posted May 04, 2020 09:08 PM            

It feels like every relationship that progresses in my life — meaning after the first few days, when it starts to develop meaning — falls prey to this 12th house hidden curse, and it’s making me sad. It doesn’t even matter how conscious somebody is, this happens to even my most magical friendships too.

I notice that the way people give me love is something they hide from the world. It makes me feel like my loved ones are ashamed to demonstrate that they love me, and so they only do it secretly. Sometimes I just want a LOUD LEONINE kind of love!!! A love that is a declaration. The shouting from the mountainside kind of love, where you want the world to know that you are so proud to love this person.

Instead, I just have a bunch of ******* creepy stalkers.... great! People, normal people(!) high-achieving socially intelligent and accomplished people (!) who just secretly constantly check up on me and stay on top of what I’m doing but don’t say anything to anyone about me and don’t send me love in a normal way, only a hidden weird private back channel way.

I know I shouldn’t need the validation but it’s kind of bumming me out. I’m not Quasimodo here — I get compliments from strangers all the time when I go out, that’s nice. But then if things ever progress to Venus levels and the light drops off the love exchange. Why can’t a guy I like who likes me back just show it in a normal healthy way? Why does it always become shady with 12th house?

And then of course they spill to me all their problems and then I heal them (12th house). Grrreeeaat. And they go on to skip away and live their normal in-the-light lives with friends and lovers they are proud to be seen with.

Arrggghhh. Sorry for the rant. I’m just feeling sad and bummed.

posted May 12, 2020 03:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I have a 12H venus opposite Saturn and it did sometimes attract people who were on the shady side like you described when I was younger. Mostly married men, people who needed "fixing" and had a lot of issues, and in general people who hit on my own issues of not being good enough. The older I got the more I was unwilling to be the martyr in the relationship and worked on my own self worth outside of a relationship. The 12H isn't a bad house, it's the house that will show you exactly how to use that energy on a higher level, the level of spirit. If you don't incorporate this into your life, you'll be met with situations like you've described over and over until you are able to turn that energy inward and use it as a kind of foundation for yourself instead of an outward "woe is me" kind of thing.

I have to add that yes, the 12H comes with great healing abilities, and you will subconsciously attract those who need that from you but there's a catch. You have to heal yourself first and without ego. Hope this helps.

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posted May 12, 2020 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I don't think this is a 12H issue. My aunt with Venus in 12H has been happily married for the last 30 yrs to a very nice man who loves her lots.

What Venus sign do you have and what other aspects are to your Venus?

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Okay, well that heartens me to hear! I have some neutral-good aspects like semisextiles to Mercury and Uranus, both at 2 degrees. I have one positive aspect which is a bQ to Jupiter, so I do have a lot of luck finding lovers... just quiet ones 😑 but never a shortage of ones who want to celebrate our "love" in private 😑

The 2 painful aspects I have are a qunicunx to Chiron, which is maybe why this 12th position is so painful. Inconjuncts are just... uck energy. So uncomfortable and never sitting right. And I have a square to Juno -- never been married -- but lol definitely some marriage related anxiety as I'm 32 now and should be looking more intently toward that future.

posted June 30, 2020 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I don't think this is a 12H issue. My aunt with Venus in 12H has been happily married for the last 30 yrs to a very nice man who loves her lots.

What Venus sign do you have and what other aspects are to your Venus?

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