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posted March 04, 2020 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Learning About Interceptions
by Alice Miller

"If you are one of life’s misfits, never entirely comfortable in your birth family or with people in your age group, you may have an intercepted chart.

If you can never figure out what should keep and what to throw away–not just things, but sometimes relationships, jobs, etc., you may have an interception.

If you could never make sense of the beliefs of people close to you, if you grew up in an environment where your actions did not bring dependable reactions, or where you could not figure out what you did to cause the things that happened to you, you probably have an interception.

All of the above refer to the interception of a pair of opposite signs. If you have a chart in which two pairs of houses have the same signs on the cusps, and one pair of signs that show up on no cusps, you have an interception. Such chart areas are submerged beneath the surface for a significant part of your lifetime. Only when the time is right–do they emerge as a source of power. Until they do, it is common for us to attract people who sense that power and assume that we will do with it, what they would do with it, if it were theirs. From this can come some very unexpected reactions and responses, including various types of attacks, most often designed to drain our energy and/or our finances.

While some intercepted areas are empty, most have one or more planets caught within them. Occasionally we see the nodal axis intercepted, and rarely, the Part of Fortune. These further complicate the chart. Not only do they behave differently from the norm, they also affect the signs which they rule, making them seem partially or wholly intercepted as well.

Perhaps the most important single attribute of interceptions is that they mark individuals born outside the general consciousness. Something about natives is an unknown in the early environment. What they were born to be is often something unknown or unaccepted in that environment. That makes it hard to discover, simply because it is an unknown possibility. In our first book, we often referred to such natives as Starseed, in deference to a term coming into acceptance at the time. In reality, each such individual is intended to join the ranks of the group that is birthing, midwifeing, bringing in the next age. Each has some contribution to make to the raising of human consciousness. Most have the appearance of one who incarnates from the future, or from some different planet, system, or dimension. All are somewhat Aquarian in nature.

At the beginning of my astrologcial studies in 1976, I was confronted with an interception in my own natal chart. That interception also contained my Sun and Mercury. It soon because clear that my Aries Sun did not entirely fit the descriptions of the sign, and my Mercury sounded more Sagittarian than Aries. So began my quest to discover what it meant to have part of your natal chart intercepted." ... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001416.html


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posted March 04, 2020 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) If ... cusp sign duplicated on houses A and B (and, A+6 and B+6) ... signs X and X+6 intercepted ... Then, "an issue in houses A (and A+6) is adversely affecting the activities of houses B (and B+6), in a way that - until resolved - prevents the positive qualities of signs X and X+6 (+ any planets within them) from being used effectively".

[For example ... Aries on 1st + 2nd houses ... Libra on 7th + 8th houses ... Cancer and Capricorn intercepted = "an issue in houses 1 and 7 is adversely affecting the activities of houses 2 and 8, in a way that - until resolved - prevents the positive qualities of Cancer and Capricorn (+ any planets within them) from being used effectively".]

2) That issue will have its roots in childhood, probably as a conditioned belief learned from a parent, teacher or other respected figure of authority.

3) The conditioned belief is unlikely to have ever been challenged/questioned by the chart owner - because, to him/her, it will always have seemed right/correct.

[For example, I was raised with the Piscean Age believe that "a person should always put the needs of others before his/her own" - and never questioned it until the age of 40+]

4) That conditioned belief will no longer be appropriate for the Aquarian Age.

[For example, mine had to change to "a person should always put first the most important needs of the group, including his/her own". ... Since not doing so had brought me to the brink of a physical breakdown that, ultimately, would have left me unable to help anyone -including myself.]

5) Updating that conditioned belief to reflect Aquarian Age values will automatically result in the effective use of the qualities of intercepted signs (and any planets within them).

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posted March 04, 2020 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

5) Updating that conditioned belief to reflect Aquarian Age values will automatically result in the effective use of the qualities of intercepted signs (and any planets within them).


Aquarian Values.. of Peace & Love & Harmony among this Group we call 'The Human Race'.

Neighbor caring in practical (virgo) ways for their Neighbor.

Virgo Moon is intercepted in the 9th House LEO.
Aquarius Third House Cusp, Pisces intercepted.

Uranus in H8 Cancer
.. conjunct Jupiter Cancer
.. Sag Rising w Jupiter ruler of Sag
…..and Jupiter natural ruler of 9th
Uranus-Jupiter sextile Moon

Neptune r Libra H10
Venus Taurus H5taur
Venus quintile Uranus

(music) When He Shines (Sheena Easton) [4:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZN_e6plAE

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posted March 05, 2020 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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caring ... in practical ways.

Caring = Piscean Age value ... in practical ways = Aquarian Age value.

Thank you, mirage ... and for the Sheena Easton song that I have never heard before.

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posted March 05, 2020 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any comments on the issue of interceptions in extreme northern or southern latitudes? My father has half the signs intercepted for instance (using Placidus)... His Ascendant is in late Sagittarius, 2nd house cusp in early Pisces and 3rd house cusp in early Taurus. And his 6th/12th house axis spans a grand total of 8 degrees each. That sort of chart isn't at all uncommon here.

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posted March 05, 2020 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
1) If ... cusp sign duplicated on houses A and B (and, A+6 and B+6) ... signs X and X+6 intercepted ... Then, "an issue in houses A (and A+6) is adversely affecting the activities of houses B (and B+6), in a way that - until resolved - prevents the positive qualities of signs X and X+6 (+ any planets within them) from being used effectively".

[For example ... Aries on 1st + 2nd houses ... Libra on 7th + 8th houses ... Cancer and Capricorn intercepted = "an issue in houses 1 and 7 is adversely affecting the activities of houses 2 and 8, in a way that - until resolved - prevents the positive qualities of Cancer and Capricorn (+ any planets within them) from being used effectively".]

2) That issue will have its roots in childhood, probably as a conditioned belief learned from a parent, teacher or other respected figure of authority.

3) The conditioned belief is unlikely to have never been challenged/questioned by the chart owner - because, to him/her, it will always have seemed right/correct.

[For example, I was raised with the Piscean Age believe that "a person should always put the needs of others before his/her own" - and never questioned it until the age of 40+

4) That conditioned belief will no longer be appropriate for the Aquarian Age.

[For example, mine had to change to "a person should always put first the most important needs of the group, including his/her own".
... Since not doing so had brought me to the brink of a physical breakdown that, ultimately, would have left me unable to help anyone -including myself.]

5) Updating that conditioned belief to reflect Aquarian Age values will automatically result in the effective use of the qualities of intercepted signs (and any planets within them).


"No longer be appropriate

Graham..
When I had first read your post, what I perceived seemed more of a Chiron-wound than the effects of interception. Maybe both? *heart*

Chiron Capricorns … wounds received as a result of authority or govt-- the authoritarian male [or female] abuse of their positions in power-over?

So... I'm gently asking --
(I could be wrong, misperceived, Merc is retro!! LOL} (I have a Mercury dominant chart.)
.. You wrote seemed to be that in order to physically survive, you had to 'change' {broadly interpreting here} from 'being under the authority' of a father, etc, to become 'under the authority' of a hive?

Both kind of spell out that there's a powerlessness involved. You are under the control and 'will' of domineering cold ruthless outside forces? You have no Rights outside following 'the will' of another or of a group-mind.


I would greatly wish and hope that the Aquarian Age VALUES will be an evolved EXTENSION of The Piscean Age.
Pisces is the sign of fish.
We supposedly became amphibians able to maneuver selves and adapt to water or land.

The sign of Aquarius is depicted by a human being, who had fashioned a clay-vessel (replete with human faults and fails, yet still 'usable') that has been filled with the {Piscean} Waters, POURING out these Waters (of Compassion) on the rest of the world.

Without water... we get dried up. Dehydrated.

Dehydrated lands turn fallow and unable to sustain human life.

Without Human Care and interactions... a child becomes stunted emotionally. They lose the ability to bond in healthy human relationships.

In a cold atmosphere, unattached to other humans, they have NO ability to know the wholesomeness of being a man-of-the-senses. They are 'not touched'-- physically, nor emotionally. They have lost part of what it 'means' to have full potentials.
.. What you don't use, the brain will cease to nurture that area and its function. A loss happens.

When a human grows up with cold parents, it has been deprived … -- Remedy, unless that human can eventually (perhaps) find a relationship partner that can give them a taste or morsel of what Care is about, they might never know their true real human-completeness?

This WORLD is about pairs of things.
The human body systems mirror that.

Chiron in Aries now... Wound of 'self' and being burdened/harmed with 'sufficiency ONLY by the self'?

Gently, no.... It about having the balance of Libra (relationships). Working WITH others to achieve a human's Best (nurtured, wholesome) and Completed Self.

If you can't 'feel' .. or have the sense that you even have the Right to feel your 'feelings' -- that is really isolating.

How mechanized and teched our worlds are now! We have surreal 'relationships' with a computer-screen that responds to a humans 'touch' (swipes, etc).


The coronavirus right now???? omg.
It's so Aquarian? … We are afraid to interact with other humans. We don't even want to share the same breathing space. We send 'air' hugs, air kisses, that never physically contact our sense of 'touch'. We are 'isolating' from other humans, other groups, and remaining in a self (or govt/authority) imposed quarantine.

We are less and less 'exchanging' with another human-- dollar to dollar became credit/debit card to and through machine.

So interesting to watch how the transits are evolving. The astrology is amazing.

The Healthy Aquarian Age, Human Helpers.
"Inclusive" of ALL that we are Uniquely made to be.

NO one shunned, everyone 'fits' somehow.
We are Valuable 'because' We are Human.
Possibility.
We each contain something of Value inside.
Nurture and highlight 'what' you want to Grow-- in self, and other.

We ARE Interconnected.

(music) Reach Out and Touch Somebody's Hand (Diana Ross, lyrics) [3:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIihblOPxrU

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posted March 05, 2020 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadja:
Any comments on the issue of interceptions in extreme northern or southern latitudes? My father has half the signs intercepted for instance (using Placidus)... His Ascendant is in late Sagittarius, 2nd house cusp in early Pisces and 3rd house cusp in early Taurus. And his 6th/12th house axis spans a grand total of 8 degrees each. That sort of chart isn't at all uncommon here.

As you will know, Nadja ... most astrologers/students advise that the chart should be read using Equal or Whole Houses - as these house systems cannot have intercepted signs. And, I agree with that - if the chart is FULLY analysed, interpreted and synthesised. Because (theoretically) each house system delivers the same message(s), but via different astrological indicators - so a 100% exploration should produce the same final output report.

However, I have neither tested that theory myself nor seen it tested by anyone else ... and my gut feeling is something gets missed if the astrologer/student chooses to use a house system with which he/she is not familiar.

Moreover, I strongly believe that each Soul incarnates in the geographical location which produces the natal chart it intended to have. ... Hence, if your father's natal chart has three intercepted sign-pairs, his Soul incarnated with the intention of addressing the related issues in the current lifetime - and astrologers/students do him no favours by not attempting to help him do so.

And - although it is indeed difficult to correctly analyse, interpret and synthesise one intercepted sign-pair + their related duplications - the presence of 3 pairs does not always make the task 3 times as difficult for the astrologer/student, because the issues of each pair are often connected (so identifying one can make it easier to identify the other two).

Does this answer your question, Nadja? ... Or would it be more helpful if I attempted to step-through an analysis (without interpretation or synthesis) of your father's interceptions+duplications in the personal readings section?

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posted March 05, 2020 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You wrote seemed to be that in order to physically survive, you had to 'change' {broadly interpreting here} from 'being under the authority' of a father, etc, to become 'under the authority' of a hive?

Both kind of spell out that there's a powerlessness involved. You are under the control and 'will' of domineering cold ruthless outside forces? You have no Rights outside following 'the will' of another or of a group-mind.


The scenario was actually the reverse of this, mirage ... in that I had to empower others in my team to do more - because I was a UK public sector manager doing what his staff needed to be doing for themselves. ... Thus, I was becoming exhausted, and my staff were not yet working at a responsibility-level that would enable them to compete with their private sector counterparts if/when Margaret Thatcher's Conservative Government introduced legislation requiring them to do so.

In effect, I was forced to learn the difference between Aquarian-age mothering and Piscean-age smothering of others.

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posted March 05, 2020 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Graham!

I guess my main objection stems from reading about interceptions, texts such as the Alice Miller quote above, but then realizing that almost everyone around me has an interception or three in their chart... It kind of starts to sound like hyperbole. I just feel like interceptions start to lose some of the meaning ascribed to them when a majority of the charts I look at have them. Overall I just don't think Placidus (and similar house systems) works very well up here, but I'm no astrologer so I can't really give compelling argument.

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posted March 05, 2020 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for clarifying that specifically, Graham.

I'm surprised that my guess still had an amount of accuracy. 'Authoritarian female'.

I TOTALLY 'get' about employees who need to step-up their responsibility.

For me?, I'd be very grateful to a boss or a (competent) team-leader like that. Helps to grow one's skills! Then, you'd find self able to move UP to even more sophisticated jobs, that had more potential to grow in.

Wayyyyy long ago, I've had to supervise folks like that before. I remember some who were lackadaisical, and seemed not willing to comply. (Mine was a coordinator's position in whatever field I had.) I had a way to help straighten out flow of things.
I helped them 'naturally' be able to catch their own mistakes-- and for it to happen SOONER in the process rather than later, where more spread (of any errors) could occur!

The ninth house is the house of 'systems'.
With Virgo (analysis) and my Moon there, I was intuitive on how to bend the 'flow' so the could work with more efficiency (with less stress). I was always careful to protect the employee's emotions and feelings by helping them (in a positive cheerful manner) to detach-enough (from ego) to see the simple-fix required... The benefit of that might even make the job more pleasurable and enjoyable for them?
{Libra MC.. Moon late Virgo in orb of wide conjunction to MC.}

I tend to shirk wanting to supervise--
I'm a Team Player. I'd rather work to support rather than rule-over! LOL

Graham... You know I adore your work!
Thanks for everything you add to us here at LL.

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posted March 06, 2020 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadja:
Thank you Graham!

I guess my main objection stems from reading about interceptions, texts such as the Alice Miller quote above, but then realizing that almost everyone around me has an interception or three in their chart... It kind of starts to sound like hyperbole. I just feel like interceptions start to lose some of the meaning ascribed to them when a majority of the charts I look at have them. Overall I just don't think Placidus (and similar house systems) works very well up here, but I'm no astrologer so I can't really give compelling argument.



Yet ... even the differing amounts of sunshine hours experienced throughout the year by a person living in Helsinki and (say) Kisangani might result in each of them having different issues to overcome. ... And, interceptions could be the astrological mechanism that accommodates those kinds of issues.

For example ... I have just now looked at the astrodatabank chart of Charles Gordon ("of Khartoum") - a General known historically for his stereotypical "British stiff upper lip" - and was not surprised to find it has Virgo-Pisces intercepted in 12th/6th, with Cancer/Capricorn duplicated on 4th+5th/10th+11th. ... http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Gordon,_Charles

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posted March 06, 2020 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doesn't Pisces represent a faster vibratory archetype and attunement than Aquarius?

Isn't Pisces basically Aquarius, but with more flexibility, compassion, and empathy?

I see the turning of the Ages as sort of an issue and question of momentum...

Let me explain (insert collective groan....)

As the Zodiac regressed from Leo to Cancer, to Gemini, to Taurus, to Aries, humanity became ever more collectively slow vibratory in nature as a whole.

Cayce's guidance indicated that the Age of Leo was the last "golden Age" and it likewise was a time of tremendous earth changes/catastrophes like this one will be, and that started about 12,500 or so years ago.

But we've spent all this time in slower vibratory expressions, but it was at the start of the Pisces Age, that we started swinging back up again.

It's like we have to gain momentum over time. It's not really that Aquarius is more intune or a more evolved expression than Pisces, it's just that we're just getting use to the faster vibratory level, and in Aquarius, that will start to smooth out.

According to Bob Monroe, we might not ever make it to Capricorn. Meaning, what he was shown was that in about 1500 years from now, humanity and the Earth became so collectively fast vibratory, that all the Spirits involved with the Earth at this/that time, finally, fully graduate, and move completely on from not only Earth/this system, but this entire reality.

To go where and do what? To become what we were always meant to become, and what Source hoped we would choose--to become full Co-Creators and companions with same and start co-creating entire new realities, entire new Spirits to grow up in same, etc. One big, expanding creative orgasmic art project (or jamming out orchestra) getting ever more sublime, complex and multi-varied in nature.

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posted March 06, 2020 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Doesn't Pisces represent a faster vibratory archetype and attunement than Aquarius?

Isn't Pisces basically Aquarius, but with more flexibility, compassion, and empathy?

I see the turning of the Ages as sort of an issue and question of momentum...

Let me explain (insert collective groan....)

As the Zodiac regressed from Leo to Cancer, to Gemini, to Taurus, to Aries, humanity became ever more collectively slow vibratory in nature as a whole.

Cayce's guidance indicated that the Age of Leo was the last "golden Age" and it likewise was a time of tremendous earth changes/catastrophes like this one will be, and that started about 12,500 or so years ago.

But we've spent all this time in slower vibratory expressions, but it was at the start of the Pisces Age, that we started swinging back up again.

It's like we have to gain momentum over time. It's not really that Aquarius is more intune or a more evolved expression than Pisces, it's just that we're just getting use to the faster vibratory level, and in Aquarius, that will start to smooth out.

According to Bob Monroe, we might not ever make it to Capricorn. Meaning, what he was shown was that in about 1500 years from now, humanity and the Earth became so collectively fast vibratory, that all the Spirits involved with the Earth at this/that time, finally, fully graduate, and move completely on from not only Earth/this system, but this entire reality.

To go where and do what? To become what we were always meant to become, and what Source hoped we would choose--to become full Co-Creators and companions with same and start co-creating entire new realities, entire new Spirits to grow up in same, etc. One big, expanding creative orgasmic art project (or jamming out orchestra) getting ever more sublime, complex and multi-varied in nature.


I see Pisces as the Age when humanity moved from being the "keeper of my own" (Aries) to the "keeper of others" ... and Aquarius as the Age when humanity shall become a "co-operative" - in which every individual will make their unique contribution to his/her society. ... Hence, each of us will be valued (and respected) for what we do well - rather than judged (and rejected) for what others do better.

However ... there are already signs that Aquarius will just become the Age when the "money-lovers" send holograms on concert tours rather than real people.

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posted March 06, 2020 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Thanks for clarifying that specifically, Graham.

I'm surprised that my guess still had an amount of accuracy. 'Authoritarian female'.

I TOTALLY 'get' about employees who need to step-up their responsibility.

For me?, I'd be very grateful to a boss or a (competent) team-leader like that. Helps to grow one's skills! Then, you'd find self able to move UP to even more sophisticated jobs, that had more potential to grow in.

Wayyyyy long ago, I've had to supervise folks like that before. I remember some who were lackadaisical, and seemed not willing to comply. (Mine was a coordinator's position in whatever field I had.) I had a way to help straighten out flow of things.
I helped them 'naturally' be able to catch their own mistakes-- and for it to happen SOONER in the process rather than later, where more spread (of any errors) could occur!

The ninth house is the house of 'systems'.
With Virgo (analysis) and my Moon there, I was intuitive on how to bend the 'flow' so the could work with more efficiency (with less stress). I was always careful to protect the employee's emotions and feelings by helping them (in a positive cheerful manner) to detach-enough (from ego) to see the simple-fix required... The benefit of that might even make the job more pleasurable and enjoyable for them?
{Libra MC.. Moon late Virgo in orb of wide conjunction to MC.}

I tend to shirk wanting to supervise--
I'm a Team Player. I'd rather work to support rather than rule-over! LOL

Graham... You know I adore your work!
Thanks for everything you add to us here at LL.


Team player bosses just invert the triangle - putting themselves at the bottom, as the "gofer" acquiring the resources needed by the doers at the top.

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posted March 06, 2020 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

Yet ... even the differing amounts of sunshine hours experienced throughout the year by a person living in Helsinki and (say) Kisangani might result in each of them having different issues to overcome. ... And, interceptions could be the astrological mechanism that accommodates those kinds of issues.

I guess... I've read quite a lot of discussions on the subject over the years and it seems that most of the astrologers who live north of the 60th parallel and still stick to using Placidus justify this choice, and the impact it has on the chart, with statements to the effect of "extreme locations = special challanges". And yes, most places north of the 60th are rugged and isolated arctic places where I guess that is true. Here in the mild and temperate southern half of Finland it doesn't quite hold water though. The differing amounts of sunlight is really the only thing that makes life here any different from continental Europe. I think someone here in the Nordic countries needs to do a proper study on the subject... preferably a practicing astrologer who can work with actual clients.

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posted March 06, 2020 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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However ... there are already signs that Aquarius will just become the Age when the "money-lovers" send holograms on concert tours rather than real people.

Haha, this reminds me of a Black Mirror episode I watched not long ago that Miley Cyrus starred in.

But more seriously, that might be the natural progression of things if everything stays status quo and progresses as is.

However, the Creative Forces have other ideas and plans in mind. Something that MANY people have been shown. Heck, near death experiencer Howard Storm was shown back in the mid 80's, that the Creative Forces were very, very unhappy with the US in particular, and point blank said that if the US doesn't change for the better, then either it will self destruct, or they will bring it down.

The interesting thing is, these kinds of messages among those with NDE's, repeat and repeat as to the big world changes. Then you have a number of older sources that talk about similar things.

"The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls."

We are getting closer and closer. Time to prepare self for either a nice nonphysical vacation, or for surviving quite an intense ride. The Creative Forces want the world to change for the better, and because the psychopathic plutocrats now have so much power and influence on this world, nothing short of catastrophe will level the playing field and allow a full flowering of collective Love and spiritual attunement to fully unfold.

As to the changes physical: Ain't no thing, happens around every 12, 000 years or so.

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I was just reading about this today, still trying to wrap my head around interceptions.

In my chart, Gemini/Sagittarius are duplicated on house cusps 4/5 (Gem) and 10/11 (Sag).

Aries/Libra (2/8) do not appear on a cusp. Does this mean my 2nd/8th house are intercepted? Or Aries/Libra is intercepted?

Trying to determine some blind spots....!

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posted March 06, 2020 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manymoones:

In my chart, Gemini/Sagittarius are duplicated on house cusps 4/5 (Gem) and 10/11 (Sag).

Aries/Libra (2/8) do not appear on a cusp.

Does this mean my 2nd/8th house are intercepted?
Or Aries/Libra is intercepted?



{I only have your Whole House signs}

Placidus Houses---
Is Pisces the cusp sign of your H2,
(Aries inside),
then Taurus Cusp H3?

H2-PISCES |(Aries)| taur H3-TAURUS
H8-VIRGO |(Libra)| scorp H9-SCORPIO

Then you would say that your 2nd House has an interception (in it).

Your 2nd House Pisces has sign of 'Aries' intercepted.

Imagine a 3 seat sofa in front of you.
Each 'end' has an arm rest.
The person who sits on the middle cushion, does not (middle = interception).

Pisces has an arm rest {cusp}. H2
Aries none
Taurus has an arm rest. H3

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posted March 06, 2020 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Imagine a 3 seat sofa in front of you.
Each 'end' has an arm rest.
The person who sits on the middle cushion, does not (middle = interception).

Pisces has an arm rest {cusp}. H2
Aries none
Taurus has an arm rest. H3



Good explanation/illustration, mirage. ... And, if it's ok with you, I shall be using it myself from now on.

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posted March 06, 2020 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manymoones:
I was just reading about this today, still trying to wrap my head around interceptions.

In my chart, Gemini/Sagittarius are duplicated on house cusps 4/5 (Gem) and 10/11 (Sag).

Aries/Libra (2/8) do not appear on a cusp. Does this mean my 2nd/8th house are intercepted? Or Aries/Libra is intercepted?

Trying to determine some blind spots....!


"an issue in houses 4 and 10 is adversely affecting the activities of houses 5 and 11, in a way that - until resolved - prevents the positive qualities of Aries and Libra (+ any planets within them) from being used effectively".

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posted March 07, 2020 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by GCE :

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The interesting thing is, these kinds of messages among those with NDE's, repeat and repeat as to the big world changes. Then you have a number of older sources that talk about similar things.

I remember reading "Bringers of The Dawn" in the early 1990s and being unable to see how what was being predicted could actually happen ... but now know that it has happened, is happening and will continue to do so.

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posted March 07, 2020 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Graham:
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Imagine a 3 seat sofa in front of you.
Each 'end' has an arm rest.
The person who sits on the middle cushion, does not (middle = interception).

Pisces has an arm rest {cusp}. H2
Aries none
Taurus has an arm rest. H3 {/QUOTE}

Good explanation/illustration, mirage. ... And, if it's ok with you, I shall be using it myself from now on.


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posted March 07, 2020 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manymoones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second that! The arm rest reference is super helpful, thanks Mirage! And you are exactly right with the house/sign placements for my chart in Placidus system. So I have 2nd house Pisces with Aries interception, thus 8th house Virgo with Libra interception.

And thank you Graham for inserting the houses/signs. I was getting mixed up!

Appreciate you all, I will think on this and see what kind of underlying themes I can decipher....

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