posted February 16, 2020 03:49 PM            

And it's ruler, Venus in Cancer I especially don't appreciate. Anyone with strong Cancer placements I never relate well to (except Cancer risings maybe, more so cuz I like their moodiness for some odd reason. And Cancer Moons that conjunct my Mars only, not my Venus). They're too clingy and emotional for my liking. Although at the same I can act very much like one when I like a person, and they need to be able to handle that moody and emotional side of me lol. But they can't be one.

People I find myself continuously attracted to are those with strong Aquarius/Uranus placements and also Pisces (but not Pisces rising. Sun and Mars I especially like).

I know my Venus opposes Uranus and Neptune which would 'make sense' for me to be attracted to those... But why do I need to go so far as to be attracted to those that opposes my Venus sign, ruler of my fifth. Why don't I find myself relating to my actual fifth house cusp? Like, what causes me to be particularly not attracted to them?

Thanks!

posted February 16, 2020 07:51 PM            

This is also born out in my spouses case. She has attracted a lot of men with strong Gemini, and for the most part, most of them have been more attracted to her than she to them. She has Gemini on her 5th. She tends to get along with them, but more in a friendly kind of way and can take or leave the connection.

This doesn't mean it can't be mutual, but there will usually be other factors present that correlate with that.

Now, on the other hand, when you put Aquarius on the Asc, using equal/whole house system, Gemini is on the 5th. This means that in a general sense, people with strong Gemini tend to be attracted to those with strong Aquarius in a 5th House kind of way.

There is a woman that captures my Sun in her 5th, among many other factors/variables--many more mutual. I am completely and utterly smitten with her (as much as I would prefer not to be). I probably feel a bit more intensely about her than she does for me, as in my case, I only capture her Jupiter in my 5th. However, since Jupiter co-rules her 7th House (Pisces), rules her 4th House (Sag), and is found in her 4th House in it's own Sign of Sagittarius, it does increase this beyond what Jupiter would normally indicate and in a more partnership (7th) and deeper kinship (4th) kind of way. (Her Jupiter is also conjunct my Neptune, ruler of my 8th).

I also capture her Venus-Saturn in my 8th, and Saturn rules her 5th, so yeah, chances are that combined with other factors like double Venus-Mars oppositions, Sun and Moon being opposite signs, etc that she feels a strong draw to me as well and that it's not one sided. I already know this from the brief times we spent together. She stared into my eyes as if she was falling in love with me, the 2nd time we spent time together. She looked like she was high on Molly/E. That's very 5th and 8th House combo, double Venus Mars oppositions kind of stuff. Our composite is super intense as well, with a close conjunction of Sun, Venus, and Mercury in early Pisces in the 7th, very early Virgo Mars (ruler of 8th) opposed same and conjunct late Leo Rising, etc. Other than that opposition, almost every other aspect is a close trine and sextile with a lot of them.

posted February 16, 2020 08:00 PM            

You have a fairly strong Cancer, and hence you would tend to be strongly attracted to Pisces in that 5th House kind of way, similar as to Aquarius.

5th House is highlighted for you, since the ruler of same--Venus, is in your 1st House. This not only strongly highlights Venus in your chart and psyche, but also 5th and 12th House matters and patterns.

Dare I say with all this Venus, Cancer, 5th, and 12th Highlighting, you are more than a bit of a romantic, that really likes 5th House type connections and attractions?

posted February 16, 2020 10:55 PM            

When someone's planet falls in your 5th H it automatically means that it squares your Venus or Mars or your Venus/Mars midpoint. The probability of the square is too high because your Venus is in early degrees of Cancer, your Mars in later degrees and their midpoint naturally occurs in middle degrees of the same sign.

You also have a bunch of other planets (Uranus, Neptune, Chiron and the Nodes) in Cancer and Capricorn, the most annoying squares would probably be those to your Nodes and Uranus (both in your 8th H which is the water house with the most depth and also one of the three relationship houses).

You actually relate to your 5th H more than you realise because your Venus represents both itself (values, tastes etc) and your 5th H making it's significance doubled. Actually make that triple.. since your Venus
happens to be the only planet falling in a cardinal house.

Neptune opposes your Venus/Mars midpoint so being attracted to Pisces makes sense and goes well with almost all of your personal and outer planets, as well as with your Neptunian aspects.
The only one disliking Piscean energy would be your Gemini Moon, however your Moon just like your Sun are in 12th H of Neptune anyway.

Venus opposite Uranus gives you Aquarian qualities and makes you attracted to Aquarian partners. Aqua also goes well with your Moon and Mercury and of course your Uranian by aspect Venus.

Again, Uranus and Neptune are in your 8th H along with your North Node, you definately seek this qualities in your intimate relationships, you need them in order to bond with someone.

You are not attracted to your Venus sign because aspects and house placements are stronger that signs, meaning they alter the sign's traits significantly depending on the aspect and house placements.

As a Cancer Sun and ASC opposite Uranus I'm getting along way too well with Aquas while I don't get along with Cancers half as much, (unless they have lots of Uranian energy in their chart too).

posted February 17, 2020 12:42 AM            

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How about those having Virgo and Mercury influence?

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posted February 17, 2020 01:05 AM            

I considered the possibility of that in the past... And it might hold some truth... But when thinking about certain scenarios... Like my ex... Pisces rising. I really was not drawn to him in any way. And I know that he was to me. So there might be other things contributing to this lack of attraction... Actually more than one lol, my Sun, Moon and Mars were all unaspected with a lot of inconjuncts and rarely any harmonious aspects, except from outer planets and Mercury. So I know this is an exception... But I for some reason never find myself being drawn to Pisces risings... But Pisces Suns... Oh gosh lol.

And you certainly sound pretty smitten with that girl lol hope nothing bad comes outta this 😅 kidding.

"Dare I say with all this Venus, Cancer, 5th, and 12th Highlighting, you are more than a bit of a romantic, that really likes 5th House type connections and attractions?

Lol, you're a Notebook mixed with a bit of steamy romance novel type book, kind of gal I would imagine."

posted February 17, 2020 01:26 AM            

I like the way you took this all apart... Especially the Neptune opposing my Venus/Mars midpoint I never really considered this the reason for finding them that much more attractive... Since although I know Neptune opposes my Venus, the opposition is pretty wide at 9 degrees and thought the attraction factor was maybe more 'sexual' (?) where Neptune would be a closer aspect to my Mars... or 12th house being ruled by Venus giving it more weight... But technically sexually I do find the passivity of Neptunians extremely hawt lol... And again as you said it's in my eighth house which would give it more power...

posted February 17, 2020 02:45 AM            

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@Galactic

I considered the possibility of that in the past... And it might hold some truth... But when thinking about certain scenarios... Like my ex... Pisces rising. I really was not drawn to him in any way. And I know that he was to me. So there might be other things contributing to this lack of attraction... Actually more than one lol, my Sun, Moon and Mars were all unaspected with a lot of inconjuncts and rarely any harmonious aspects, except from outer planets and Mercury. So I know this is an exception... But I for some reason never find myself being drawn to Pisces risings... But Pisces Suns... Oh gosh lol.

And you certainly sound pretty smitten with that girl lol hope nothing bad comes outta this 😅 kidding.

"Dare I say with all this Venus, Cancer, 5th, and 12th Highlighting, you are more than a bit of a romantic, that really likes 5th House type connections and attractions?

Lol, you're a Notebook mixed with a bit of steamy romance novel type book, kind of gal I would imagine."

Pretty spot on here lol. Romantic drama is my forte when it comes to movies... It just envelops all my body molecules lol

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To be honest, I'm of the opinion and experience that a fair percentage of people do not have the Rising Sign that they think they do. Hence, it's possible that some of those Pisces Risings weren't actually and truly Pisces Risings. Just as likely to be Aquarius or Aries statistical wise.

It would take a long time to fully and completely explain this take, but I would direct you to a most unusual source, the Edgar Cayce psychic readings, if you would like to learn more about this little known topic.

I'm not 100% sure, but it seems like our very own Kannon is well aware of this issue and is on board with the Cayce readings as well about it. Again, not completely sure, but it seems like it.

But to give you a hint or so, Cayce's guidance talks about the potential (and somewhat common) difference in times between the physical/first breath time and the energetic/spiritual birth time when a Soul more fully connects to the infant's body.

Before I ever heard of this concept, my rather psychic mom, told me that it was a number of minutes (she didn't know exactly how many) after my body was born, that she saw a Light come down and enter into my body i.e. that was Soul me making a more full connection to the body. When I came upon the Cayce readings and his guidance's references to this, I was like, "eureka" my Mom perceived truly.

Funny enough, a slightly later chart (still same Rising Sign), fits me better than the physical birth time and in a very holistic way.

Cayce's guidance indicated that sometimes a Soul will complete it's connection to a body, a half day or more BEFORE or AFTER the physical/first breath birth! His own secretary and Twin Soul, Gladys Davis, was told that the difference between her physical and spiritual birth times was more than a half day.

If all this is true, this of course makes astrology a lot more uncertain and complicated. But that is where rectification comes in. I use a holstic combo of physical traits/characteristics, personality/temperament, and some transits etc.

For example, when my Mom died of cancer, Saturn was at 12 degrees, and fairly closely conjunct my hypothetical, better fitting chart and it's MC at 10.5 or so degrees Taurus and opposing my IC.

My physical birth time gives an MC of around 5 degrees. Too far away from Saturn separating aspect. Saturn is very connected to women and mother figures in my chart. Saturn rules my Venus Sign and conjuncts my Moon. And of course, the 10th/4th House axis IS the parental axis par excellence. Saturn being strongly connected to these at this time, when I was very close to my Mom, is more than logical and fitting for that event and the astrological correlations.

Needless to say, I have put A LOT of thought and research into this topic and for a number of years.

The later chart also fits my physical body better and my weird, genetically altered spine (missing an entire lumbar vertebrae as shown by the later chart having Sun, ruler of the chart in Capricorn closely quincux the Asc degree.

There is about a half hour difference between the physical birth chart and the true spiritual/energetic birth chart in my case. This is not uncommon of a difference, but a Rising Sign before and after the birth one is also quite common. But then again, plenty of Souls do complete near first breath.

If it sounds like a big ole mess, well it is. Tough luck for us humans, that's life--it's uncertain in a lot of ways as it is.

In some ways, I'm lucky, because I'm rather, unusually intuitive/psychic. This helps with this issue quite a bit.

posted February 17, 2020 02:55 AM            

My spouse and I are both rather Aquarian in attunement and both have Aquarius Venus. We have an open option. No real trouble to get into. We've been together for 18+ years--a very secure and stable relationship (Twin Souls and more or less on the same page in the most important areas and ideals).

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And also the rest of the Cardinal signs being potentially square my natal planets is probably the reason for my lack of attraction towards them, as you said... However it's interesting I've continually attracted Aries Venus individuals... That's either cuz of my ruling planet being conjunct theirs, or maybe my Venus in an Aries house?

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Venus and Aries are essentially opposite/complementary energies. You have very strong Venus energy. There tends to be strong attraction between strong opposite/completary type energies.

Like two opposite sides of a magnet nearing each other and wanting to snap together.

For me, I notice this most with Aquarius since I have Leo Rising, and Venus in Aquarius also helps.

But I also notice it some with Aries, as I have Libra Moon and strong Venus, and I notice it some with Virgo-Pisces axis, as I have angular Pisces South Node, but also also Virgo Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn besides the Virgo North Node. I also happen to have a rather strong combo of Jupiter, Neptune, and Mercury.

Aries is somewhat strong for me as well, because of the Leo Rising. Strong Leo is attracted to strong Aries in a 5th House kind of way.