posted March 01, 2020 04:50 AM            

I've read that it is like a conjunction, but weaker in energy.

And if we say so, the contraparallel aspect is like an opposition?

posted March 01, 2020 07:36 PM            

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Originally posted by LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon:
What do you think of the parallel aspect? Mostly in natal charts, but in synastry too.

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They're important major aspects in both.

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I've read that it is like a conjunction, but weaker in energy.

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Generally, yes. However, it is possible for a parallel or contra-parallel that is very tight to be the strongest aspect in the birth chart (or synastry).

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And if we say so, the contraparallel aspect is like an opposition?

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Yes.

posted March 02, 2020 12:08 AM              

I have Cap Sun parallel and semi-sextile Sag. Neptune. The Sun rules my chart and so it's a particularly sensitive and receptive point of contact with other symbols/energies.

I have always felt rather Piscean in attunement. When I first started learning about astrology, I identified more with Pisces than with Capricorn in a lot of ways, and also to some extent Aquarius more than Capricorn.

The Sun in parallel with Neptune can certainly be part of that.

But to play devil's advocate for a moment. I also have angular Pisces South Node, Jupiter retrograding back into the 1st and pretty strong otherwise, and Neptune pretty strong otherwise--in 5th trine Asc and in major aspect to Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Desc. ruler, in major aspect to ruler of Moon Sign and Mid Heaven-Venus (very close aspect), and in major aspect to faster moving, traditional ruler of IC--Mars. Literally in major aspect to all 3 other Angle rulers + ruler of Moon Sign and Sun and Mercury Signs.

Hence, even without the Sun parallel Neptune aspect, the combination of the above would correlate well with an overall Piscean type attunment. So its hard to say, how much or how little the Sun parallel Neptune is contributing or not.

(As to Aquarius, ruler of Moon and Mid Heaven-Venus, is in Aquarius square Uranus, and Angular and in major aspect to the Asc, Uranus is angular and in major aspect to ruler of Sun and Mercury. And the Angular Pisces South Node is VERY closely cusping Aquarius. I.e. putting the Aqua and highlighted Uranus together equals a pretty good dose of Aquarius like attunement.)

posted March 02, 2020 12:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Venus parallel Pluto is an explanation why everybody around me are plutonic. I don’t think the other things in my chart would suggest it. I thought my progressed Venus makes me relate to Scorpio Venus description. Actually, it’s in declinations.

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posted March 02, 2020 01:07 AM              

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Originally posted by ULT12:
In my experience, H1 Planets draw out those types of people too. Even if not in aspect to the DSC/ASC the effect is there. This I've reckoned is because H1 indicates our experience on Earth/of life not just the ASC Point, so...... You have Pluto-1, don't you?

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+1

To add to the above a bit. On the deeper, nonphysical levels, Like tends to attract, beget, resonate with, and like Like.

Hence, if you have Pluto in the 1st, or otherwise quite strong, then it's natural to attract people with a similar attunment, even if it's not strongly connected to your Venus, Descendant, etc.

posted March 02, 2020 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by ULT12:
In my experience, H1 Planets draw out those types of people too. Even if not in aspect to the DSC/ASC the effect is there. This I've reckoned is because H1 indicates our experience on Earth/of life not just the ASC Point, so...... You have Pluto-1, don't you?

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
+1

To add to the above a bit. On the deeper, nonphysical levels, Like tends to attract, beget, resonate with, and like Like.

Hence, if you have Pluto in the 1st, or otherwise quite strong, then it's natural to attract people with a similar attunment, even if it's not strongly connected to your Venus, Descendant, etc.

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posted March 03, 2020 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by ULT12:
^ lol. Post your chart.

I've not extensively witnessed the H1Planets-Others Effect, I've just seen time and time again how it's true for -Pluto- (for some reason; maybe the "effect" of other planets on Earthly/life experience isn't that obvious while Pluto is a strong&forceful sonofabitch).

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Here's my chart. http://i.imgur.com/0mTUjwG.png

I have in my 1st house Mars and Neptune - good luck with that

posted March 03, 2020 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes.

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And both luminaries parallel Chiron:
Moon pll Chiron 0°42'S
Sun pll Chiron 0°32' A

This looks hurtful as well :\

Furthermore, Jupiter contraparallel Venus (0°06'A) is worrying to me since I also have Jup - Ven opposition natally ... does this work as a double opposition? I'm confused.

posted March 03, 2020 12:13 PM              

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
On the other side, it could be a bad pattern. We’re attracted to the familiar. But if it has some similar energies, it doesn’t mean it resonates.

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Imo, it's not just about attraction to the familiar. When our bodies die, most of us (unless we get stuck in relation to the physical), our Souls/nonphysical consciousness phases to the nonphysical dimension wherein our core/real self MOST vibrates/resonates to.

Everyone in that dimension/nonphysical level/consciousness state is similar to us in core ways. They have similar beliefs, similar ideals, similar feelings, and choose/act similarly. We are most immediately and consciously aware of those individuals that are in the same dimension as us. These different dimensions can be correlated with the Planets in a symbolic sense.

This level of "Soul attraction" is going on while we are phased in this dimension--that of the mixing of a spectrum. However, it doesn't seem as obvious or as apparent as it does while we are focused in the general nonphysical. There are other "rules" and "reactions" that take place here in this dimension, such as opposites attract or the necessity to work out karma that was generated in the physical. Hence, most of us end up interacting with a pretty broad range of spectrum of consciousness. However, what about the people closest to us?

I have very strong Jupiter. Some of the people that I am closest to in my life, likewise have very strong Jupiter--even though Jupiter is not directly connected to my Venus or Desc. It's that more general and broad based type of Soul attraction going on.

For a few examples: my spouse has her chart ruler, conjunct Jupiter with less than a degree of separation. A good friend of mine has her Jupiter as the Planet closest to her Asc. My full brother, whom I closer to than anyone else in my family, has very strong Jupiter, since it's in it's own Sign, Angular, and in sextile to his ruling Planet.

posted March 03, 2020 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon:

I am also noticing I have both my luminaries contraparallel Saturn:
Moon cpl Sat 0°04'A
Sun cpl Sat 0°14' S

Are these like oppositions? Ouch!

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Yes -- but you'll want to switch to topocentric positions to get a more accurate declination for the Moon, which will change that orb.

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And both luminaries parallel Chiron:
Moon pll Chiron 0°42'S
Sun pll Chiron 0°32' A

This looks hurtful as well :\

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Then stop thinking of wounds. Chiron is healer. The wounds are what urge us towards learning healing. Chiron is a transition factor to help us get over limited notion of self and step towards the transpersonal (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto). We all need healing of some kind and the more we understand of it the more we find what we have in common with others of all backgrounds. It teaches the value of kindness and compassion.

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Furthermore, Jupiter contraparallel Venus (0°06'A) is worrying to me since I also have Jup - Ven opposition natally ... does this work as a double opposition? I'm confused.

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None of this should worry you. Yes, the Venus opposition to Jupiter is reinforced by the two of them also being in close contra-parallel. That makes it an important aspect in your chart with lessons related to finding balance between the pleasure/love principle (Venus) and the expansion/growth principle (Jupiter), which can mean learning how to be appropriately helpful and when indulgence (of self or others) goes too far; learning to let go of compensating in favor of indulging others or saying 'yes' when it may be more appropriate to say 'no.' This is not a bad aspect: two benefics in aspect like this generally just indicates needing to learn how you can have too much of even a good thing (like helpful intentions).

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I try to console myself with my Sun parallel Moon (0°10'S) hoping the orb is tight enough to be meaningful

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Yes, it is no matter what the actual orb is when you use the topocentric positions. That aspect is one of passion and determination -- your ability to set your consciousness to something and follow through; also creative leanings. However, it does not have the full force of a new moon (Moon conjunct Sun). It just shows that there is an internal unity between your feelings and will power once you set your mind to something. The drawback can be developing too narrow a mindset and needing to be more receptive to others. But the good part is the stability and practicality of Moon in Taurus is brought into harmonious, supportive relation to the passion/drive of Sun in Leo.

posted March 04, 2020 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Imo, it's not just about attraction to the familiar. When our bodies die, most of us (unless we get stuck in relation to the physical), our Souls/nonphysical consciousness phases to the nonphysical dimension wherein our core/real self MOST vibrates/resonates to.

Everyone in that dimension/nonphysical level/consciousness state is similar to us in core ways. They have similar beliefs, similar ideals, similar feelings, and choose/act similarly. We are most immediately and consciously aware of those individuals that are in the same dimension as us. These different dimensions can be correlated with the Planets in a symbolic sense.

This level of "Soul attraction" is going on while we are phased in this dimension--that of the mixing of a spectrum. However, it doesn't seem as obvious or as apparent as it does while we are focused in the general nonphysical. There are other "rules" and "reactions" that take place here in this dimension, such as opposites attract or the necessity to work out karma that was generated in the physical. Hence, most of us end up interacting with a pretty broad range of spectrum of consciousness. However, what about the people closest to us?

I have very strong Jupiter. Some of the people that I am closest to in my life, likewise have very strong Jupiter--even though Jupiter is not directly connected to my Venus or Desc. It's that more general and broad based type of Soul attraction going on.

For a few examples: my spouse has her chart ruler, conjunct Jupiter with less than a degree of separation. A good friend of mine has her Jupiter as the Planet closest to her Asc. My full brother, whom I closer to than anyone else in my family, has very strong Jupiter, since it's in it's own Sign, Angular, and in sextile to his ruling Planet.

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posted March 04, 2020 12:49 PM              

Ask these and/or your Expanded self level, "what's up with me being involved with so many heavy Plutonian types?" Well maybe frame it a little more seriously than "what's up with".

Pay attention to any out of the blue thoughts, feelings, visuals, etc that don't feel self generated, or to dreams or synchronicity with others later if you don't get an immediate answer/feedback. There are many different ways that guidance tries to communicate with us. And it does so in the way that is most helpful/effective for us at the time.

I've experienced the whole gamut of guidance communication from a knowing-feeling impression, to a flash of a visual, to a waking dream, to seemingly hearing something, to dreams that spoke clearly to the question/issue, to way above chance life or synchronicity with others, etc. A good number of these with some verification (which I think is important to stay grounded/balanced during the opening up process. We don't want to go too far to Neptune and the Moon, and start believing in any and everything that strikes our fancy).

Perhaps one of the oddest guidance communications was the following. At the Gateway Voyage program at The Monroe Institute, it was suggested that we ask some questions of our guidance. I couldn't think of anything (again), so I asked to be shown something helpful.

When I got deep in meditation, much to a surprise, I felt a sudden, sharp pain in my right foot. WTF, what is guidance trying to tell me, that I need more humility ala Pisces or something?! No idea what it meant or if it meant anything.

Later on that day, partner and I decided to take a walk down to beautiful Lake Miranon for a swim. As it was a really nice day, and was feeling very intune, and the grass looked SOOO inviting, I took my shoes off to walk barefoot.

On the way back, did the same. As the grass was kind of tallish in some areas, the ground wasn't always fully visible. This became apparent when all of a sudden I stepped on a thorn which punctured my right foot in the exact same place that earlier in the meditation I had experienced a sudden, sharp pain.

There was no deep, life changing message there, but guidance was telling me that it was extremely aware of probable future timelines, and perhaps teaching me a little something about the nature of time in general. That's its not necessarily something completely linear and perhaps more of a human construct/perceptual structure.

posted March 04, 2020 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Hmmm, don't specifically know in your case, but it would be a good question to take to expanded guidance under more ideal conditions during deep meditation.

Ask these and/or your Expanded self level, "what's up with me being involved with so many heavy Plutonian types?" Well maybe frame it a little more seriously than "what's up with".

Pay attention to any out of the blue thoughts, feelings, visuals, etc that don't feel self generated, or to dreams or synchronicity with others later if you don't get an immediate answer/feedback. There are many different ways that guidance tries to communicate with us. And it does so in the way that is most helpful/effective for us at the time.

I've experienced the whole gamut of guidance communication from a knowing-feeling impression, to a flash of a visual, to a waking dream, to seemingly hearing something, to dreams that spoke clearly to the question/issue, to way above chance life or synchronicity with others, etc. A good number of these with some verification (which I think is important to stay grounded/balanced during the opening up process. We don't want to go too far to Neptune and the Moon, and start believing in any and everything that strikes our fancy).

Perhaps one of the oddest guidance communications was the following. At the Gateway Voyage program at The Monroe Institute, it was suggested that we ask some questions of our guidance. I couldn't think of anything (again), so I asked to be shown something helpful.

When I got deep in meditation, much to a surprise, I felt a sudden, sharp pain in my right foot. WTF, what is guidance trying to tell me, that I need more humility ala Pisces or something?! No idea what it meant or if it meant anything.

Later on that day, partner and I decided to take a walk down to beautiful Lake Miranon for a swim. As it was a really nice day, and was feeling very intune, and the grass looked SOOO inviting, I took my shoes off to walk barefoot.

On the way back, did the same. As the grass was kind of tallish in some areas, the ground wasn't always fully visible. This became apparent when all of a sudden I stepped on a thorn which punctured my right foot in the exact same place that earlier in the meditation I had experienced a sudden, sharp pain.

There was no deep, life changing message there, but guidance was telling me that it was extremely aware of probable future timelines, and perhaps teaching me a little something about the nature of time in general. That's its not necessarily something completely linear and perhaps more of a human construct/perceptual structure.

Believe you can communicate with guidance, be open minded and hearted to it, and you will be able to.

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posted March 15, 2020 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes, it is no matter what the actual orb is when you use the topocentric positions. That aspect is one of passion and determination -- your ability to set your consciousness to something and follow through; also creative leanings. However, it does not have the full force of a new moon (Moon conjunct Sun). It just shows that there is an internal unity between your feelings and will power once you set your mind to something. The drawback can be developing too narrow a mindset and needing to be more receptive to others. But the good part is the stability and practicality of Moon in Taurus is brought into harmonious, supportive relation to the passion/drive of Sun in Leo.

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