posted April 30, 2020 01:23 PM            

However, my experience has shown me that you should not be certain that the Asc figure is precisely correct simply because it is calculated based on a recorded birth time. So the real question in my mind as a rectifier is what is the precisely correct Asc degree. Answering that question with no doubt left will show the real relationship between Moon & Asc and allow you to better answer the question.

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posted April 30, 2020 05:05 PM            

The mainstream astrological community generally agree that "a person of average sensitivity is likely to feel the effects of conjunctions with an orb of 8 degrees or less" - but some practitioners extend this to 10 degrees if the Sun or Moon is involved. And John Addey suggested maximum conjunction orbs of 12 degrees are valid, based on empirical evidence obtained whilst developing his theory on harmonic aspects.

Significantly though, anyone with a serious interest in the study of astrology is likely to be more sensitive to these influences than an average chart owner. So, the test is ... Do YOU feel the effects of this Moon-Asc conjunction when it is activated by progressions and transits making a temporary aspect to it of no more than 1 degree?

posted May 03, 2020 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I'd at least use the 50% orb adjustment at astro.

If I'm too long, I'd know it eventually.

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posted May 03, 2020 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
In this scenario, using the topocentric method of positioning, Moon would be 13� or very near it -- assuming the 22� Asc mark is correct to the degree. That would be more like a 9� separation, but still not likely to show up definitively in personal qualities given it is a separating aspect. If it were applying, Moon in 1st house, different story.

However, my experience has shown me that you should not be certain that the Asc figure is precisely correct simply because it is calculated based on a recorded birth time. So the real question in my mind as a rectifier is what is the precisely correct Asc degree. Answering that question with no doubt left will show the real relationship between Moon & Asc and allow you to better answer the question.

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posted May 03, 2020 09:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Orbs are just a mechanism for judging the likelihood of a chart owner "feeling" the effects/influence of an aspect.

The mainstream astrological community generally agree that "a person of average sensitivity is likely to feel the effects of conjunctions with an orb of 8 degrees or less" - but some practitioners extend this to 10 degrees if the Sun or Moon is involved. And John Addey suggested maximum conjunction orbs of 12 degrees are valid, based on empirical evidence obtained whilst developing his theory on harmonic aspects.

Significantly though, anyone with a serious interest in the study of astrology is likely to be more sensitive to these influences than an average chart owner. So, the test is ... Do YOU feel the effects of this Moon-Asc conjunction when it is activated by progressions and transits making a temporary aspect to it of no more than 1 degree?

If yes ... The 12 degree natal orb is valid. ... If no, the orb is too wide?

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posted May 03, 2020 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Do you do that with all natals? Meaning you only use a 5 degree orb...

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Yes, for conjunctions.

Sometimes more, as low as 20%, if I have a bunch of asteroids and I'm showing all connections.

I just want to see the good stuff.

I wasn't always like this, of course.

posted May 03, 2020 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Do you use larger orb for approaching ones ? Considering the fact that 'its gonna happen' I guess.

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In the case of the Asc applying to a planet, yes. For example, My Asc at 17° Virgo applying in very wide conjunction with Pluto at 25°. It qualifies I think as a very wide conjunction that has psychological characteristics I can relate to somewhat, but not to physical characteristics of stamina, relentless drive and recuperative ability. I do not have those qualities. Even less were Pluto to be in the 12th house with the Asc 8° past it. That I would not count as a conjunction at all. I think 5° would be more the max for Pluto.

An interior system planet or a luminary would be more perceivable in its more palpable or physical characteristics in this kind of scenario, but more so in the applying aspect. So Moon would definitely be very present in the personality if Asc were applying towards it in the 1st house, even if still 8-10° away, but not if separating that wide from Moon in 12th.

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Expert birth chart rectification

posted May 05, 2020 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Yes, for conjunctions.

Sometimes more, as low as 20%, if I have a bunch of asteroids and I'm showing all connections.

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You're left with no personality though 😂