posted February 27, 2020 10:40 AM            

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posted February 27, 2020 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I wonder about this a lot but the house is not as strong as the planet in the sign.

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Okay, thank you. I was curious because my boyfriend has a 9” orb Aries Venus-Mars conjunction, and has never been one to chase a woman. His Venus is in the 5th House, and his Mars is in the 4th House. He’s a Scorpio Rising, Pisces Sun-Mercury, and Aquarius Moon.

posted February 27, 2020 11:33 PM            

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I have Venus taurus in my 1st house, yes my style and persona do have some taurus vibe im them

posted February 28, 2020 12:28 AM            

Then think of a Planet being highlighted, such as in the 1st or Angular and in major aspect to the Asc, as like an intense spotlight of a specific color. In Mars case, very red. Now this red can range from dark, leaden red, to basic red (most common), to a more rosey red.

The Sign backdrop can shift and subtly shade the Planetary energy, but generally the Planetry energy dominates over the Sign. It's much more concentrated, bright, and intense.

This is why people with Planets in the 1st, conjunct the Asc, and/or closest Planet to Asc, can rightly be called Solarians, Jupitarians, Neptunians, Uranians, Venusians, Mercurians, Plutonians, Lunar/Moon folks, Martians, or Saturians.

And most people under this general condition, will have certain core traits in common. I know several people that have Venus as the predominant Planet in their chart, and despite that various different Signs are involved, they all have strong similarities. They are all into visual art and/or music, they are all quite relationship and interpersonal focused, they all tends towards a certain harmony of attunement and expression i.e. tend to be kind, giving, considerate, all really love and appreciate nature, etc, etc.

Even in the case of my friend who has Venus in Aries and very early Taurus Rising strongly cusping Aries. She is not nearly as self centered as someone with strong Aries and Taurus tends to be. (Pisces Sun also helps, but a good chunk is the predominant Venus).

So yes, someone with Mars in the 1st, especially if it is the Planet closest to the Asc, is going to have a very powerful Mars attunement and expression, whatever the Sign that the Mars is placed in. Yes, some Signs may tone it down some, like Pisces or Virgo, but they will still be powerfully Martian in nature.

It is by far, stronger than Mars in Aries in and of itself. Obviously it gets more complicated, complex, and/or relative if there are two or more Planets in the 1st etc, especially if they are conjunct. Then one has to figure out which is the strongest of those. Often it's the Planet closest to the Asc, but that can be offset/counter balanced by other conditions such as the other Planet being in it's own Sign, or the Planet closest to the Asc being in detriment, etc.

But the general gist of the above is more or less basic astrology. Not quite astrology 101, but more like 102. Read some of the classics like Isabel M. Hickey, Stephen Arroyo, Sakoian and Acker, Llewellyn, etc.

posted February 28, 2020 12:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Loveher:
In my opinion no and yes depends if mars is 1st house was in arise too or different sign

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I have Venus taurus in my 1st house, yes my style and persona do have some taurus vibe im them

My sister for ex has sun Aries in 1st house pieces she acts like pieces not like Aries nor Leo

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While not everyone lives up to it, the Sun is potentially a very fast vibratory/expanded symbol, and more so than even violet/purple Pisces. When Sun is used and expressed "as is", it corresponds to golden Light in the aura i.e. rather unusually spiritually intune, loving, etc type people.

It's a like a higher octave of Leo, which is like a high orange i.e. yellowish orange or orangey yellow.

Golden Light on the other hand, is a damped down, less intense version of White Light (pure, universal, unconditional Love i.e. the love of Source and of Christ Consciousness), blended with yellow of the mind.

Not a lot of people have a lot of golden light in their aura. Perhaps not too surprisingly, the Dali Lama, who has Sun closest to his Asc, has a fair amount of golden light in his aura. However, this doesn't mean that he is fully and completely enLightened.

A person will have a completely pure White/clear Light aura when they are truly and fully enlightened. I have not yet met someone like this in this lifetime. One of my other Soul selves, Lucius, met a person like this in their lifetime--Yeshua (aka "Jesus").

Well in any case, the above is the ideal when Sun is very strong in the chart. Only a certain percentage of people actually live up to this in their lifetime, because it's a rather expanded and fast vibratory level. They may have intiially come in from the dimension/consciousness level that the Sun represents i.e. full conscious awareness of their Spirit self and quite Love attuned (though not fully/completely), but it is quite EASY to get warped in this world, once here in the nitty gritty of being a human.

Many a Helper has come in and lost their way, and sometimes majorly. Many an ET has come in and started to get stuck in a cycle of negative karma.

It's like that whole, "The Sons of God looked upon the daughters of men, found them fair, and came into them" type pattern and archetype. I know this very well, because I'm one of those "fallen" ones. "You have set before you good and evil, choose". It's easy to choose the more limiting and distorted path here.

Why, because the collective resonation is that towards rebellion to Love and the Creative Forces/Consciousness. This is one of the messiest and most stubborn "schools" in all of the Universe. And yet, humans have great potential. There have been so many tweaks and adjustments here by the Creative Forces, by the very Co-Creator of the Soul of this world itself, and yet humanity in a collective sense has much growing up to do.

posted February 28, 2020 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I don’t think I’m “more Aquarius” because my Cancer Sun is in 11H or someone with Sun in 4H is not more Cancer than I am.

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posted February 28, 2020 03:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Okay, thank you. I was curious because my boyfriend has a 9” orb Aries Venus-Mars conjunction, and has never been one to chase a woman. His Venus is in the 5th House, and his Mars is in the 4th House. He’s a Scorpio Rising, Pisces Sun-Mercury, and Aquarius Moon.

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Mars in 4th is an interesting mix. The assertive energy of Mars is expressed in a manner to either conserve emotional security on one hand.

Or one feels the need to be emotionally transparent through dialogue on the other I.e one on one intimate conversation and the desire to expose(Mars) what is going on within(4th).

Ven in 5th suggests that he may feel the attraction and really want to act on it. But there is Mars in 4th which can also be self protective.

So it's like "I am really attracted to you. But you could reject me." Whereas the others with this mix could be like "I am really attracted to you. And I will let you know what is going on within me. What the depth and extent of that attraction feels like to me." Etc.

Is he very forward with feelings within the relationship? Or the type of guy who will tell you what he is feeling at any given time?

I think Mars in 4th gets more assertive, the more secure they feel. The extent of their assertiveness actually also depends on whom they perceive you to be.

In other words,the more instantly secure they feel around you,the more assertive and even boisterous they can get. But they won't do this with everyone(its very context based)

You are very familiar to him with your Can Rising, Ven and Mars. I wonder if he was more upfront with you at the onset of you guys dating I.e more assertive perhaps?

posted February 28, 2020 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Did you grow up/were raised by a dominant parent? Do you feel like you are more at ease with family or that your personality comes out more?

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I’m not a “family person” with my closest family and neither of my parents were particularly dominant.

I have always trusted my surroundings to fill my “needs” and I have no problems finding “family” wherever I go.

posted February 28, 2020 05:04 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I’m not a “family person” with my closest family and neither of my parents were particularly dominant.

I have always trusted my surroundings to fill my “needs” and I have no problems finding “family” wherever I go.

As for my personality coming out it’s actually the opposite of what you asked! I can be extremely open, goofy with strangers but as soon as things become deeper (like with family), I tend to take a step back. I don’t like being questioned as to why I behave in a certain way or think certain thoughts. I like to be spontaneous and not bogged down by being “poked at”.

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Oh ok that's interesting. What aspects are made to the Sun? What house does the Sun rule?Are there other planets in the 4th?

I have Sun in 9th for instance & I feel like when I'm in an atmosphere where I can touch ground with others intellectually, I am in heaven.

I am here often enough sharing what I think and absolutely love engagement.

But admittedly,I am also an intensely private personality.I dont post many pics of myself on Facebook or on other social sites.I hesitate to post one even on this site.

My Sun is conjunct Neptune 0.05 orb. It is very tight orb. And Neptune also in the 9th.

Neptune rules the 12th.Sun conjunct Jup too and Jup is also the traditional ruler of the 12th. So either way, it points to a private personality.

Sun in 4th is private. That makes sense. But I also see Sun in 4th as the type who wants to have their own home where THEY are the boss or landlord. And there is also a tendency to entertain whilst there.

I have Moon ruling the 4th house and conjunct the Ic from tje 3rd.I am also all about privacy. I don't however want people coming over to be entertained.

The Moon in 4th just wants to treat their home as a sanctuary or retreat from the world. Only those invited by invitation are welcome. Don't just rock up unannounced.

posted February 28, 2020 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
...I don’t like being questioned as to why I behave in a certain way or think certain thoughts. I like to be spontaneous and not bogged down by being “poked at”.

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This right here sounds like Ura/Jup & Nep to me.

I have Nep/Ura contra-parallel Ic & Jup quincunx Ic.

I am not close to family members at all. I prefer creating my own definition of "home".

posted February 28, 2020 03:02 PM            

Two of my friends are born a few days earlier than me, so we have different Moon signs and house placements.

I'll focus on our Venus, Mars and Jupiter in Leo square Pluto (same for all of us).
None of us is Leo like and none relates for the most part to Leo Venus and Mars.

I have the 3 Leo planets I mentioned in 2nd H, I relate to Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Taurus, unfortunately I don't relate to Mars in Leo (I don't personally care much about Venus).
Friend A has Venus, Mars and Jup in her 6th H and she is soo Virgo like, instead of her Venus and Mars behaving Leo like in 6th H matters it feels like her Venus and Mars behave Virgo like. She also doesn't relate to Leo Venus and Mars.

Friend B has Venus, Mars and Jup in her 3rd H and you probably guessed it that she is way too Gemini like (although this one has Gemini ASC too)