posted April 17, 2020 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
If its a question of Aries Vs. Leo without other placements to consider then i'd say Aries energy because the Aries will charge right it into it.

...But when it comes to Aries Sun, Leo moon and Leo Sun, Aries moon I think it's a draw.

I know a Leo sun, Aries moon and an Aries sun, Leo moon female.

The Aries Sun, Leo moon went from undergrad->phd in exactly 6yrs, non-stop.

The Leo Sun, Aries moon girl is just finishing her masters. But credit must be given to the fact that her dad is an a$$hole and gave her no financial support even though he could have, its made her stronger thought and determined to succeed.

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☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑

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That reminds me I have an Aries ASC friend who pretty much made it to where she was w/o much support from family. She moved around a lot growing up. When she was done with college she moved into my parents basement for two years. Got her big girl job right after college. But went on to law school while working. Met the love of her life there. When they first split it was difficult to move on. They started seeing each other again. Then she got pregnant.
I got to see her go from my parents basement, to an apartment, to renting a house, to buying her first home with a pool in yard, and now moving in with her love to a house on the lake!

posted April 17, 2020 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
If its a question of Aries Vs. Leo without other placements to consider then i'd say Aries energy because the Aries will charge right it into it.

...But when it comes to Aries Sun, Leo moon and Leo Sun, Aries moon I think it's a draw.

I know a Leo sun, Aries moon and an Aries sun, Leo moon female.

The Aries Sun, Leo moon went from undergrad->phd in exactly 6yrs, non-stop.

The Leo Sun, Aries moon girl is just finishing her masters. But credit must be given to the fact that her dad is an a$$hole and gave her no financial support even though he could have, its made her stronger thought and determined to succeed.

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☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑

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posted April 17, 2020 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
That reminds me I have an Aries ASC friend who pretty much made it to where she was w/o much support from family. She moved around a lot growing up. When she was done with college she moved into my parents basement for two years. Got her big girl job right after college. But went on to law school while working. Met the love of her life there. When they first split it was difficult to move on. They started seeing each other again. Then she got pregnant.
I got to see her go from my parents basement, to an apartment, to renting a house, to buying her first home with a pool in yard, and now moving in with her love to a house on the lake!

I think it's important to mention that she also has a Capricorn Mars to make her physically goal oriented and a hard worker against her odds with the can do Aries ASC. With her Taurus sun I think it makes a go getter materialistically too.

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i think people really overrate cap mars capability tbh, i have it and i don't really see myself as that sort of person

mine is very loosely conjunct neptune in one direction and my ic in the other, squares my libra ascendant/venus and aries moon

posted April 17, 2020 06:36 PM            

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As a Scorpio moon 6th house, that is pretty accurate! I can be very loyal to a place I work.
I worked at a place from 2010-2016. This place showed me that it was possible to work with people who are normal, nice, sometimes friendship and at least neutral! It does not need to be a sorority, I just need mutual respect, get paid so I can do whatever I want outside of work. It really wasn't the people that pushed me out. It was the lack of hours. I after I earned my associates. I could not work 15 hours a week. Though my last year I worked with an awful teacher I just said if I don't find a new job over the summer I just ask that I am put in a different room.

2016-18: Was the most toxic hostile work environment I have ever experienced. Within the first month I was already looking on indeed.com. I put up with it for the holiday breaks. And I told myself to put up with it cause I will move next year. (bf ended not being ready) So the second year was the last straw. I decided I had to get out of there Nov 2017. And it took me 10 months to get a new job. I have never felt more unwelcomed by people in my entire life! There were good people there, but I was isolated from them pretty much, and was stuck working with all the jerks. My last year was very "I have to get out here!" People supported me, but people were like you can't just quit. You have to get another job.

2018-? I love my co-workers. My first assistant was friendly but also overbearing. It was complicated, we has a friendliness but she also drove me crazy a lot. The boss has pushed me to the point where she is on my list for being a garbage human being. I reached my breaking point. In January/February. I was on the verge of rage quitting. One of my co-workers talked me out of it. Thanks to her, I have stayed there. She basically stood up for me.

But I am so tired this. I am not sad about social distancing because in the last 5 years there is always one garbage person who ruins the whole work environment for me. I am enjoying my space from working with garbage people. I have been pushed to the point where welfare queen sounds appealing. I really feel like after what I have been though, I am not missing out and asking the universe to be a stay at home mom.
My experiences have me feeling like. If I am frugal with my spending. I do not need a 40 hour work week. Valuing my time is greater than impressing people for being such a hard worker. 2018 had me decide I need to at least work 20 hours. I was at 30 hours with my teaching job.
Working w/ garbage people though motivates me to do more with my life. Like if everyone was good enough at my 2016 job...I would not be working towards a bachelors right now.
It seems like I will be having powerful work related astrology transits until retirement age. Maybe in my next life I can be a socialite. haha! Or a cat.
My boss drove me up a frickin wall that I decided to get my bachelors done this summer instead of the fall.

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Awww sweetheart, I'm sorry you've been through this.
I was literally making fun of a cliche placement...
I've had my share of bad working environment trust me! BUT! It has changed over the past 2 years.
Something very simple: I pretended it was my fault, to myself, so that I would be the one to change, because I know you can't change people, especially the garbage ones, but you can manage them! 😉
And so I did, it was awfully difficult but with the proper amount of observation and discipline you can figure out the things you have to do, can't do or should do so that others aren't triggered.
I consider that work intelligence, it's essential to understand how you fit in a system and what is expected of you in order to sustain, and a lot of times at work, it's not about your skills or even personality, it's about the emotional climate in which those who were there before evolve and how you affect that just by being there.
It sounds like a chore and it can be, but if you like the job, it's so worth it. And also for yourself, to realise that you don't have to suffer these situations, you can make yourself relatively safe, it's worth something.
Of course it's not perfect, there are still people who will make it difficult for me and jeopardise my situation but at least I know I did everything I could to make them look like fools compared to the amount of dedication I've shown for the position and there'd be no point in trying to control everything.

posted April 17, 2020 06:56 PM            

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posted April 17, 2020 08:42 PM            

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My Aries moon may have given him a few great ideas haha, but I get bored too easy and don’t have the patience to see anything through. When I want something done, I.want.it.done.right.NOW - so most of the time if it’s not something that won’t give me immediate results, I don’t even bother.

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Fellow Aries mooner here.

I know that feeling sometimes I have to remind myself that Rome wasn't built in a day.

Right now I've already been convinced that Coronovirus will have indirect consequences on globalization.

So as a contingency plan I figured I will start growing my own vegetables. So I started my own planters they should be ready in 2 weeks to be transferred into the ground.

Now I have this urge to grow 100 acres of vegetables. If its a good growing season I want to bank on as many harvests as I can.

If I can get at least 2 harvests in one season I've struck gold!!!

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☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑

posted April 17, 2020 10:08 PM            

But, there's no way I could initiate action as much as an Aries.

Not near enough energy.

When I was married to an Aries, she would act and I would close the deal.

posted April 18, 2020 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Stawr you are definitely a go getter and very driven!

You have sun in aries with mars in 10th house conjuct MC so that to me explains your drive. I think you are awesome.

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posted April 18, 2020 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i think people really overrate cap mars capability tbh, i have it and i don't really see myself as that sort of person

mine is very loosely conjunct neptune in one direction and my ic in the other, squares my libra ascendant/venus and aries moon

i'll make things work and all where i can but i've also spent a lot of my life just ******* around

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Thanks for enlightening me on the placement more. Capricorn Mars sounds like a lot to live up to.

I personally know 2 people with this placement, my sister and our friend I mentioned. I guess Mars was in Cappy a lot in 1986.

For a millennial my sister was ready to settle down in her 20's. Pretty much mainly an A and B student in HS. Had the teenage hardship of realizing she wasn't that good at soccer when she went to a bigger HS. Was a track captain by senior year, also involved with tennis. Would friendzone a certain guy and tell her friends that there was nothing going on with him.

Did the whole college dorm life thing. She got sick of it pretty fast. And would end up talking on the phone a lot at night with her guy friend from HS. She finally decided to date him and move in with him after one year of campus life. My sister also went through that "where is this relationship going!?" phase. She dropped hard hints and even made the engagement ring she wanted as her screen saver. She got married when she was 23. Holy cow! They bought their first house in a good area when she was only 22 as well.

Funny thing my past two relationships the guys were mad at all my sister's accomplishments for her age as a millennial. I once dated a guy older than my sister who fantasied about winning the lottery and rubbing in my sisters face! He would ask me what do you think she would do if I told her that?

Uhh and then this other guy who seemed more normal would judge my sister for having two living rooms, and would try to poopoo her. Like "when aaahhhhIIII have a house, there will not be rooms that are not used. This guy lived in his mom's garage in the meantime."

My fiance is the only guy who has not been threatened with my sisters accomplishments.

I can relate to the beeping around, but then making things work out. I guess you can say I was driven about beeping around for a while.

While my sister has accomplished some things, she is also in a lot of debt from it.
It took me a longer time to get my $h1+ together. But I also am a millennial with zero debt. And I will also get my bachelors degree with out going into debt. I may not be 22 getting my degree but I have accomplished something somewhat unique.

posted April 18, 2020 10:03 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I'd say Aries only because you mentioned "go getter".

I'm a Leo. My father was an Aries.

My ex-wife was also an Aries.

A go getter to me, means initiating action.

They may not stay the course.

I'd say an Aries initiates actions more than a Leo.

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^ this I agree with. (Not the personal portions lol) I've known both thru work, friendships and family - Aries can start and finish as long as nothing gets in their way.

posted April 18, 2020 10:26 PM            

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Librapurr: Yes I cannot stand conflict in my work environment either. If I do not vibe well with someone and I have to work closely with them, I need to get out of there. Or if someone has a supervisor role to me and they abuse their power, that can be difficult. I have to go to a different department or get out of there.
I want the work dynamic to work so bad it takes so much to finally put the person on my **** list.

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Agree. When it’s somebody with supervising, it’s extra annoying. I almost want to scream “You’re supposed to manage conflicts by your job description, not to produce them!”
However, its hard for me to just move on. I’m kinda disappearing in Neptune + Aqua IC style, filling up with disappointments and slowly detaching more and more. Till the last drop when Uranus kicks in.

“I have found Marie Dubuque's youtube videos to be super helpful to me. She does a lot of advice videos on social relationships.”

I like how brief and on point her videos. Thank you.

“Yes there were many times this school year where I did not feel appreciated and respected at all. I am baffled at people who want to put down people who are doing jobs no one else wants to do. I am the only teacher who has the heart to teach a 2 1/2 year old classes. And one of the only teachers who is willing to do aftercare. Because of how I was treated this year, I decided to say no if asked to do anymore after care days. Yeah that is the worst feeling when it's like I put my self through college to be treated this way??? “

I think this’s what these experiences for. To teach you how to say no and think about your needs and ambitions.
I had delusions somebody gonna notice and appreciate when you pick up hours for them, or work - not much people want, or don’t have much demands. Nope, somebody just starts to think it’s ok and pushes your boundaries.

“Wishing you well on your work relationship journey.
The planets have been making me work very hard in this department. (Neptune transit 10 house, Jupiter in my 6th a few yrs ago, and all the Capricorn planets squaring my sun back and forth this year)
My Libra Sun sister had a narcissist boss for 3 years. She was pretty much looking for a new job the entire time. My sister was fine working part time at her new job once it was over. Now that I think about it my sister has butted heads with supervisors a lot. She experienced Pluto square Sun transit early, Neptune squared her Saturn, and Neptune transit 10th house. Her job make her pretty miserable during this time.
Pluto in the first house sounds fun but I'm sure it takes time to master the energy.
Pluto is in my 6th house cojunct moon and Lilith. ayeyieyie.”
Oh, This sounds like pretty dark for work. I hope you find a way to manage your situations successfully. I think positive thinking can make it better.
I see you have a lot of Aries go-getter things. Good for you.
My Aries mother is more successful than me and even after 60 has more energy than I’ve ever had. However, it’s a slippery slope to live trying to fulfill expectations of your parents or compete with someone.

posted April 18, 2020 11:57 PM            

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It took me a longer time to get my $h1+ together. But I also am a millennial with zero debt. And I will also get my bachelors degree with out going into debt. I may not be 22 getting my degree but I have accomplished something somewhat unique.

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I'm surprised my Aries moon doesn't trine or conjunct Aries suns as much as my Taurus Venus does with Taurus suns.

I share the same thoughts and in a similar position.

I knew a lot of classmates that decided to go on a loan thinking that they'll make the money back since a BSc or B.Eng is more employable then a BA.

While true in some sense there paying for it, almost all the money they make goes back to the input costs they spent to get there.

Nothing irritates me more then seeing someone that completed a BSc in Biology
then goes to health sciences and figures they can make back all the money spent going into debt and then some.

posted April 19, 2020 12:39 AM            

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Awww sweetheart, I'm sorry you've been through this.
I was literally making fun of a cliche placement...
I've had my share of bad working environment trust me! BUT! It has changed over the past 2 years.
Something very simple: I pretended it was my fault, to myself, so that I would be the one to change, because I know you can't change people, especially the garbage ones, but you can manage them! 😉
And so I did, it was awfully difficult but with the proper amount of observation and discipline you can figure out the things you have to do, can't do or should do so that others aren't triggered.
I consider that work intelligence, it's essential to understand how you fit in a system and what is expected of you in order to sustain, and a lot of times at work, it's not about your skills or even personality, it's about the emotional climate in which those who were there before evolve and how you affect that just by being there.
It sounds like a chore and it can be, but if you like the job, it's so worth it. And also for yourself, to realise that you don't have to suffer these situations, you can make yourself relatively safe, it's worth something.
Of course it's not perfect, there are still people who will make it difficult for me and jeopardise my situation but at least I know I did everything I could to make them look like fools compared to the amount of dedication I've shown for the position and there'd be no point in trying to control everything.

As for welfare queen, that doesn't exist. I've spent a third of my life on welfare, another on charity, I was never a queen. Now I work full time and I struggle to make ends meet, if I lived off welfare, I wouldn't make rent.
If we're talking Scorpio, then let's act like Scorpios: don't dream a fantasy of easiness and miracle solutions, accept reality's difficulty and show her who she was stupid enough to pick up a fight with 😉
Staying at home with children is one of the best jobs ever and if it's your calling; GO for it 😊 but don't think that those ****** work situations are stronger than you are, you are the boss of you, it's all about finding the job that's worth the hassle (sometimes the ******* at the coffee machine are crazy and just don't want to stay there, you know? ), or getting to know yourself: maybe you just won’t adapt because it’s not for you, we can’t all be team players and there’s nothing wrong with that, plenty of jobs to do with a lot of shots to call on your own, or even be your own boss, find your thing, what you really want to do, or something that’s pleasant enough to do it’s worth spending your time at and apply yourself to making it work, whether it means making nice with unfair people, tolerating garbage or creating your own business.
Hang in there kitten 😊

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posted April 19, 2020 01:05 AM            

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I consider that work intelligence, it's essential to understand how you fit in a system and what is expected of you in order to sustain, and a lot of times at work, it's not about your skills or even personality, it's about the emotional climate in which those who were there before evolve and how you affect that just by being there.
It sounds like a chore and it can be, but if you like the job, it's so worth it. And also for yourself, to realise that you don't have to suffer these situations, you can make yourself relatively safe, it's worth something.
Of course it's not perfect, there are still people who will make it difficult for me and jeopardise my situation but at least I know I did everything I could to make them look like fools compared to the amount of dedication I've shown for the position and there'd be no point in trying to control everything.

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I think for Aries, it’s almost an impossible approach, too much fire.😊 That’s why they’re paired with Libra to support the emotional climate.

I often suppressed half of my personality to avoid work/ school problems, but Pluto 1st and Uranus prevented me from completely losing myself and become people-pleaser. I thought if I learned to suppress my emotions better and kissed the right ***** , my life would be much better.
However, how you said, sometimes, it doesn’t matter how hard you try. Some people still find something to dislike about you.

“If we're talking Scorpio, then let's act like Scorpios: don't dream a fantasy of easiness and miracle solutions, accept reality's difficulty and show her who she was stupid enough to pick up a fight with 😉”

This could be fun 😉 I think I’m gradually coming to it. But desire to be good and not come across the wrong way prevent me from acting “smart”. Or too much emotions.
I’m not good with games and manipulations. I try to self talk about it’s not that bad and sometimes necessary, but still not there. Unfortunately, much people cannot appreciate nice and honest approach.
You have some good ideas here.

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I’ve had my share of attracting all kinds of nasty projections and ensuing destructive behaviours unleashed on my face and it cost a lot, from my personal motivation to actual jobs...
As I was explaining Stawr, I found a way to create Libran balance by adapting and using my low self-esteem as an asset (I pretend everything is my fault and correct accordingly). Usually when people go toxic on you, they have an ego bruise so anything that suggests you don't is torture for them and they attack in response. Your 1st house Pluto, my Scorpio Mars and Leo rising conjunct Venus…. all those are big fat signs on our foreheads that say “I handle my crises internally so that must mean I have none, please come kick me and give me some, the real stuff!”

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This explains a lot, thanks. The days when I find my inner power and confidence. I often get someone trying to ruin it. When I filled with anxiety and insecurities, people like me better.
I think unconsciously I felt what you said, and tried to make myself worse so people could relate better. It’s kinda miserable..

However, after your experiences, mine might be not that bad. Sorry, you needed to go through a,lot of bad things.

“Of course you don't want to be a victim or a doormat, balance is key, but showing you respect their input (even if it’s stupid and batshit cray and the input has nothing to do with work and it’s just rumours) usually smoothens things enough to bring safety back 😊.”

With my Uranus and Pluto, balance is hard, everything changing often. I always try to be understanding and somehow nice, but If’s upsetting when I don’t get even half of these in return. it’s probably generally about people. I guess concentration should be on getting stuff done, people around should be just managed. It’s kinda sad... When you start to take it personally - everything going the wrong direction..


“They behave like dogs with me, I treat them just like that. I’d never fight an angry dog nor let its spirits taint mine, I’d make sure it feels safe enough around me so that it won’t attack. Same with people “

It’s hard for me to think like that. With my Venus/Neptune, I need to believe there’s something good in some people around to keep coming over, but I know, eventually, they gonna disappoint me anyway. My moon wildly conj. AC so sometimes it’s hard to disguise my real mood.

posted April 19, 2020 02:12 AM            

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Agree. When it’s somebody with supervising, it’s extra annoying. I almost want to scream “You’re supposed to manage conflicts by your job description, not to produce them!”
However, its hard for me to just move on. I’m kinda disappearing in Neptune + Aqua IC style, filling up with disappointments and slowly detaching more and more. Till the last drop when Uranus kicks in.
I like how brief and on point her videos. Thank you.

I think this’s what these experiences for. To teach you how to say no and think about your needs and ambitions.
I had delusions somebody gonna notice and appreciate when you pick up hours for them, or work - not much people want, or don’t have much demands. Nope, somebody just starts to think it’s ok and pushes your boundaries.
Pluto is in my 6th house cojunct moon and Lilith. ayeyieyie.”
Oh, This sounds like pretty dark for work. I hope you find a way to manage your situations successfully. I think positive thinking can make it better.
I see you have a lot of Aries go-getter things. Good for you.
My Aries mother is more successful than me and even after 60 has more energy than I’ve ever had. However, it’s a slippery slope to live trying to fulfill expectations of your parents or compete with someone.

I think I don’t feel really like 1st Pluto myself, it’s more the others sense it in me. Or maybe, because of my Neptune sq. AC ruler- they project the wrong image on me.
Also, transit Lilith in 6th house + Uranus squares MC (getting wider) + Personal planets squares more than year. Couple people with narcissistic inclinations disappeared from my life during Pluto transits.
Your Lilith in 6th: Do you think they see you as a Black moon or somebody at work being your Black moon, or you have some unconscious desire to be Lilith sometimes?

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posted April 19, 2020 10:38 AM            

Haha true about Aries, not just the fire but the cardinal mode. My Aries colleagues constantly headbutt lol
I feel you, I too have often wished for a mellower personality or the gifts of hypocrisy and arse kissing, but that’s just not me, I couldn’t do that to save my life lol (Pluto sextiles my rising and Venus and I’m a Virgo sun, integrity means everything to me). I just found that who I am doesn’t have to perspire through every single thing I say and do and since people can and will speak in whatever terms they wish, not trying to control how they read you is a very good way not to be misread. If you’ve given a whole elaborate answer and someone comes in for a fight, there is a lot to detangle, someone comes with the same fire over just a few words, unless those words were **** , **** and **** , it’s on them and not your job to waste any energy on it.

I never let anyone mess with me at work. My work is off limit, it’s very dear to me so anyone who criticises it better have some ground and clear intentions otherwise it hits the fan. My personality? As long as we’re not touching “professional” sides of it, I couldn’t care less. I trust my hierarchy to sort out poor feedback based on my outfit and poor feedback based on my actual skills and if it doesn’t, then it wasn’t a place I was meant to work at anyway.

I wouldn’t define myself as a people pleaser although I do have a deep and strong urge to help and serve and I hate coming off as rude… being nice and polite is important to me, which is why I picked a job that allowed for that side of myself to express itself, that way I have no dilemma about not entering office politics as any second I save serves a job which purpose is to help and serve and be pleasant. It’s a conscience saviour 😊

I couldn’t manipulate or play games to save my life either, the innocent Leo energy ruins me that way. So I make my honesty my shield, that way people never outsmart me, we simply don’t go by the same rules and there is no comparison.

You can’t change people, and, we’re people to, so changing, especially because others won’t behave decently is super tough, the work of a lifetime. Some days are good you breeze away from the bullies and other days you walk right into their den, but if you have a job that really suits you and you more or less keep to an appropriate line of conduct (again, ‘working intelligence’, it won’t be the same everywhere), then there is nothing so terrible it makes your life hell.

Yes, this society has a ****** up way of imposing we become super confident and put ourselves out there (otherwise you get nothing and get blamed for it because you weren’t enough of a hustler) but the second you do you get blamed for being arrogant and attacked in all kinds of ways… being a minority (gender, ethnic…) does not help in this matter ^^

The more people are insecure, the more they’re afraid of others. I feel it too, sometimes someone with less experience in the job comes in and they seem to have it all figured out, results are good too and it crushes me, makes me feel incompetent, vulnerable… I just get my **** together and try harder, I don’t enter in some vicious circle where I’ll try to damage them, their work or their reputation, that will only guarantee I don’t get any better at my job and all those things that made me insecure will only grow.

Exactly, you should never dumb yourself down or anything yourself down for that matter, for anyone. But sometimes it means you have to be ready to take needless attacks from people who project their stuff. If you glow, you glow. I try to do it with my mouth shut, it seems to keep the lions at bay lol

I’m good, thanks 😊 The bad experiences I’ve had taught me a lot. Even if I never did anything really bad, I came to face where I was partially responsible in terms of where I could act and by changing those, now I have much better relationships at work. It took a lot of humble pie eating to accept my responsibility in it, but I came through because being responsible doesn’t mean I did anything bad or was wrong, crazy people spreading rumours are, but it’s still an interaction.

It was the best advice I’s given when I started to work “don’t expect any acknowledgement”, now of course it’s impossible, we’re human beings, we want to be acknowledged, and praised… but the more you practise self-love, the freer you are from the validations of others, even through something so small as a thank you, and you can move on from it more easily.

“ I guess concentration should be on getting stuff done, people around should be just managed.”
Exactly!
It is sad, I mean I’m still not over the fact I have a part time job of managing colleagues on top of my actual job, I love my job I want to do that instead of managing people, but it’s part of it ^^

Taking things personally is the death of professional interaction, it’s like a cancer that flares up when you least expect it, but even though no one is immune to it, you can build up a resistance 😉

You don’t get me. There is nothing bad about an angry dog, deep down inside it’s the same good boy who rests their head on your lap when you’re sad and plays fetch with you. It’s not looking down on them in the least, on the opposite, it’s looking at them with deep compassion. When I dodge a fight the subtext isn’t “it’s below me and so are you”, it’s “I’m sorry you feel so bad you need to attack me for no reason”. Your Venus/ Neptune should actually be great help. I know my moon parallel Neptune sure is 😊

A colleague who trashed me last year and it almost cost me my job, recently asked me for help. She didn’t actually, she grabbed me by the arm and say “help me with this, I suck and you’re good at it” (not necessarily true but she thinks it). I could have used a thousand crappy reasons to walk out of it. I could also have thrown it back in her face when she constantly prevented me from actually helping her because she wanted to do it herself. But I didn’t, I felt so sorry that her sense of self worth was so fragile that she couldn’t accept not being the one doing all of her work with zero help, I patiently waited each tile she interrupted me and had her redo what I had just done so she would be the “do-er”. It took three times the time it’d have taken if I had done it on my own, but it wasn’t about me doing it, it was about her needing help and by coming out of it with the thing done by her, she felt validated and proud and those feelings weren’t threatened by anything as I was genuinely happy she felt that way. We have a much better relationship right now and she has come for help in much relaxed ways since and has even offered some herself. Sometimes, there’s a happy ending 😊

posted April 20, 2020 11:43 PM            

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I think most fixed signs are lazy sobs, Aqua invents stuff so that it does not need to work hard, Taurus works hard so that it can laze around, Leo just sits...

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posted April 20, 2020 11:58 PM            

Also, people recognise Leo energy as a "royal" - "natural leader" - type of influence... so Leos are often supported and helped by others to attain those leadership positions.

I would say Aries is more the go-getter of the two.. because Mars energy fights for everything it earns.. There's that fighting/winning spirit about Aries.

posted April 21, 2020 10:43 AM            

Hunger games is a way to look at it to succeed😊 lol

“So right, if everyone just got along I would not accomplish what I have. I feel like the more people try to “put me in my place” the more I level up. “

I see when you’re ready to settle for something (often less), hard transits come to show you it’s not where you’re supposed to be. I just wish these Pluto lessons would come in a nicer way.. However, I have a tendency to get stuck in wrong situations So I kinda need a kick to get out.

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Woah that makes me realize Pisces is my 10th and 11th house. Boundaries are so needed in the workplace. I have been working on work boundaries since my early 20’s. Yeah simply being polite, friendly a hard worker does not equal respect. Sigh. But firm established boundaries feels so good! Oh and people will test if your no really means no. I’ve had practice with a friend lately (phone calls and texting boundaries)”

It’s good to acknowledge it’s in time. Venus 11th sq. Neptune. Boundaries, what? 😊 Thanks to Libra ability to put a distance, otherwise it could end up pretty bad.
With long-term relationships, putting boundaries is especially difficult. It could be taken the very wrong way, like a relationship is getting cold.


“I feel like Pluto transits in a way are like going though hell and back. Where I get to a point where I am basically just like you don’t scare me. Lol I feel like Uranus conjunct my Mercury soon will be the answer to my prayers too. My communication will be liberated. But Saturn will keep me from getting carried away. “

Oh, I think with Uranus - Saturn must have. My transit Uranus opp. Mercury giving me ADD. Wish your luck dealing with Pluto. I’d need it too..

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I don’t buy into meanies wanting to take me down a peg. I do get mad in sense of “can’t I just do my job” I love when these people get what’s coming to them weather I had anything to do with it or not. While they can get a taste of their own medicine really they aren’t gonna go anywhere. So at that point living well is the best revenge. While leveling up can feel like final jab. Maybe they think they won cause I left, but then it’s like hear though the grape vine what I am doing now! Booyah!

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posted April 21, 2020 11:11 AM            

With my Chiron in Gemini, sometimes the more I try to explain the more misunderstandings it creates. I’m coming to the point of stopping to explain and just let everybody think what they want.

“It was the best advice I’s given when I started to work “don’t expect any acknowledgement”, now of course it’s impossible, we’re human beings, we want to be acknowledged, and praise”

As too much Libra, good feedbacks are important. But people are more willing to give feedback when something is wrong. Plus, Venus sq. Neptune make it hard to serve people when everything disappoints you often. ( I wish it’d be parallel, not sq. I love Neptune energy to cut it off what would be helpful).
Balancing between being Pluto-cool and Neptune- naive fool -making everybody confused about my character. Lol

“the more you practise self-love, the freer you are from the validations of others”

Yes, this is helpful. Also, it’s great when you love your job. With my Uranus, I’ve never could commit to one occupation.
One Aries/ Capricorn said “:you need to take pride in your work”. Easy for Aries/Capricorn 😊

“Yes, this society has a ****** up way of imposing we become super confident and put ourselves out there (otherwise you get nothing and get blamed for it because you weren’t enough of a hustler) but the second you do you get blamed for being arrogant and attacked in all kinds of ways… “

So truth! Never good enough.

“I patiently waited each tile she interrupted me and had her redo what I had just done so she would be the “do-er”. It took three times the time it’d have taken if I had done it on my own, but it wasn’t about me doing it, it was about her needing help and by coming out of it with the thing done by her, “

posted June 07, 2020 07:59 AM            

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and why?

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Wow, very good question!
Thank goodness I have influences of both, haha!