posted February 18, 2020 01:28 AM            

Are you aware that one of Cayce's first Life Readings for himself, his guidance says this interesting tidbit (as well as points to Uranus being his strongest indication).

"8. ...One who finds much in the scope or sphere of intrigue in secret love affairs. One given often to the conditions that have to do with the affairs of the heart, and of those relations that have to do with sex..."

Excerpted from Reading 294-8

Hmmm, what Rising Sign besides Scorpio has the strongest sex drive, and at the same time is over attached to romance and affairs of the HEART? Would Uranus in Leo alone be enough to correlate with this?

Are you aware that Edgar's decades long secretary and Twin Soul, was born under Aquarius, the opposite/complementary Sign of Leo his Rising Sign? Are you aware that his wife was born very close to the Pisces-Aquarius cusp, and her Sun was in direct opposition aspect to his latish Leo Asc?

Are you aware that he was 6' 2" (born in 1877 mind you) and very skinny for most of his life? (i.e., the height and skinniness correlates with Uranus closely conjunct his Asc). And that he had an unusually long back (Hmm, unusual=Uranus+back=Leo Rising)?

Are you not aware that a past life talked about him being particularly influenced by, his other self's name was Ra Ta, meaning Sun came to Earth, and that the Egyptians later deified his life/personality as the Sun God Ra/Re? Hmmm, what rules Leo? When was this lifetime btw? When the age of Leo was starting to dawn.

The point being made is that your discrimination and discernment in this area seems to be sorely lacking. What is lacking is holistic logic and taking into account many different variables simultaneously. People with Taurus Mercury often have to think very step by step, correct? Meanwhile being more stubborn and fixed than any other Sign, and rarely ever admitting that they are or can be wrong.

A long while back I posted at your blog about this issue of Cayce's Rising Sign, and wouldn't you know it, my post/reply kept disappearing even though it only contained relevant data and in an impersonal tone i.e just talking about the facts and information.

What were you so afraid of that you kept erasing my posts about this matter?

However, interestingly, you kept my positive, encouraging post about and to you in relation to declination parallel aspects.

posted February 18, 2020 02:00 AM            

Are you aware that he also had Taurus Moon conjunct Taurus MC, widely square the close Leo Uranus Asc conjunction, and that his ruling planet, the Sun, was in Pisces? Both of these factors in combo, can easily account for his slightly roundish face.

However, what Cancer Rising with his Moon in Taurus, doesn't account for is his unusual/above average height and that he was quite skinny for most of his life. He was also a man filled to the brim with nervous energy, which is why he smoked like a chimney. Taurus on the other hand, is one of the most placid and calm signs of the Zodiac. Taurus would be extra powerful in his chart if he had Cancer Rising.

Does above average height (probably equivalent to our times of around 6' 4" to 6' 5"), unusually skinny, and filled with nervous energy sound like Cancer Rising with Moon in Taurus, or does it sound like Leo Rising with Uranus closely conjunct same and with Sun, Rising ruler in mutable Pisces?

Both Cancer and Taurus have sluggish metabolisms and when strongly in connection with the Asc, in an archetypal sense, indicate a definite tendency to gaining weight easier than most other Signs.

Both Cancer and Taurus are short to the lower end of average in height, and here we have two Signs allegedly powerfully connected to a person's Asc that often correlate with short to shortish stature, and yet the person in question was well above the average at the time.

Where is the disconnect? His Moon is not closely square Uranus enough to account for it.

One of your arguments that he had Cancer Rising is that he was a family man? Sure about that one? Truth is, he was not particularly devoted to his family, but more to his work/career and spiritual service/ideal. His family actually often suffered for his devotion to his work.

Shortly before he died, Edgar was reported to have asked Gertrude his wife, "Do you know that I love you?" She replied of course. He then followed up, "How do you know? When you love someone you sacrifice for them, what have I ever sacrificed for you?"

He was honestly recognizing in his last days that he could have been a better family man--a better husband, a better father. He of course did love his family, and his wife.

But, he also came rather close to cheating on his wife at least a couple times. One time, so close, that a supernatural influence intervened. On his way upstairs to see a female fan of his, the mysterious man in the turban appeared, and when Cayce saw him, he turned right around and headed back down the stairs never to talk to that beautiful young woman.

See, this mysterious turbaned man, would sometimes show up suddenly and unexpectedly in his life, and seemed to know things and conditions about Edgar. A number of people theorize that this was either an Angel or Master type who could materialize in physical form whenever he wanted to.

I truly am utterly baffled that you think that Edgar had Cancer and not Leo Rising. Almost all the support and corroborating data goes to Leo + powerful Uranus, and not to Cancer, from looks, to personality, to strong inclinations/temptations, synastry with closest people, etc, etc.

As to personality, one biographer who actually lived with Cacye for a little while, once described Edgar in connection with his past life influences of Ra Ta and Ujlted, as sometimes pacing to and fro as if a frustrated king without power, because he sometimes got a glimpse of Cayce's dark, and somewhat autocratic, dictatorial side. In other words, he could be very willful, and more than a little prideful.

He and Cayce actually got into a rather heated argument, and Harmon Bro ended up shoving Edgar in intense anger. Neither was completely wrong, and neither was completely right, but the point being is that Edgar had a definite temper and very strong personality that sometimes could flare up, much like one would expect with Leo Rising with Uranus closely conjunct same. He was reported in anger to have temporarily/very briefly fired his faithful, devoted, loving Twin Soul/secretary Gladys Davis, a number of times. (Usually because he felt she was adding too much in/or interpreting the readings over much).

Not uber passive, peace at a price, I dislike confrontation but will sulk in the corner, etc combo of powerful blend of Cancer, Taurus, and Pisces.

posted February 18, 2020 04:12 PM            

In his case, at least two others could have been involved (witnesses), one representing Cayce, for note taking purposes.

So nothing of Cayce is credible because of the potential of conscious parties being deceptive and/or bribed, especially reincarnation and other new age stuff.

Imagine if Jesus only had two witnesses.

Heck, some don't believe Jesus existed.

So when you make an astrology case using Cayce, I discount it.

I know it's important to you to make astrology cases using Cayce's work, because you mentioned him so often.

posted February 18, 2020 05:58 PM            

Coming from a Leo, many Leos are gifted at understanding the “heart”, especially the conscience.

There are three types of hearts: the emotional heart, the physical heart, and the place where the soul and human spirit meet called the heart.

A few of the words or sentences below are reused because they might be necessary to explain what reality (truth) is and how it pertains to the conscience.

So if I have a relatively blocked conscience, I might be unintentionally deceiving you.

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We have a body, soul, and a human spirit.

The body and soul combined (self) versus the human spirit (not self) are in contrast to each other.

Where the soul and human spirit are bound together at conception is the heart.

The soul contains access to the mind, will, and emotion.

The human spirit contains access to the conscience, wisdom, and communion and only represents life in the flesh (body).

When we become deceased, the human spirit returns to the Source, the body decays, and the soul persists.

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Humility (unselfishness) is when the human spirit is master to the soul.

This is how we can access the spiritual faculties, such as a conscience, in our human spirit.

We switch between one another all the time, maybe without knowing it.

When we eat (selfishness), the soul becomes master.

If we pray before eating to give thanks, we switch back and forth quickly.

It's impossible to access our soul and human spirit at the same time.

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There are two kinds of reality: Absolute (not self) and Relative (self).

Absolute Reality is sometimes called Absolute Truth while Relative Reality is sometimes called Truth or Self Truth.

Absolute Reality is the Ultimate Truth, is constant, and never changes.

Relative Reality is what self (soul) thinks Absolute Truth is, is never constant, and always changes.

As long as the soul is in the body, the difference of the two types of Reality (Truths) is Self-Deception.

In other words, Absolute Truth minus Relative Truth equals Self-Deception.

The conscience contained in the human spirit at least records and stores Self-Deception.

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The conscience can be isolated and at least regulates (governor) the flow of external wisdom coming through the human spirit to the soul.

The more clear a conscience is, the closer Relative Truth is to Absolute Truth.

In other words, the more clarity a conscience one has, the less Self-Deception one has and thus, the more spiritual wisdom one can receive.

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At extremes, a newborn baby has a relatively clear conscience, while a psychopath has a relatively blocked conscience.

Many times, a psychopath doesn't know what's right or wrong.

A newborn and children in general, are closest to knowing Absolute Truth and have the least amount of Self-Deception.

Likewise, psychopaths are furthest away from knowing Absolute Truth and have the most Self-Deception.

As we age, we have the tendency to accumulate wrongdoings on our conscience.

If not removed, the wrongdoings can increase the blockage of our conscience, and interfere with our ability to determine what Absolute Truth is, thereby reducing incoming external wisdom.

posted February 18, 2020 10:25 PM            

I'll get back soon re: Cayce when I get a break from work for clients. Yes, I am very familiar with his rather patchy and unclear reading of his own chart.

Meanwhile, here are some articles on the topic:
- Astrology in the Edgar Cayce Readings
- The Incarnation Process & the Ascendant

Reading material:
- Astrological Revelations by John Willner

posted February 19, 2020 02:44 AM            

If you would like to create a thread about whether or not E.C. was credible, feel free to do so*. This thread however is about whether or not E.C. had Leo or Cancer Rising, and whether or not Tesla had Aries Rising or Taurus Rising with Uranus closely conjunct his Asc.

I don't mind, and I expect some eventual thread drift, however, when the first reply is totally and completely off the rails from the subject matter--that seems a little egregious to me, and this is the 2nd time you've done this on my threads. The first being my thread about the 3 unique and major cycles that only happen during the Capricorn Solar period.

*Alas, if you do create such a thread, I shall not be joining you. I don't mind debate, but if I intuit and see that a person is completely and utterly closed off because they are enmeshed in naught but dogmatic belief and prejudice, and don't have even an inkling of a scientific approach or attitude, I don't waste my time/energy on such people.

The scientific approach is that of open minded skepticism. You deeply research with no preconceptions or belief a subject, and then you start to formulate an opinion about said subject. Not, you come to a preconceived belief and discount things automatically and in a knee jerk manner because it doesn't conform to a preconceived belief system.

How much have you actually researched Cayce? Have you read Kirkpatrick's biography of him? I don't know how many biographical type pieces about him exist now, but its easily in the double digits--however, many folks, including myself, consider Kirkpatrick's the most extensively and painstakingly researched, thorough, objective, and well written. Here is Kirkpatrick's background btw, and keep in mind he is on record for stating that before he researched E.C., he was a total and complete skeptic of ALL things spiritual, psychic, nonphysical, and religious in nature:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_D._Kirkpatrick
Note, he specializes in non fiction and biographical type work.

Are you aware that back in the late 20's/early 30's, decades ahead of time, Cayce's readings predicted a global warming trend on the dot? Are you aware that his source predicted a change in the cycle of the poles for the period of 2000/2001, and indeed, a major change did start to occur in the magnetic poles of the earth then?

Are you aware that in talking about ancient Egypt, his source made a curious comment about the Nile having flowed in a completely different direction and emptying into a different body of water than present day, and that we didn't find this out until modern times when advanced satellite imaging found a huge ancient river system that was near, and yet flowing in a different direction than present day Nile?

Do you know that he gave information about the Essene's which sounded off then, but after the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered (after he died btw) and archaeological research was done at Qumran and other Essene connected places, that information was verified.

Are you aware that there are literally hundreds of affidavits signed by people with medical issues--in some cases also signed by their doctors, that attest to the definite medical help that they received when they followed his source's advice?

Ever heard of little Aimee Dietrich? A 6 year old child whose well off parents were in desperation after sending her to numerous doctors who couldn't help their daughter and her increasingly severe intellectual delayed development. She just sat and stared as if in a catatonic state, didn't speak, didn't do much of anything. Within weeks of receiving Cayce's reading and implementing the holistic treatment, she said her parents' names for the first time. She went back to school. She just kept improving and improving. If I remember correctly, she eventually graduated from college. Not bad for a little girl who all the experts said was a hopeless case, and would be severely intellectually handicapped for the rest of her life.

When it comes to Earth changes information, there are a number of major misinterpretations that have been repeated ad nauseum by some folks, and have put words in Cayce's mouth. Many of these sources don't ever quote the specific readings involved, or if they do, they share a brief excerpt and take something way out of a context that often includes entire other pages of the larger reading.

I'm an A.R.E member, and have access to the full data base of some 14 thousand and three hundred some odd readings. I dig into it directly and don't just take other people's word for it.

Serious researchers can go down to the A.R.E. in Virginia Beach and access the original carbon copies of the readings on file. Sidney Kirkpatrick did that in researching for the book, as well as correspondence between the Cayce family and many other people over a some nearly 40 year period.

The Cayce's were smart--they were like the Egyptians, they recorded and documented a lot. As Kirkpatrick has stated, Cayce and his life is a biographer's dream, because there is so much documented data to search through, from newspapers, the affidavits, the letters/correspondence, the readings themselves on file, etc, etc.

The above is not even really for you and your benefit, it's for people that actually have some open mindedness, and who are not coming at this from prejudiced, strong religious belief. By far, btw, I'm not the only one at this forum that highly respects the Cayce works. There are a number of long time members here that also find it very helpful, accurate, etc.

While I also consider Yeshua my teacher, we are on very different ends/spectrum of followers. The fact that you call him Jesus and not Yeshua is interesting to me, because that is a made up name, and isn't even close phonetically to the one he had/used in his life.

Granted, I don't think he cares what you or anyone calls him, however, like I've said before, if one has a friend who say was born in Puerto Rico with the name Jose and you were born on the mainland--you don't start calling him Joe because it's more convenient and familiar to you. Personally, it seems kind of disrespectful to me.

As to Leo, well yeah, you're a Leo Sun and all. I've Leo Rising, so what. No doubt the more Cancerian, Virgonian, Aquarian, and/or Scorpio types here are snickering at both of us silently, thinking something like, "those loud mouthed idiot, 'look at me!' Leo types" or something along those lines...

posted February 21, 2020 01:26 AM            

When Edgar was 6 he became very close friends and sweethearts with a girl about his same age named little Anna Seay, who was his neighbor. Even after they moved a couple of handful of miles away about a year or so later, Edgar and Anna kept in touch. Edgar loved little Anna dearly-she was his best friend, and he also fell in love with her as they grew older (they apparently became fairly sexual at a fairly young age).

When they were about 12, during winter time, Anna became very sick. Edgar heard about it and determined that he had to see her because he was worried she might die. Problem was, this winter had been hard and there was a lot of snow fall, and so he had to trudge the couple handful of miles to see her.

By the time he got there, he had been too late. Anna had already died. Edgar was doubly devastated--both by her death and that he wasn't able to say goodbye. Her father who had been taking care of her, died the next day, which was also hard for him, because he liked her father a lot too. He was one of the few adults that didn't treat Edgar like he was a weirdo and some strange being to be avoided, and he was very understanding of little Anna and his deep connection.

Edgar's mother's death when Edgar was around 49, was also a very difficult experience for him, as he and his mother were quite close.

Not directly related, but kind of interesting. Some 40+ years later after Anna died, Edgar had a young woman named Beatrice Coffing who lived in CA with her fiance Richmond Seay, request medical readings for her fiance and his increasing glaucoma/blindness. He had been to several doctors and specialists and they were not able to help him.

Edgar's reading for him helped him tremendously. As this young man was a musician and music teacher, to some extent he relied on his eyesight to read music, etc. It had been getting to the point where he wasn't able to drive anymore. The woman was so impressed, and she was metaphysically and spiritually inclined anyways, she requested Life readings for her and her fiance.

She didn't know it at the time of receiving her life readings, but her other life influences included several parallel time-places/cycles with Edgars. Also interesting is that Richmond was said to have been Beatrice's father in a just previous life. Note Richmond's last name...

Both Beatrice and Richmond were so grateful in general, and especially for the medical help that Edgar had given them, that they decided to drive to VA from CA to thank Edgar in person. Edgar and them had been in some correspondence, but Edgar kept very quiet about any possible past life connections.

When Beatrice pulled up in the car and got out, Edgar was waiting outside, and as soon as he saw her, he started balling--could barely speak, and just kept whispering over and over, "little Anna...it's true..it's true". Beatrice was not ready for the deluge of emotion that Edgar was expressing, but she reported that ever since she heard his name, she had felt a kinship with him.

When they sat down and talked, and Edgar explained all the references in the readings, Beatrice began to understand what seeing her meant to him. Even Edgar's family hadn't know about little Anna. It was a very painful part of his life that he had kept close to his heart.

Beatrice, Edgar, and Richmond soon became fast and devoted friends. Edgar pretty much straight up told Richmond that he was in love with his wife (they got married at some point during this), and Richmond was amazingly understanding of the deep, flirty, and platonically romantic connection between them. The letters between Beatrice and Edgar are pretty amusing at times. He even told Edgar in a letter that if Edgar had no place to go, he could move in with them.

My very strong feeling is that Edgar and Richmond were two Souls that were part of the same half of Spirit, and that Gladys Davis, Edgar's secretary and Twin Soul, and Beatrice/Anna were also part of the other half of the same Spirit--i.e. Edgar and Richmond were Twin Souls with Gladys and Anna/Beatrice.

About 3 years into their newly found friendship, Edgar got very sick, and went away to try to recuperate. Beatrice didn't live too far from where Edgar had gone, but she didn't know he was there, and thought he was still in Virginia Beach. But she sensed that his end was near, and she and Richmond had left to drive to Virginia Beach to say their goodbyes. Meanwhile, Edgar was starting to get transported back, and he asked the driver to stop at Beatrice's house to say goodbye, because he knew he was going to die, but they were not home.