posted May 12, 2020 07:18 AM            

I know many dominant people in the Water, and they feel that they do not fit into the world, that they do not like even the extreme logic of the Earth, nor do they like the extreme rationality of the Air, and neither do they like the arrogance of Fire.

It's like these creatures of water, really aren't from this world.

The signs of Water believe in "everything that is not seen," and instead live in a world that forces them to believe only in what can be seen. In a world that forces them to be extremely rational, and the Water element is the wisest of the elements, and instead they feel continually humiliated and despised by rational people who treat them as if they were immature.

They're like five dominant people in Water that I know, and they all agree on the same thing.

posted May 12, 2020 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by WhiteBirds:
It's like these creatures of water, really aren't from this world.

The signs of Water believe in "everything that is not seen,"

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posted May 12, 2020 11:43 AM            

AXIS: VIRGO/PISCES
AXIS: CAPRICORN/CANCER
AXIS: TAURUS/SCORPIO

posted May 12, 2020 11:49 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:

I still find it tad hard to stay for a long time with a cancer tho, they just cry a lot, and so easily, im like wtf, i swear you did that less than an hour ago,, wtfff!! I need some aries moon around, and someone with sag mercury just to keep myself sane...you know breathe a bit of air..

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Hahahaha

posted May 13, 2020 01:13 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Hahahaha

Aries moon can be super emotional though they just go shooting or punch someone in the face or talk about their homicidal ideation or commit suicide.

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When someone starts talking about their homicidial ideation or commit suicide, it's not just "a talk", there will always burden feelings they can't handle anymore behind it that you may not know.

I have Aries moon and I do have some suicidal thoughts after I was raped and physically/verbally abused by my ex.

My mother is an Aries moon too but we are different. She is such a strict discipline, strong/alpha female, independent, and highly spiritual religious person. Like a soldier, I was raised with strict rules at home (same tight schedule everyday, once you broke the rules, there would always be a punishment where you would not want to get one, funny that she is an Aquarius like me, who's known as the rule breakers). Every weekend was a home cleaning day and in the night we would pray and read Bible until bed time, so I never had a chance to go outside with my friends hanging out. I and my siblings only had Sunday after church for a free time with friends which was only a few hours because there was a time schedule where you must be at home at 5. Education was a top priority, so good grades must be achieved or you wouldn't want to hear what would your other siblings get with their good grades. Toys, extra money pocket, any favorite foods (we used to eat only healthy foods, no junk foods allowed or beverages, but good grades gave you a one time free pass), to bicycle, basically what you wished for in your childhood were the prize for a good grade which you wouldn't get often, even in your birthday or Christmas Day. Having a relationship with the opposite sex wasn't allowed and living in a highly spiritual religious home environment, virginity was something my parents told you to keep it until marriage.

The happiest time of my life I think is when I was in a college. Because I finally could be like a free dove, freed from strict time schedules and could try any new foods I wanted. I got scholarship and was graduating from college early. Parents was proud and I had more good plans ahead for my life. Yes, I am a planner, I like my life organized and making no mistake.

Having a relationship was never crossed my mind at the time although I was quite a silently popular within college friends/lecturers. Always be the center of attention in the class although I was a pretty much a shy person and mostly quiet and never had an expectation to get that much of attention. Got love letters and gifts from secret admirers. For years, even after I was graduating from college, the librarians didn't forget my name and my face because I spent a lot of time in the library during my courses and I made a good impression and good attitude so I was remembered.

Then I got a good job, a job that any parents would proud of to hear their daughter got one, any parents would brag about it but I didn't let my parent. Everything looks perfect and I was perfectly happy with what I achieved until one day my Mom asked me to considering a serious relationship.

I was chased by an Aries sun male, perfectly conjunct my moon/jupiter, and his Gemini moon/venus closely trine my sun, but his Taurus mercury/mars closely square my sun. I didn't like his aggression to me, so I took time to really get to know him before thinking to get serious, but he wanted to get married soon. I didn't know he interpreted it as a rejection and our relationship soon felt like a nightmare. When he knew that I kept my virginity until marriage and I was raised with a highly spiritual religious parents, he took that opportunity to make me had no choice because he said he met his soulmate. I never had one thought that I would get through that aggression. I couldn't stop blaming myself, shameful of myself, a feeling like I had betrayed my God and my parent.

I couldn't deny my doubtful heart to marry him, so I braved myself to discuss how we couldn't continue the relationship despite I lost my virginity to him. He was angry and couldn't accept it, then physical/verbal abuse started from there. Because of I kept my life privately, I didn't want people knew the bruises on my body, so I always kept my body full covered, or if there was one on my face, I didn't show up at work and maintain to cover it up with make up. He also got caught cheating with our mutual friend/co-worker which he kept denying until I could prove everything and he couldn't hide his guilty. But everytime I said a break up, he gave me a sign that I need to be ready. It wasn't easy to get out from that relationship because I didn't know how to stand up for myself, I didn't know how to scream help, I only knew covering my face and head in silent. Until I met my younger sister and she asked me how I got an open wound on the tips of my lips and she saw some bruises on my wrist which the story ended up my family reporting him.

Those relationship leave scars to my thoughts. It does change my outlook to almost everything. I didn't know that people could be that animal before as I took my parent's marriage as a role model where never even once my Father do any harm to or yell at my Mother and they are stayed loyal to each other.

I do developing suicidal thoughts since then because like I said, I am a planner and like to stay organized, making no mistake. But all of those feels like my mistake. I never feel proud having sexual intercourse outside of marriage, or having many sexual flings, I wasn't raised to feel proud about it.

3 years after that I met my now husband, and some of it did repeating (maybe the universe wants to teach me how to stand up for myself to stop the repeating). I have learned how to stand up for myself now, I fight back when they least expect it. But I fight back with the truth. I don't fight to intentionally attack or gashlithing or making an accusations as a form of character defamation, etc, which those are what I am facing now with how my husband and his family, especially his mother does to me.

It feels like the pain keeps continuing especially when my husband keeps attacking what I have been through in the past and threatening to damaging my image by telling everyone how actually damaging my life is, like, he gives me a validation that everything is my mistake. And the fact that he stands by his mother side whose keep badmouthing me with false accusations, it does trigerring my suicidal thoughts just to kill the pain.

My other Cap sun, Virgo moon too has those thoughts when her 5 years relationship ends up with a Pisces male. They are close to marriage but it fails to happen. It makes her under pressure and stress. She comes to me to talk, and for someone who develops those thoughts too, I don't think she just talk about it like it's a usual thing to do.

And it needs to be underline that every moon signs also has a probability to talk about commit suicide.

posted May 13, 2020 02:29 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
When someone starts talking about their homicidial ideation or commit suicide, it's not just "a talk", there will always burden feelings they can't handle anymore behind it that you may not know.

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I don't think is just talk, I never said that I thought it was just talk. I really like folks with moon in aries, I was just merely pointing out that some people don't cry a lot but are just as emotional and express that pain and hurt in a different way, in this case in a more mars like way.

posted May 13, 2020 04:01 AM            

i don't really see earth as having extreme logic though, not in the sense i know you mean it anyway, laws and rules etc of nature apply on all levels but if you're talking social structure and rigidity and so on then i find those sorts of things rather nonsensical and tiresome

the seen and the unseen both exist, it isn't one or the other and the world itself doesn't force the ideas you're implying

it's more like society values and upholds certain ideas of reality and digging past those is either a choice or a natural inclination, but there's no force there

wisdom isn't just found in one place however, you're wrong there

@hearttreasure

my suicide jokes are partial jokes, but my homicide jokes are full on jokes just to make noise

someone has a problem with another person and i say "so kill them" i'm kidding 100%

it's just the quickest permanent way to remove a problem, destroy source problem gone essentially

obviously though things aren't so simplistic which is why it's always just a joke

i'm not a violent person or particularly prone to outbursts, hard to get me angry

posted May 13, 2020 05:02 AM            

I know some people find me...odd, at best. There have been many situations where I should have cried and had a mental breakdown but I just soldiered on and dusted my shoulders :-/

posted May 13, 2020 05:47 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I think (yes, think. I don’t feel that much..) I WANT TO BE the stereotypical-crying-Cancer many times! I want to cry and I want to be super emotional but my Cap Moon slaps me hard and seem to say: “listen up, mother-effer! Crying won’t solve this problem!! Thank me later.”

I know some people find me...odd, at best. There have been many situations where I should have cried and had a mental breakdown but I just soldiered on and dusted my shoulders :-/

As for the whole “I can’t live in this society it’s just too real”. Errm...no. I LIVE in the real world and adapt accordingly.

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