiser with time and were saturn falls you develop more those traits in your life time and learn lessons involving that theme. For example, I remember as a child wanting to develop my intuition and ability to read people and get to the core of their essence quickly. I ended up studying psychology and astrology, both fields that help me develop that skill more over time.

I would say that sex had a lot of power over me and now that saturn has reached its age of maturity (happens around 35-36) it doesn't anymore. I feel I integrated the lesson that there are consequences to merging with someone and that I have more power over others than I realize that I become romantically involved with and that I give too much power to others too over me through sex/intimacy and this type of merging comes with consequences.

posted February 17, 2020 07:37 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I love how you are conceptualizing it, its interesting.

I wish I could say that my saturn in scorpio gives me Taurus traits. I could have used some Taurus from the start to keep me more grounded bc Neptune was too strong in my chart although I feel I have neutralized this energy and learned to channel it better now.

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posted February 17, 2020 07:53 AM            

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12. Saturn in Sagittarius
You have a great ability to see ‘the bigger picture’ and the broader concepts in life.

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That fits me well also I have Uranus conjunct Saturn in Sagittarius 3rd house so i'm like a revolutionary philosopher

posted February 17, 2020 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I must correct my self Saturn doesn't give opposite traits of sign instead it RESTRICT it till reaching maturity... i don't remember where i've read this.

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It was still a cool thought experiment to consider.

posted February 25, 2020 08:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Hi, I only read Saturn in Virgo. How did you know about the music thing?

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It's my job to know Ayelet ;-) Mostly I know from observing and listening to people for 20+ years :-)

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posted February 25, 2020 09:02 AM            

Thanks for your insights and feedback there Aries23Degree ♥

Thanks so much for your positive insight Selenite ♥ that means a lot. I felt the article was ‘channelled’ as I didn’t ever really ~consciously~ think about Saturn along these lines really before. It’s lovely to know that it resonates. ♥

High five – GalacticCoreExplosion, I also have an out of sign Moon-Saturn conjunction and it sure does add its own flavour into the mix doesn’t it! I find that Virgo tends to be more self evaluating than critical, in its higher octave; the healer, rather than the wound. :-) You know yourself too well not to transcend I do believe :-)

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posted February 25, 2020 09:12 AM            

Thanks Dons2angels!

Interesting Plutonian and Lerena and Moongaze that you all find you don’t relate to the Saturn in Aquarius write-up….almost as if you are both keen to rebel hahaha!! Certainly you are making a point of not conforming right now. Seems like a hit a nerve there….sorry guys… :-)

Thanks Hypatia, I appreciate the feedback, we do integrate the Saturn lessons differently after the return don’t we. ♥

Thanks SwissViking, appreciate it
Thanks girlwiththerainysoul – how lovely that you read my blog, thank you. I am only writing for AskAstrology at the moment, so I hope the broader selection of material is still interesting. ♥

Thanks colourfulbutterfly, what a lovely name, it has a musical/poetic vibe to it. I would imagine you to connect to music just through that choice. ♥

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