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Topic: Capricorn - Differences between Male/Female?
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ULT12 Knowflake Posts: 145 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted March 10, 2020 02:45 AM
To keep this short I have to be specific, unfortunately.I've known several Female Cap ASCs personally. Zero Male. What I've noted with these Female Cap ASCs is that they 'take on' UNNECESSARY what-I-would-call problems, seemingly in order to fulfill an emotional need they have to keep moving, doing - achieving(!) - etc. Like I said, I do not know of any Male Cap ASCs (strangely, I'm swimming in Male Cancer ASCs), but my intuited understanding is males are not addy-ony like this, rather they have focused goals and go after them then get new goals as a matter of life. What it seems like to me is, the Females feel societal pressure to be caring, sympathetic, etc, so they adopt problem-1, problem-2, problem--3, so that their entire life - their entire [self]identity(!!!) - is just an endless scene of them seemingly running around in circles chicken-head-cut-off style. It seems like Female Cap ASCs are extra-burdened, because ASC = one's basic Role in life + Cap = feels responsibility immensely -> Female Cap ASCs feel pressure to -both- caretake and achieve/accomplish externally/societally. Just me?
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 4927 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted March 10, 2020 06:40 AM
Not Cap Asc but Moon. And female. I used to be like that. I even took care of other people’s problems and at the time I thought I was happy doing it but no more! At the age of 43 I’ve FINALLY realized that I need to take care of me first and it feels awesome! IP: Logged |
ULT12 Knowflake Posts: 145 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted March 10, 2020 01:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: Not Cap Asc but Moon. And female. I used to be like that. I even took care of other people’s problems and at the time I thought I was happy doing it but no more! At the age of 43 I’ve FINALLY realized that I need to take care of me first and it feels awesome!
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Graham Knowflake Posts: 914 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted March 10, 2020 01:50 PM
quote: At the age of 43 I’ve FINALLY realized that I need to take care of me first and it feels awesome!
I am male, but realised this around the same age - which coincided with transit Uranus opposing my natal Uranus (the astrological mid-life crisis). One has to stay healthy in order to be able to care for others. … Hence, in the Aquarian Age, the greatest need of the group is for every individual/member to take good care of themselves. Yet … still there are those following the Piscean Age belief/teaching that "the needs of others should always be put before our own" - driving themselves towards a physical or mental breakdown by doing so, and thus becoming a burden upon (rather than an asset to) the "others" they were attempting to help. IP: Logged |
ULT12 Knowflake Posts: 145 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted March 10, 2020 03:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Graham: I am male, but realised this around the same age - which coincided with transit Uranus opposing my natal Uranus (the astrological mid-life crisis).One has to stay healthy in order to be able to care for others. … Hence, in the Aquarian Age, the greatest need of the group is for every individual/member to take good care of themselves. Yet … still there are those following the Piscean Age belief/teaching that "the needs of others should always be put before our own" - driving themselves towards a physical or mental breakdown by doing so, and thus becoming a burden upon (rather than an asset to) the "others" they were attempting to help.
Isn't your Uranus conjunct MC? If so, the Uranus-conj-IC Transit fits really well - rebellion(Uranus) from caretaking 'responsibilities'(IC/Moon). Additionally, aspecting MC(overall life 'goal', direction) is evident in your take-away. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 123963 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 14, 2020 01:23 PM
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Astra Knowflake Posts: 1090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 14, 2020 11:54 PM
I'm a female cap ascendant. It's actually my job description to solve everyone's problems, so I can relate a bit to what you are saying. My brother is also a cap ascendant and people rely on him for everything as well. I think it's because cap risings project an air of competence and reliability so people go to them for help. There were times when I refused to help someone due to time constraints and I always ended up paying dearly for it in the end, so I've learned to always help others as the consequences of not doing so aren't worth it.IP: Logged |
ULT12 Knowflake Posts: 145 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted March 15, 2020 12:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astra: I'm a female cap ascendant. It's actually my job description to solve everyone's problems
lol. Thanks for the post, Astra. Mind telling a few details about your Chart, if not posting the whole thing? - Degree of ASC - Sign/House/Degree of Saturn - Is your birth time from birth certificate/record, or ... ? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 13024 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 15, 2020 01:59 AM
I have a male AC in cappy friend and a female AC in cappy friend.The female cappy friend got her bachelor's degree, then her masters and then is now on her PHD program and did it back to back basically, in her 20s she was already getting her PHD. She is a counselor but I don't feel she has a need to rescue others, I feel with her mars in aries she has healthy boundaries around that even though she has Neptune on her AC in cappy, she blends in with her environment and is adaptive but I don't feel she has these issues around wanting to rescue everyone at all. My friendship with her was one of the healthiest I feel I have had bc there was an equal give and take and mutual support but neither was trying to fix or rescue the other, just acceptance and support and no controlling each other. She has saturn in the 1H. Now my cappy male friend did not get a degree but he managed to get a good job for someone without a degree in the oil industry working indoors. He struggles with depression since he was a teenager at least and was diagnosed with bi-polar as a teen, he will deny he has bi-polar now as an adult but I have witnessed him having episodes and he has delusions of grandeur and has homicidal ideation at times. IMO he does have bi-polar and it has been a life long struggle for him. He has has neptune conjunct his AC but his Saturn is in the 12H instead of the 1H and he does seem to carry on the weight of world on his shoulders in line with Saturn in the 12H, he got it into his head that he could have saved this stranger and was experiencing excessive guilt over it and then it led to an episode ect. I feel my other Cappy AC friend with Saturn in the 1H does not do this sort of thing or carry the weight of world in her shoulders and found a healthy way to channel her need to help and support others in their journey towards personal growth without feeling is her job to rescue them either. So my personal experience is that women with AC in Cappy are strong and have their **** together and that AC in Cappy man struggle with wanting to rescue the world while simultaneously hating everyone and feeling superior to everyone. Most of the time he is a super nice guy and good friend but when he lets you get a glimpse of his internal dark thoughts you tap into another layer of him that could the result of having saturn in the 12H. IP: Logged |
ULT12 Knowflake Posts: 145 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted March 15, 2020 03:12 AM
^ It seems like House placement of ASC Ruler may play a huge role.--- H1 = self; ASC Ruler in H1 = person is "selfish" (I do not mean that in a bad way, but that the line between Themself and Others is always in the back of their mind and the distinction is clear, with a Self-First disposition/concern). --- H12 = selfless, boundaryless, "universal, global, everyone" etc, too empathetic, concern with healing others; So with ASC Ruler in H12, this is "their"(asc) domain, where they are supposed to be (asc = "Role" in life). The 3 Female Cap ASCs I can think of... none of them have Saturn-1, so I can't say exactly what it's like. One does have Saturn-12 though, and oddly they were exactly like you described - wanting to save everyone, blah blah. When I made this thread I actually was thinking of just 2 people, both who have Saturn(asc ruler) in Mercurcy houses (3/6) - which is the planet of "management" and "planning" - which might be why I described F-Cap ASCs as seeming like 'chickens with their heads cut off' lol. Still, I think the general conditioning/raising of M vs F Cap might be true. Need more data. IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 1090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 15, 2020 05:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by ULT12: lol. Thanks for the post, Astra.Mind telling a few details about your Chart, if not posting the whole thing? - Degree of ASC - Sign/House/[b]Degree of Saturn - Is your birth time from birth certificate/record, or ... ? [/B]
My birth time came from my birth certificate. Below is my chart: [img]https://i.ibb.co/gVbpkZg/Astra.png[/img] I forgot to add one thing: I've been intensely ambitious since I was 5 years old. At that young age, I had planned out my life through age 60 whereas my brother was very chill and didn't develop any intense ambition until after he graduated college. I'm still the more competitive and ambitious one though. We have many similarities in our charts, but the difference is his chart ruler is in Libra and mine is in Scorpio. He's very sweet and goes with the flow no matter what. In contrast, I'll be very sweet but I will destroy anyone who betrays me. IP: Logged |