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Topic: Pluto/ Saturn transits and people they bring
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Librapurr
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posted February 21, 2020 04:12 PM
  
If you have Pluto/Saturn transits to personal planets (especially, hard ones), and people are coming to your life with their Pluto/Saturn aspecting your personal planets. Would it be the sign they’re here up to not good, to teach you those hard Pluto/Saturn lessons? Maybe, it’s better keep away from them? Or accept these lessons? IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted February 21, 2020 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
If you have Pluto/Saturn transits to personal planets (especially, hard ones), and people are coming to your life with their Pluto/Saturn aspecting your personal planets. Would it be the sign they’re here up to not good, to teach you those hard Pluto/Saturn lessons? Maybe, it’s better keep away from them? Or accept these lessons?
I don't believe in lessons, but I do believe in clarity. So perhaps prima facie "lessons" are learned that bring clarity? People mistake standing still with "peace" and moving forward with "asking for trouble".
You have little choice in the matter when It comes to growth. A child has no choice but to get up and start walking, tripping over and falling. They can't "delay" or "avoid" the process by sitting down. If you attract Saturn/Cap or 10th house strong people in your life, you are looking to form strong boundaries and put your big boy boots on. I think this transit can be especially profound for someone who doesn't have much Saturn energy in their chart. I went through this transit in 2019 and right now it doesn't touch any personal planets. The "Sat" people I had to interact with were my lecturers. I was busy completing my studies last year. Pluto just brought an incredible momentum.of anger/shame and all sorts of other feelings.
No Scorpio people to speak of at all. With the Pluto transit, I have kept more to myself. I haven't been out to visit anyone since Jan 5 2020. Been locked up indoors and minding my own. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted February 21, 2020 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
If you have Pluto/Saturn transits to personal planets (especially, hard ones), and people are coming to your life with their Pluto/Saturn aspecting your personal planets. Would it be the sign they’re here up to not good, to teach you those hard Pluto/Saturn lessons? Maybe, it’s better keep away from them? Or accept these lessons?
People turn their lives around all the time. Think Saturn return. The other way can also be true. Think Meth addict. So we can look one way on paper and have a reality of another. I associate the Vertex with meeting people. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted February 22, 2020 09:26 AM
This **** is happening on my Cap Moon 5H op Saturn (and cancer planets) and it hasn’t brought a single person into my life, that I know of! Quite the opposite. I repel people and am quite happy about it!!IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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posted February 22, 2020 01:55 PM
Saturn and Pluto are on my Midheavan right now, particularly Pluto. Leading up, I’ve been going through my Saturn return the past few years also, so I’ve been feeling it’s affects for some time. Def themes around my career, as well as activation of my 9th house stellium and 7 planet t square involving the 3rd and 6th house. I’d say a lot of mental strain and revaluation, like a lot of compulsive habits mentallly that are stiffly that I’ve been needing to confront again. Lots of fear/depression/anxiety on where I’m going in life. I was teaching in preschools for most of my twenties, finally quit all together with my Saturn return, moved out of my old home of 5 years. Had a very unstable living situation for a bit, health issues with my ovaries popped up more than normal. Have hopped around job wise, from painting being able to traveling around to the mountains and lakes which was awesome and very relaxing for me. Then got a job making knives which turned into the true Pluto theme of having a Co worker sabotage me and have the work environment be rather toxic. So then I went back to painting in the mountains. Only to finally have landed a stellar job as a professional jeweler. Which by the way, the entire time of this “searching” I’ve been making $$ on the side with my jewelry, art and astrology. So through all of this the outcome was one pro jeweler job, but also got an opportunity to teach some basic astrology classes which is another exciting step for me this year. The pressure has been intense but I think through a lot of isolation and trying to heal and deal with my dark times it’s ironically incredibly empowering feeling and like there’s nothing to lose. People wise, friends have come and gone. Family themes of Pluto are highlighted, a lot of clarity and exposing of dark family pasts, which by theme my family is Plutonian. Different mentors, some great new friends, some who just don’t like me and want to battle me along the way too.
Also, I don’t know if this is relevant to anyone else, but I had 2 pets die. Raising dogs have been a huge change for me since I’ve never had dogs just cats. But I helped my dad raise 2 dogs last year, lil pups and totally fell in love with our black border collie/German Shepard named hekate. Such an amazing dog, I don’t even know how to go into how much beautiful memories were created with this creature and how unconditionally loving she was.. but right when Pluto contacted my midheavan she was hit by a car and died really violently. It was one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve had to deal with considering I raised our other dog odin with her and they were best friends, and how close my dad got with her too and seeing him so sad was terrible.. as he’s single and very wild (sun conjunct mars/mercury 1st house, Pluto conjunct ascendent, Aries moon ) it was devastating and I miss her every single day. Another cat we had for years also died in a rather sad way. I have talked to so many friends or people and they have also had their pets die?! But anyways, it makes me extremely fearful to lose anyone I love :’( I get really paranoid sometimes and like everyday is a gift and I just have to have everyone know how much I love them! Seriously think about death waaay too much, as in my health, my own mortality, and not wanting to every loose anyone close to me, especially my parents and family. But it ultimately ties into my own philosophies and the way I treat others and live my life.. I guess tying into my 9th house, since my Capricorn midheavan is placed in the 9th house wit Saturn. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted February 22, 2020 01:58 PM
LOL at Charlie. You're a hoot. IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted February 22, 2020 05:33 PM
Maybe, I put too negative attitude towards transits. I might be coming out more efficient person even from difficult ones. However, the planets could teach us in more peaceful/ positive way. Here’s too much of tough love.
In opposite, some of my transits forced me to be more sociable contrary to my desire. I think a part of the lesson to become more Libra😉
Around my Saturn return I got a man who put Saturn sextile and square to my personal planets. It ended up to be the good one. I learned a lot about relationships. And he might have Chiron/AC transits, and my Chiron touches his AC.
The Pluto transit brought a guy with bunch of Pluto. And a lot of negative emotions. And it probably the worst person I’ve ever liked. It did make me stronger, but I’m afraid I learned something bad/ dark in it...
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Librapurr
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posted February 22, 2020 05:59 PM
BeholdAstarte, lose pets sometimes equally hard as people. I had time in my childhood when several of my pets died or disappeared. I don’t remember exactly the time, but probably when transit Pluto/ Saturn and/or moon/Pluto. It was very traumatizing. Also, It brought much fear related to people for a very long time.
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Stawr
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posted February 23, 2020 02:10 PM
Good question! I think both of your questions are a yes answer.
22 degree Aries Sun
24 degree Capricorn Saturn.I am watching the planets like a hawk! It's brought in people that try my life that I have to deal with at work. I've been dealing with condescending and/or overbearing coworkers/supervisors/assistants since 2015.
(side note Neptune is my 10th house square my asc and right after this transit was the pluto saturn stuff)
I will say all of it has been motivation to have more career options. If it was not for these f()(k+@rd$ getting in my face, I would totally just be comfortable being an assistant teacher for 11 an hour right now. The universe wants me to do more than that, okay fine I'll make more money.
My boss pushed me to the point of being done with college faster. I'll be done in the summer instead of the fall now. My boss seems to have this vendetta towards me this year. When she compliments me for something not being my idea. Which is something she wants me to do, and told me to do. I want to tell her to "kiss my ass" I thank her awkwardly...like how is this a compliment? I want to Sparta kick her into a pit for her bias and stupidity. Like it broke me down in January how much my boss was antagonizing me. No one likes to feel like "I've worked so hard to get here and I'm being treated like sh1+." Oh my gosh my Aries Sun is like please no more sh1+ in Capricorn. Anytime something in Capricorn close to 22 degrees it pretty much means boss is going to get in my face and start sh1+ with me. I feel the difference with Saturn being 27 degrees in Capricorn now. Oh my god I did a happy dance when Pluto moved to 23 degrees.(24 now woot-woot!!) But this Mars and Jupiter creeping up is going to be a gang-bang. But at least those Planets will move a little faster, but I still have the intensity of Saturn and Pluto to add to it. the beginning of March is going to trrrrryy me. After going through all of this though I feel like I am going to have an easier time shutting down a$$ho13$ faster. Uranus will conjunct my 11 degree Mercury Taurus after all in the coming years. *BTW my Libra boss opposes my Sun, squares my Saturn, but trines my Mars(I mean she hired me after all lol)
*Last year I had an annoying assistant who I had to use reverse psychology on to get her to do what I say. She was a Scorpio.
*I worked with the meanest lady ever from 2016-18. She was a Taurus. She yelled at me, told me off, my existence p!ssed her off. Went out of her way to tell me she was above me and I was below her even though we had the same job title. I had to remind her that she wasn't my supervisor tactfully. The most hostile work environment I've ever experienced. The Leo supervisor has a reputation to looking the other way to this Taurus' hostility. Another lady with the same job title as me and bully Taurus seemed so unhappy and like she hated everyone and wanted to keep to her self. She turned on me in my second year, tried to start a rumor that I was on my phone the whole time once. Luckily someone else stood up for me and told her off for lying. The director/Principal was a deceptive Pisces. Does not tell people who interview that it is a Muslim school until we start training. Talked about me being promoted, and someday moving classrooms. Then I found out she wasn't going to let me move classrooms. She did not know how to handle co-worker conflict. She made staff have "peace meetings" that did not improve anything.
*2015-16: other assistants tried to warn me about working with a certain teacher. Equinox Aries I will call her. Her Sun squared my Jupiter in Cancer. Yeah...she was pretty much a narcissist. "Me-me-me." No empathy for others. Behaved like she did not want me to succeed in college. Wanted me to come in a day I did not work. I actually said no because of college. Pretty much told me I can't say no because me-me-meeee! I reported her. This stupid (un+ actually text me that I have work I day I'm not scheduled. I reported her when she went on maternity leave, and showed the director the text as evidence. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted February 23, 2020 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by charlie:
This **** is happening on my Cap Moon 5H op Saturn (and cancer planets) and it hasn’t brought a single person into my life, that I know of! Quite the opposite. I repel people and am quite happy about it!!
I'm kind of jealous! IP: Logged |
firemoon
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posted February 24, 2020 02:38 AM
I actually have nothing but gratitude for my Pluto conjunct Sun transit. Pluto provided the "crises" I needed to change, it tore the mask of my ego down to the ground along with everything else that was no longer working.. With sun in 7th I experienced many "deaths" of my old relationships and the identities I carried with each. So it started out very vulnerable and isolated. But I do feel I'm able to embody my authentic self now know my own power now in ways I never have before. Some people may perceive that as arrogance, but I'm fully aware of what a fine line it is to walk between confidence/real self esteem and false pride. The trials and tribulations of Saturn are another story.. the increased hardships really didn't start until November and centered around a relationship drama (literally the only enduring one I've had, with a 22 degree Cancer Sun guy I've been seeing on/off for years). Some difficult truths are out in the open now and this marks a breaking point of the Plutonian secrets, fear, control themes.. I don't know what the future entails but I don't think karma is finished with us yet. It's been a catalyst for me to go deeper into my own healing and I'll soon be acting as a "mirror" to others through counseling (7th house fate maybe.. I wasn't planning on that one). Also, I no longer think "Scorpio type" guys are hot or mysterious.. I can spot their manipulative games from a mile away if they have any, and no one is going to keep me on a leash. Sorry not sorry for that lol IP: Logged | |
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