posted April 12, 2020 02:43 PM            

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Friday night, everything was tasting off to me, and by the middle of the night, I was terrified that I was sick. My first instinct was to sanitize what I could, anything I’d touched that dad would also touch (like his coffee, and the remote, the fridge doors, and so on), and then isolate from him upstairs. I texted him to say all of that, but luckily I seemed fine yesterday. I was freaking out, because he’s out there so much, and being careful, but I’m here all the time and while I wash my hands well, and am careful about things like that, I hadn’t sanitized everything regularly.

Saturn in Aquarius: Spain is looking into a universal basic income. Other countries are paying 80-90% of people’s salaries. Our government is still trying to screw people over.

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I thought I had it too yesterday night bc my throat felt a little funny and a few hours later felt totally fine again, I can't tell you how many times this has happened, we are all hyper-vigilent right now of anything we feel in our bodies, you are not alone, very normal right now.

posted April 12, 2020 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I relate a lot to what Stawr's sister said and to your own experience girlwitharainysoul with friends.

My chart ruler JUPITER is in the 12H opposite Chiron in the 6H so I naturally spend a lot of time at home and value alone time over socializing and I live in the mountains and love the solitude of that life style. I don't have an active social life at all but I enjoy my daily routine of going to work and working outside of home and having a separate space for that, I also enjoy my routine of getting my nails done or going to the gym and going grocery shopping with my husband, I like spending alone time while I do some self care stuff, I also love driving and listening to music by myself.

Everything I just mentioned is affected by this quarantine but I think I am handling been at home well bc I love spending alone time but I am also a realist when it comes to finances and what is required to survive and pay bills and been on quarantine indefinitely bc of fear of death is not realistic, we need to be able to survive.

Then bc I have PLUTO ruling my 11H conjunct Saturn in the 10H, I tend to prefer having just one friend or two and have never been the type to invest on a big social life or having many friends. I am big on quality over quantity and since my husband is my best friend and I have a career that is big on connecting deeply with others, I don't have much motivation or energy to develop friends as my social needs are met through my career. The friends I do have are from work, co-workers and supervisors. I do meet up for brunch about every other month with two of my old supervisors and some other people from work and they are all capricorn and one is a gemini. I have another friend I still see when I visit Miami who is a capricorn too.

I don't agree that is IMPOSSIBLE to have a healthy relationship with another girl on a friendship level but yes is challenging to find down to earth women who are not jealous or catty and are confident in themselves and independent overall who you can have a relationship of equals with and not be worrying about them bc you know they have their Sh*t together. It can take time to find this but is not impossible.

girlwitharainysoul, you and I both have an afflicted 11H ruler, yours is afflicted by mars and chiron and mine is afflicted by saturn and my saturn inconjuncts chiron. I think this explains why I relate to your experiences a lot. However, I feel you are more popular than me with your venus in the 11th.

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Hypatia, your lifestyle sounds like my dream! Living in the mountains away from all the craziness. When I get married and become fully independent (which believe it or not I find marriage the ultimate form of independence!), I will most probably get him on board to go live in nature.

I am thankful that I do have real women as my friends, and I cherish them. But I must confess that I also tend to keep them at a certain distance. Like the Libra girl, if it were up to her only she would love to talk every day, not gossip, but the stuff we both like, but I just can't help but think that she and I will get too close and that will end up ruining our "normal" friendship. Every single time she met a new guy she would come to me for advice first, but when she got married in January I told her straight that I didn't want any detail on her married life and that if she ever needed advice she should consult a relationship therapist. It is funny just today she texted me and told me that her husband is driving her crazy and "I want to stay alone forever". I laughed at her obvious joke and told her :no it is best to be together but have boundaries . She sent a smilie and said that she agrees.
I guess I am just drawing on the experience and so far I am happy with the result and do not wish for more. I don't think I am the type of person to go out of my way for a friend and then expect the other person to do the same for me. I know one of those extreme cases of women's friendship, that once one of them took care of the other's kids for a few days while she was on vacation with her husband, and then when the other woman had a new baby she expected her friend to take days off her work and help her with the baby! It was a lot of drama and almost cost them their relationship when she couldn't get out of her job for a couple of days. Not to mention that they are no longer "besties".

I can't understand how some women get together and share details of their sex life either. Plus it feels a lot like cheating on their man and I can't understand how they don't see it.

posted April 12, 2020 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Hypatia, your lifestyle sounds like my dream! Living in the mountains away from all the craziness. When I get married and become fully independent (which believe it or not I find marriage the ultimate form of independence!), I will most probably get him on board to go live in nature.

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That made me smile.

I know you have Sun in Taurus with Moon in Pisces and I have Sun in Virgo with Moon in Pisces so maybe we really value a lot living close to nature with this combo. Do you have anything in your 12H?

Interesting you see marriage this way, I WANT TO HEAR MORE if you don't mind. Genuinely curious to hear about your thoughts and values on this. It already has a Taurus feeling to it but maybe bc your have Saturn in aquarius on the DC that is were this comes from "the ultimate form of independence." It sounds like an unique take on it and I love unique thoughts. Taurus meets Saturn in aquarius on the DC perspective.

posted April 12, 2020 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Ohh anything is possible, but we made it through the SPANISH FLU and survived that and this so far is nothing compared to the Spanish Flue but if this does get to Spanish Flu levels which I don't think it will, we still need to be able to work to survive and accept the reality people will die. I just find it interesting how some people think is an option to not work indefinitely, like they are not in touch with the reality of how things work.

Back when we did not have antibiotics and anyone could die from an infection or a cold people still did their daily routine and accepted that death could happen out of nowhere and is part of life. A society cannot function if people stay at home indefinitely and as long as we are all grocery shopping this thing is going to spread anyways bc we all go grocery shopping and yet we are shutting everything else down. In the meantime people are dying from drug overdose at a much higher rate yearly than the coronavirus.

Yes there are so many unknowns, this thing every time it hits you can weaken your body more and more as it does not seem to be developing herd immunity so far so it will eventually take a toll on your body even if you survive it if lets say it keeps hitting you every year, I am aware of this, I am also aware that it took a SUPER long time, many many years for a vaccine to be discovered for the Spanish Flu.

I guess I rather die from this virus but have food on the table and a cozy home to die in than die from this virus on the streets hungry, cold and homeless. So yes a strong economy while we figure this out is preferable.

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Hypatia as long as we have been making healthy choices and have been careful with the distance and contact since the breakout started, chances of getting this virus are low.

But I agree with Teasel on the government not looking anywhere near having a plan to improve or control the situation. I am not even sure they want it to be controlled. More older people dying, means fewer expenses for the governments. I agree that the economy is important, but at what cost? 2020 is not like the times of cholera where most countries were poor and people had to go to work walking alongside death knowingly just not to die from hunger. The government is now very rich and has resources to feed the entire nation for years, but they prefer to keep this money for other purposes like another military project.

Seeing pictures of NYC subway packed with people these days was devastating for me. Of course they care about their life, but they have to go to work anyway because they are mostly the middle and working classes. But does this administration even know what will happen if the majority of these workers get sick? Who will run the economy wheel then?

posted April 12, 2020 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

I am thankful that I do have real women as my friends, and I cherish them. But I must confess that I also tend to keep them at a certain distance. Like the Libra girl, if it were up to her only she would love to talk every day, not gossip, but the stuff we both like, but I just can't help but think that she and I will get too close and that will end up ruining our "normal" friendship.

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I didn't use to be that way but as I have gotten older and after a few experiences were I was best friends with two different women for over a decade I do that for similar reasons as you, I feel we have had similar experiences at the core of this with friendships and have arrived at similar conclusions, is not worth investing too much on friendship and is important to keep it light and maintain some distance. Which after all is the spirit of Aquarius; a style of connecting in a detached way while been independent simultaneously. Aquarius is free spirited and independent. Aquarius says to the world "lets be free and independent together" and "work together towards common goals" and BINGO that is a healthy friendship. If someone cannot have this kind of relationship they need to work on themselves first. Through the therapeutic bond people can repair attachment issues, strengthen their self worth so they can then fly into the world and form healthy connections/friendships with others. If someone has an insecure attachment style like Stawr's friend that friend will drive them crazy and she will start to resent them for "making them the ANSWER."

So you are protecting the friendship by not getting too close bc intuitively you don't want to accidentally nourish co-dependency traits in her towards you.

I can see your Saturn in Aquarius on an angle in action clearly now, you are very mindful around not nourishing co-dependency dynamics in your friendships and that is why the label "best friends" is something that concerns you because that can be the gateway to friendships growing "too" close and these co-dependency dynamics slipping in. I am glad we had this conversation, it has been insightful .

posted April 12, 2020 04:30 PM            

I agree hence why social distancing is a more practical solution than indefinite quarantine, the quarantine should be for preparing the hospitals.

"But I agree with Teasel on the government not looking anywhere near having a plan to improve or control the situation."

Perhaps, we will know for sure once we open up the economy if the hospitals handle relatively well this situation or if is a complete disaster like with China who had to build more hospitals and Italy who had to stop taking care of their elderly.

"I am not even sure they want it to be controlled. More older people dying, means fewer expenses for the governments."

I mean I think they are trying or they would not force quarantine for over a month on us and disrupt the economy this much after having build up the economy.

"I agree that the economy is important, but at what cost? 2020 is not like the times of cholera where most countries were poor and people had to go to work walking alongside death knowingly just not to die from hunger. The government is now very rich and has resources to feed the entire nation for years, but they prefer to keep this money for other purposes like another military project."

I don't think the government is rich, people have been concerned for a long time that there will no longer be social security checks do to lack of funds to give out when they retire. The government actually is poor and has a lot of debt hence why inflation keeps going up and making the cost of living higher and higher and people are drowning on students loans. The cost of education is so high bc the government has so much debt, the student federal loans keep the cost of education high. The government could go bankrupt, and the more we print money and cause inflation the more poor developing countries are impacted by this who are already very vulnerable and other countries could start refusing the dollar if we the devalue our money badly enough, we are not invisible. The idea that the whole country could live of the government for years is not realistic. If people are not working, people don't pay their taxes and if people don't pay their taxes all those programs that help the needy go away.

However, I agree that they spend way to much money on the military! 100% agree with you there.

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

Seeing pictures of NYC subway packed with people these days was devastating for me. Of course they care about their life, but they have to go to work anyway because they are mostly the middle and working classes. But does this administration even know what will happen if the majority of these workers get sick? Who will run the economy wheel then?

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Valid questions to raise, I don't think this is going to be like the Spanish Flu so if some people die I think there will be people who will apply for those jobs. Even with the Spanish Flu a quarter of people got infected and 10% of those people died so there was still people left to run the economy wheel I feel.

"I myself as a middle class do not have a stable income yet and can only live like this for four or five other months maybe. Then I will probably have to either get used to being paid less or risk my health by going out after the life I want. I think if things get too bad, which they hopefully will not, many will no longer want more material things and will be okay with a minimal lifestyle. By then the craziness of planets' transits in Capricorn, promoting overachieving and overbearing lifestyles, will have passed too and people may prefer a more elusive and practical lifestyle. I don't know maybe I am being too idealistic, but as the economy spirals downward, the extravagant lifestyles of famous people may no longer be a goal, but something to be ashamed of."

I love your insight here but living in survival mode is not fun either and humans are meant to thrive but toning down materialism sounds good too, I feel my life is minimalist already, all the "extra" money we make goes to getting rid of debt. I live in the mountains in a SMALL cabin with one bedroom upstairs.

posted April 12, 2020 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That made me smile.

I know you have Sun in Taurus with Moon in Pisces and I have Sun in Virgo with Moon in Pisces so maybe we really value a lot living close to nature with this combo. Do you have anything in your 12H?

Interesting you see marriage this way, I WANT TO HEAR MORE if you don't mind. Genuinely curious to hear about your thoughts and values on this. It already has a Taurus feeling to it but maybe bc your have Saturn in aquarius on the DC that is were this comes from "the ultimate form of independence." It sounds like an unique take on it and I love unique thoughts. Taurus meets Saturn in aquarius on the DC perspective.

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I have Mars, Chiron and South Node, all three conjunct each other in Cancer in my 12th house. Chiron and South Node each have their own long stories, but as for my Mars which I sense more clearly, I guess I dream about living away mostly because I have been the most productive both on a physical and a spiritual level when I was alone. That conjunction opposes Neptune/Uranus and the NN in Capricorn in the 6th. I need alone time to combat stress that usually builds up in me over a couple of months. Add to that Taurus and the love of nature, and voila my fancy for the kind of life you have!

I think I find marriage the ultimate form of independence because I noticed that I was always a better person "to myself and others" when I was in love. When I am in love, I am not afraid to smile at a stranger on the street who might be having a bad day, to help an elderly, or to play with a child. I become lighter and let the life energy pass through me. In today's world, because everybody is so caught up in their heads, when someone is aligned with the universe through love, they seem as rebellious to others. And to get married with love, to me seems like keeping that rebellious nature and feeding it every single day for the rest of your life! That person becoming a new source of intelligence, creativity and inspiration for you. I know there are days you are mad at the other person, but it won't take long before things are right again.

When a marriage is not nourished with everyday little surprises and creativity, the intelligence of love dies, and the ugly side of Uranus comes up from the other side and separates the two people. The immature and selfish side of it. When a person puts him/herself first, the love and intelligence get blocked from them and instead flow through the next person who has decided to be open to them.

posted April 12, 2020 04:50 PM            

A person posted this today on that group (see below) and this really shows why I worry about the economy not opening back up, that been said is just a different point of view and I am glad you are all also expressing your points of views bc who knows, I am not saying I am right, I am expressing my opinion/concerns:

"Tonight will be my first HOWL.
I am howling to get "IT" out, After this I don't want to complain anymore. I am tired of the heaviness of thinking of all the things that have been destroyed and hurting. This is my first and last vent. Thank you in advance
I had to go to the ER two weeks ago, I am looking at a $4600 bill after insurance. A couple days later my mom had a stroke. She is thankfully recovering. Then my cat got seriously ill. Two days ago three fillings in my lower left teeth all fell out, and I am in excruciating pain. Then there are all my frustrations with having my business close down, zero income, no communication from the SBA even though I applied March 22nd, my unemployment application isn't showing up in their system and the phone lines are on perpetual busy signal.
Thankfully I somehow have been receiving one order a day online from my business, and that keeps me fed. But I have no idea how to pay bills/rent etc. This business That I have worked 7 days a week for 23 years to finally have it just close. I am a silversmith so this is me in my ventilator mask I already had for work."

posted April 12, 2020 05:13 PM            

I can make a long list of things to be angry or disappointed at during this time. In life there is always something to be afraid of or something to creep up on your thoughts and make you nervous. But let's not do that to ourselves. Let's be thankful that we are alive and that this pandemic has also brought with it a cleaner global atmosphere to breathe in. Animals in the wild all over the planet are having such a great time now! Let's be happy for them. For long we have put them in jails at zoos, now let us get a taste too for a change!

I loved our talk today. I am still day-dreaming about your house in the mountains!

posted April 12, 2020 05:18 PM            

Ha I also have Southnode in the 12th house. "I need alone time to combat stress that usually builds up in me over a couple of months." Exactly!

"I think I find marriage the ultimate form of independence because I noticed that I was always a better person "to myself and others" when I was in love. When I am in love, I am not afraid to smile at a stranger on the street who might be having a bad day, to help an elderly, or to play with a child. I become lighter and let the life energy pass through me."

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

In today's world, because everybody is so caught up in their heads, when someone is aligned with the universe through love, they seem as rebellious to others. And to get married with love, to me seems like keeping that rebellious nature and feeding it every single day for the rest of your life! That person becoming a new source of intelligence, creativity and inspiration for you. I know there are days you are mad at the other person, but it won't take long before things are right again.

When a marriage is not nourished with everyday little surprises and creativity, the intelligence of love dies, and the ugly side of Uranus comes up from the other side and separates the two people. The immature and selfish side of it. When a person puts him/herself first, the love and intelligence get blocked from them and instead flow through the next person who has decided to be open to them.

I hope it all didn't sound like an Aquarius dictionary

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I feel you should be a marriage counselor.

However, I align to the universe through love by loving my clients, my husband too but I feel even if he was not in my life my career makes me feel highly connected to the feeling of unconditional universal love and I love my career because of it but I think you are describing how DC in aquarius manifests for you, been in a relationship opens you up more to love humanity. I have aquarius in the 2H so how I make a living opens me up more to humanity and feeling that universal love for others.

posted April 12, 2020 06:08 PM            

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I can make a long list of things to be angry or disappointed at during this time. In life there is always something to be afraid of or something to creep up on your thoughts and make you nervous. But let's not do that to ourselves. Let's be thankful that we are alive and that this pandemic has also brought with it a cleaner global atmosphere to breathe in. Animals in the wild all over the planet are having such a great time now! Let's be happy for them. For long we have put them in jails at zoos, now let us get a taste too for a change!

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hahahahahah

hahaha when pisces influenced folks talk sometimes I totally melt....

My pisces client was telling me how she and her friend hanged out the other day but they parked next to each other and each stayed in their car...I just completely melted when she said that..

Back to your post that made me melt!
Beautifully put!

We should quarantine two weeks straight once a year globally ALL at the same time to help with pollution. I think this is a reasonable solution all sides of the political spectrum would be open to doing and is a start and a way to honor the earth.

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

I loved our talk today. I am still day-dreaming about your house in the mountains!

I think even as a full-moon person who needs human contact, your Pisces moon got her wish and gave you a home away from crowds. And you are so active in this forum with inspiring threads every day, and you are also a therapist if I am correct, so these clearly reflect your Libra MC needing to socialize, and your full-moon personality putting focus on one-on-one relationships with your clients, much like how important they are for my Saturn on DC. A couple of years ago I decided to study some psychology books and enroll in a course, but I found it needed a lot of patience (so hard for the state of my mercury!), which is why I gave up. I was fascinated by Jung's material then.

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I really enjoyed our talk too!

You can totally make that dream come true with your fiance! You can get better deals in the outskirts of cities, there is just more commuting involved if you don't work from home.

posted April 13, 2020 08:16 PM            

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Stawr, I can relate to your situation, with my chart also having pronounced 10th and 6th houses as well as an empty 5th! Having this time to ourselves to make the most out of studies and getting the job done! It actually feels us better to us than hanging out with friends.
It is very interesting what you have noticed, that "with the empty houses no news is good news!". I can only imagine how hectic my daily schedule would have been if I had a planet in the 5th too (I do have vertex and true lilith there which I think act less noticeably than a planet).

The good thing about the 11h house is that you can have access to fun when you want to, it's just that you are not too obsessed about it as when it was the 5th.

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Gosh yeah when I was a kid, I had a bunch of kids in my neighborhood to play with. The older ya get the more complicated friendships become. The drifting apart and friends flaking on me I use to take that very hard....it took me time to deal with it. In my early adult hood, I felt like I failed at life if I didn't have plans! XD
Yes by my late 20's having my plans canceled I was secretly like "Thank God"
Whenever one of my friends bailed on me I would angry clean my room. Haha
I had a group of friends who started to exclude me (I got with the wrong guy in the friend group) so instead of sitting around sad I got more into running and cooking. So I just got as skinny as my 17 yr old self, and become more wifey material. I basically just bettered my self to deal with it.

I know if I had stuff in my 5th house would I just have to worry about having fun?! I can't even with people like that. LOL Okay maybe I'm a little jealous.

Empty fourth house too. I not so secretly wish I could just be a stay at home wife sometimes.

Empty 7th house too. I use to worry this, but now I think it's fine.

Yes with 11th house I feel like I can attract excitement eventually when I feel compelled too. Teens to early 20's having a social life was more of a priority than stability. So over that now! That's part of why that one friend was so annoying to talk to.

I hate being a workaholic though, but I also hate to be a burden of other people and society. I just want a balanced and stable life (said the Aries haha!!!) I so have the work to live attitude.

Getting together with friends once a month sounds like a late 20's early 30's nirvana!
Yeah socializing while in school, I feel it weighs on me while I try to socialize. I am not good with parties especially if I barely know anyone there and just turned something in, or took an exam that day.

posted April 13, 2020 09:29 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I relate a lot to what Stawr's sister said and to your own experience girlwitharainysoul with friends.

My chart ruler JUPITER is in the 12H opposite Chiron in the 6H so I naturally spend a lot of time at home and value alone time over socializing and I live in the mountains and love the solitude of that life style. I don't have an active social life at all but I enjoy my daily routine of going to work and working outside of home and having a separate space for that, I also enjoy my routine of getting my nails done or going to the gym and going grocery shopping with my husband, I like spending alone time while I do some self care stuff, I also love driving and listening to music by myself.

Everything I just mentioned is affected by this quarantine but I think I am handling been at home well bc I love spending alone time but I am also a realist when it comes to finances and what is required to survive and pay bills and been on quarantine indefinitely bc of fear of death is not realistic, we need to be able to survive.

Then bc I have PLUTO ruling my 11H conjunct Saturn in the 10H, I tend to prefer having just one friend or two and have never been the type to invest on a big social life or having many friends. I am big on quality over quantity and since my husband is my best friend and I have a career that is big on connecting deeply with others, I don't have much motivation or energy to develop friends as my social needs are met through my career. The friends I do have are from work, co-workers and supervisors. I do meet up for brunch about every other month with two of my old supervisors and some other people from work and they are all capricorn and one is a gemini. I have another friend I still see when I visit Miami who is a capricorn too.

I don't agree that is IMPOSSIBLE to have a healthy relationship with another girl on a friendship level but yes is challenging to find down to earth women who are not jealous or catty and are confident in themselves and independent overall who you can have a relationship of equals with and not be worrying about them bc you know they have their Sh*t together. It can take time to find this but is not impossible.

girlwitharainysoul, you and I both have an afflicted 11H ruler, yours is afflicted by mars and chiron and mine is afflicted by saturn and my saturn inconjuncts chiron. I think this explains why I relate to your experiences a lot. However, I feel you are more popular than me with your venus in the 11th.

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Your life sounds beautiful!
I do miss my students and coworkers. But also enjoying this quarantine while it lasts. I have faith that my work life will someday get better. It was starting to improve before the schools shut down. I feel like I will have to revisit my old issues of micromanagement one last time. I feel like I will someday become an expert on handling overhearing humans. lol
I miss traveling and day outings with family, friends, and fiance.

Sometimes I like to think about my chinese birth chart for my social nature. I'm a wood snake hour sign: the snake is more introverted but has a magnetism and the element of wood is known for friendship.
My day sign is fire sheep. Sheep like to have their flock. Sheep is more introverted while still needed a flock of people. but the fire element is extroverted. I once read that fire sheep like having a variety of friendship circles.
my month sign is metal dragon. dragon is very lively and extroverted but metal is more of a cold, tough and calculated element. I once read that metal dragons usually have few close friends.
year of the metal horse. Horses are destined to be popular and social and wilt with out affection. I read that metal horses tend to have different and unusual variety of friends, I even read that metal horses can be snobby if they are successful. lol
I totally can see this play out. As much as I only need a few friends close to me, I do not like putting all my eggs in one basket. I like having different and separate social groups to mingle with. I am kind of over the best friend label though with people. Oh yeah there is totally a bff element in my romantic relationship. He even will somewhat joke with me like "no I'm your best friend."

Though I'm a fire sign, my closest friends are often Taurus, Cancers, Virgos, Pisces and Scorpios. (most of my natal planets are water and earth so I thing their sun signs complement that)

I think one of my most successful friendships is my pal who is a Gemini Rising, Cancer Sun, Leo Moon, and Gemini Venus. We can go a while with out talking but will reach out to each other at least once a month. I also admire this friend. He seriously has so many friends and seems to make time at some point one on one or small groups frequently. With at least 12 people. I don't know how he does it. But I am proud of him. He also has no problem going to see a movie alone. He is amazing, and so supportive.

Some of my greatest friends, it can get so challenging when someone moves a certain distance and is caught up in their own milestones. One friend I think I see every other year. And one friend I feel like I only see her on certain holidays and haven't hung out one on one in over a year. I am going to attempt to try harder though.

posted April 14, 2020 11:38 PM            

Referring back to original post and this phenomenon of social distancing.

While this whole thing has gone down we have had the nodes in the cappy/cancer axis. Precisely SOUTHNODE in Capricorn and Northnode in Cancer.

Southnode is what needs to be balanced out and neutralized and sometimes this is made possible through LOSS hence why vedic astrology considers the southnode a point of loss and northnode is what we need to integrate more.

We are social animals and it is wired into us the desire and NEED to connect and develop bonds. During this "social distance" phase data shows that phone contacts have gone up drastically. Unethical psychological research done back in the early days of the field of Psychology demonstrated that when a baby does not receive human touch and warmth its immunological system crumbles and the baby dies. Think of people that have cancer that make it through, they often fight like crazy to beat the cancer and this is driven by the desire for connection, they fight for their families often, to be alive for their loved ones and been near their loved ones during these times gives them the strength to fight the good fight. Someone alone and isolated typically will not fight as hard.

Our leaders, our governments (southnode in capricorn) are selling the idea that avoiding connection is Love, Dr. Fauci wants to permanently criminalize people shaking hands now, people are been shamed for NOT going against human nature. We are asking humans to go against their nature and shaming them and arresting them if they don't. I am all for ENCOURAGING people to practice social distance and staying home in quarantine for a few months to allow the hospitals to prepare more but to CRIMINALIZE being human, wanting to connect and for not covering the parts we use for connecting (our eyes, our mouths), for wanting to be free to live our lives and not be held hostage indefinitely in our homes is not okay. You cannot arrest someone for being human.

Saturn in Aquarius square Uranus in Taurus may be asking us to Rebel against our leaders/governments and fight for our right to connect and be human (northnode in Cancer) and not let fear/insecurities instilled by our leaders (southnode in Capricorn) rob us of our right to be human (northnode in cancer).

In Esoteric astrology Neptune Rules Cancer.

I am sure someone else can interpret the nodes in a totally different way and please do so if you feel inspired.

posted April 14, 2020 11:48 PM            

This guy doesn't care who dies, as
long as he gets what he wants: http://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/politics/trey-hollingsworth-coronavirus/index.html

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An Indiana congressman said Tuesday that letting more Americans die from the novel coronavirus is the "lesser of two evils" compared with the economy cratering due to social distancing measures.

Speaking with radio station WIBC in Indiana, Republican Rep. Trey Hollingsworth asserted that, while he appreciated the science behind the virus' spread, "it is always the American government's position to say, in the choice between the loss of our way of life as Americans and the loss of life, of American lives, we have to always choose the latter."

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posted April 15, 2020 02:54 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
"Malachite can be a powerful ally for those waiting for their reality to change. It reminds us we have come here to co-create with the Universe, and helps in identifying the steps necessary to bring dreams, visions and wishes into physical reality."

"http://www.crystalvaults.com/crystal-encyclopedia/malachite"

That statement feels very Jupiter in Aquarius guys! Makes me feel hopeful about this transit for all of us collectively.

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I see myself becoming more Aquarius,
I think I've always thought things as an independent individual but more so even now.

Especially with COVID-19 and separating myself with "sheep" who can't think for themselves.

I literately did a Gemini Sun 360 change the other day.

I think I mentioned it before, I spend the weekdays in a downtown condo in the heart of the city with everything within walking distance and my weekends on my dad's family farm out in the country.

The plan was to get the right balance of being in the city and not getting left behind. While also improving my back country skills (FYI I love manning a campfire, its like working a boiler) to an acceptable level.

Anyway, I drew up plans several years ago in case I was going to turn to a more self sufficient lifestyle on the farm, I'm going ahead with most of these.

I've already started my seedling planters In a couple weeks once the germination process is finished I should be able to take them out of the pots and transfer my vegetables into the ground.

Most people don't realize that the biggest victim of COVID-19 will be globalization.
So maybe it might be a good idea to learn some skills in self sufficiency.

If you can grow your own vegetables do it or at least learn how to.

The biggest hesitation of being out on the farm was me having to drive there and the mileage/maintenance costs of having a vehicle living out there.

But it doesn't matter anymore because of COVID-19 there will be a plethora of cheap used cars flooding the market and with it cheap used parts for you to do your own repairs.

A lot of people don't realize it but a lot of the 1%ers and the truly wealthy already started buying up big pieces of land years ago to be in isolation. Mainly for investment but also in case of some kind of upcoming disaster.

posted April 15, 2020 10:51 AM            

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@dualgem

I admire your foresight! Seems like with a natal Aquarius Jupiter you are already better at seeing the future than most of us!

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I admire you, your too sweet to say that!!!!.

I was a bit pessimistic when I wrote that, now you have me smiling.

If the rest of the day doesn't go well remember you at least made someones day today!!.

posted April 15, 2020 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I admire you, your too sweet to say that!!!!.

I was a bit pessimistic when I wrote that, now you have me smiling.

If the rest of the day doesn't go well remember you at least made someones day today!!.

My Planets
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I didn't find your thoughts pessimistic, but rather "realistic" and even smart

posted April 15, 2020 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I didn't find your thoughts pessimistic, but rather "realistic" and even smart

That's great! I'm glad I made you happy. Indeed I needed this news; this morning I found out my academic funding has been canceled due to the pandemic, and I am pretty much forced to choose to defer my admission for Fall 2021 instead.

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I guess I will have to wait until 2021 until I can call you postdoc.

I hope I'm not being presumptuous but

The positive is if you haven't met your supervisor and faculty at least its a good time to do so, academia can be very toxic if you end up developing a bad rapport with your supervisor. Better to find that out now before its too late.

Or if you have ignore everything I said above.

posted April 15, 2020 12:53 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I guess I will have to wait until 2021 until I can call you postdoc.

I hope I'm not being presumptuous but

The positive is if you haven't met your supervisor and faculty at least its a good time to do so, academia can be very toxic if you end up developing a bad rapport with your supervisor. Better to find that out now before its too late.

Or if you have ignore everything I said above.

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Thanks a lot for your advice. It was actually a master's and my supervisor had promised me that I would be able to transit to the PhD after a semester (in Spring 2021) because I already hold a master's. But everything now seems so uncertain and foggy.

I never met him in person but he seemed alright and actually very down to earth for someone who has a Ph.D. from MIT. He's quite young too and is Egyptian or Syrian I think, not sure. Anyway, it was such a famous university and would have been a great opportunity.

I will now get other academic projects going to get my chances up if I want to apply again to another school next year. This Fall I may start a PhD with the supervisor of my master's, he has already agreed to take me in.

But I now kind of feel stuck at where I am. May the new Aquarius Saturn help me!