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DecimaLife
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posted May 24, 2020 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone, I hope you are doing well this is my first post.

What is your part of fortune position by sign and house, and do you see its effect on your life?

For example: I have PoF in scorpio at the beginning of 6th house or at the end of 5th house depends on the house system. I keep secret my hobbies from other people in my life such as astrology, psychology and I am interested in stock market. Other than that I am not creative, don't have luck with games and kids(5th house) or lucky in health and work area (6th house area) Basically cant see my PoF's effect in my life.

What do you do with you part of fortune in your life ?

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posted May 24, 2020 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is pretty lucky i guess. Its conjunct my descendant exact at 13 Aries (critical degree). I think it means i have luck with partners.

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DecimaLife
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posted May 25, 2020 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Mine is pretty lucky i guess. Its conjunct my descendant exact at 13 Aries (critical degree). I think it means i have luck with partners.

Do you have luck in areas related to aries for example courage, assertiveness, confidence in relationships (7th house) or attract aries type like partner ?

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posted May 25, 2020 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello DecimaLife and welcome!

I have it (2) cnj my Ascending and (2) cnj Antares, the fixed star sometimes said to be be ArchAngel Uriel (6th ray, angel of North?), Not fortunate in terms of monetary status but due to this placement being about appearance often, I'd say I was fortunate there. At a young age my face and throat were torn apart in an accident yet it was rather close, my eye was nearly lost. It wasn't. That was fortunate. To add to blessings touching me here, a doctor was kind enough to use me as the first child to experiment a (then) new surgical technique on. I had a few sessions during my 11+12th years, it was painful but my face healed much better because of it.

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DecimaLife
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posted May 26, 2020 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Hello DecimaLife and welcome!

I have it (2) cnj my Ascending and (2) cnj Antares, the fixed star sometimes said to be be ArchAngel Uriel (6th ray, angel of North?), Not fortunate in terms of monetary status but due to this placement being about appearance often, I'd say I was fortunate there. At a young age my face and throat were torn apart in an accident yet it was rather close, my eye was nearly lost. It wasn't. That was fortunate. To add to blessings touching me here, a doctor was kind enough to use me as the first child to experiment a (then) new surgical technique on. I had a few sessions during my 11+12th years, it was painful but my face healed much better because of it.


I am glad that now you are okey with no harm. Amazing example of this placement.
Do you know other examples about PoF in other people in your life chart's like yours ?

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posted May 26, 2020 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is 0 degrees Cancer in the 6th house.

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posted May 26, 2020 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have PoF in Capricorn 3rd house, conjunct Neptune (3°).

As a librarian I work with information, and I would say that I'm gifted when it comes to communication. The escapism of Neptune has also been of good use to me, since they way I escape is through books. Arts, music and all sorts of creative pursuits also bring me great joy in life.

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posted May 26, 2020 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have POF in Pisces 7H. (I have a Cancer Sun/Cap Moon) I can’t really explain this position other than that I exist whatever happens, and I’ll survive. Sometimes I feel as if I live parallel to universe so there’s no need for me to fight whatever is going on. It’s like floating with waves.

I also seem to get “help” when I need it and least expect it. Either from strangers or faraway friends. I thrive in relationships and always let them run their course.

I like to work with people and music makes me feel alive!

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posted May 26, 2020 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ginko147     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have PoF in second house saggitarius and sometimes I fell lucky with money and sometimes unlucky due to my stellium on second house ai got which includes uranus, neptune, moon and saturn.

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Lerena
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posted May 26, 2020 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part of Fortune in Libra in 11th house.

My Part of Fortune aspects nothing in my chart, but I have Venus in Taurus in 6th house and it makes a trine to Jupiter in Virgo in 10th house. Whatever my cause of death will be, it won't be from starvation, at least.

The ruler of my Part of Fortune, Venus, is also the ruler of my 7th house. Nowadays, most of my interactions with other people are pleasant and I've been in a romantic relationship for nearly 6 years now.

Overall, I consider myself very lucky and fortunate, but I don't always feel that way.

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DecimaLife
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posted May 27, 2020 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Travelman:
Mine is 0 degrees Cancer in the 6th house.

Do you feel lucky about health, work, pets basically 6th house area and also family (cancer) ?

Thank you everyone for your answers. I would love to hear more examples

Another example:
My close friend has a 4th house PoF in Sagittarius conjuct pluto. He lives in a huge house and can gain from stock market and he is very lucky about other people money (pluto)

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posted May 27, 2020 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have POF at 29 degrees in Cap. I think it give others (8h) the sense to trust me with their assets and I wouldn't betray them. I take it very seriously.

It would be nice if the fortune is tangible but that's 2h.

Whole sign = 7h. I don't see how it manifest in that area. When it comes to business, I am the last person someone want to work with. I am not very business oriented.

It makes a square to Moon exact.

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DecimaLife
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posted May 27, 2020 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
I have POF at 29 degrees in Cap. I think it give others (8h) the sense to trust me with their assets and I wouldn't betray them. I take it very seriously.

It would be nice if the fortune is tangible but that's 2h.

Whole sign = 7h. I don't see how it manifest in that area. When it comes to business, I am the last person someone want to work with. I am not very business oriented.

It makes a square to Moon exact.


Do you consider yourself lucky related to 8th house (research, sex, transformation, crisis etc.)

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MoonMystic
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posted May 27, 2020 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am glad that now you are okey with no harm. Amazing example of this placement.
Do you know other examples about PoF in other people in your life chart's like yours ?


Decimalife,
Thanks, me too.
I don't know any others as personal to add, but I 'll take a better look for you. Can't ask questions with many of my charts, they have passed over already.

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posted May 31, 2020 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NxNW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have POF in the 2nd-House, in Virgo, which is entirely empty otherwise. I remember something about the 2nd-House being about possessions and property (with the 4th-H being your "home" but the 2nd-H is the actual house itself?) and I suppose I've been fairly "lucky" when it comes to finding housing whenever needed.

Not a huge income and no big mansion or anything remotely high-end, but I've always been able to find a decent place to live whenever I moved. I traveled a lot in my 20s and lived in many different big cities where finding an apt is usually a nightmare but somehow by sheer chance/luck, I would happen upon a place that fit my budget rather quickly and without too much effort.

I'm super grateful for this and only learned about POF a couple of years ago b/c I think without it, I would've been homeless at one point.

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posted May 31, 2020 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Travelman:
[b]Mine is 0 degrees Cancer in the 6th house.


Do you feel lucky about health, work, pets basically 6th house area and also family (cancer) ?

Thank you everyone for your answers. I would love to hear more examples

Another example:
My close friend has a 4th house PoF in Sagittarius conjuct pluto. He lives in a huge house and can gain from stock market and he is very lucky about other people money (pluto)

[/B][/QUOTE]

Do you feel lucky about health

------Sadly, no. I had cancer and got chemo from November 2010 until May 2011 and around June 2011 got Lyme Disease. Otherwise, I don't get sick too often. But still, cancer.

Work

------Yes and no. I have found lots of jobs in other countries and I am currently living in my 6th country to live in. I would like to earn more money, though. So in that case, no.

Pets
------Sadly when I was young, about 11, some jerk left the gate open in my yard and my dog left and got hit by a car while I was in school. That dog was too young. A few years later my cat went out one day and never came back, maybe (likely) killed by a Fisher cat. Last year a huge dog killed my cat. So sadly, no.

Family
-Can be tough. Nothing too bad, but I really butt heads with my sister who is two years younger. My other siblings are fine my mom is nice but unresponsive about some things I wish she would be more invested in.

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posted May 31, 2020 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My POF not lucky at all.
My POF near 27° in Gemini.
My 2nd House Cusp, POF, Venus and Moon all Conjunct each other within 2° of Orb. Also there are NN and Mercury in 2nd House too.

I'm economically poor, never had a good job. Family environment very bad. I no house of my own. Living in parent's house. Tried to live in rented house to live separately so that I could get mental peace and less humiliation. Unfortunately my income is so low that I can't afford a cheap rented house. Not married ye.

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posted May 31, 2020 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sagittarus third house ?

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posted June 01, 2020 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be aware that the Lot of Fortune is by large misunderstood in terms of how it 'should' be studied.

The following is a quote from the user "Bob" in an old thread on the Astrologyweekly forum (link below) and it may help you understand the complexities involved in understanding and utilizing ones LoF.

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Unfortunately most of the information about the LoF on the internet is misunderstood, that is according to the reasons for its original use. It most certainly is not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that most people think it is, neither is it specifically lucky or fortunate. In my earlier posts I have made other relevant remarks about it you may want to check. I will give a brief account of what it represents and how it works, but first a note.

Note:

The Lot of Fortune is measured from the Sun to the Moon in a diurnal chart, and the Moon to the Sun in a nocturnal chart. The Fortuna house system should be used with ‘whole sign’ houses.

To set up a Fortuna chart first one has to find the LoF ascendant, this is the degree of what people commonly refer to as ‘the part of fortune’. You say your LoF is 9 SAG 47 and you are correct in saying that this is your Fortuna ascendant or first house cusp. The LoF by sign indicates a special interest to us personally, and as yours is in Sagittarius it indicates that broadening your horizons will be of special interest to you. You may do this though drink, drugs, travel to places of splendor, higher education that may concern philosophy, culture, language, law or religion (many other things too) etc.

I am assuming your LoF was arrived at by the diurnal/nocturnal method as mentioned above. If not, this information will be applicable to a completely different lot.

If your LoF is in the 7th house natal house you interests would like be attained in social situations such as colleges, universities. It might also give more weight to the social sciences as a particular interest to you personally. If your LoF has any connection to your love life you will most likely find a partner and/or very good friends that could help you achieve the things you are after at study centers or other social advancement institutions. It would certainly give a liking for social gatherings in general.

To construct a Fortuna chart what you need is your natal chart with all the major planets entered, but no house cusps. With your 9 SAG 47 Fortuna ascendant you can begin to mark off equal houses at 9 SAG 47 in each sign. For example, your second house would be 9 CAP 47, your third house would be 9 AQU 47 and so on around the wheel.

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In doing the above we now come to a slight debate area; some astrologers say the house cusps are defined as the borders of the houses, and others (myself included) believe the cusps to be pointers to the sign of that particular house.

As your LoF is in Sagittarius, any planet in Sagittarius is in your first Fortuna house (which is an angular house). Any planet in Capricorn would be in your second Fortuna house (succeedent). Any planet in Aquarius would be in your third Fortuna house (cadent), and so on around the twelve houses. After completing this you need to look at what planets are angular for they are the strongest planets in the Fortuna system, succeedent planets are fairly good but cadent planets are weak in respect to general fortune. The reason for my saying that a square to Jupiter is far better than a trine to Mars is as follows: The Fortuna chart strength lies in its angles, if the malefics are angular then ones fortunes are tied up with ones disappointments and good fortune in general will require much work. If on the other hand the benefics are angular, ones opportunities come more frequently, and are much more noticeable. Therefore, if Mars makes a trine to the LoF he must be in a succeedent house, and not as strong as an angular Jupiter. Strictly speaking aspects per se are/were not used in delineating ones LoF, the most important factors are angular, succeedent or cadency.

I should mention that malefic planets can be made totally benefic by their overall natal condition, in much the same way benefics can be made malefic by their natal conditions too.

Once you have set up your Fortuna chart, the next step is to see where it fits into your natal chart. What you are looking for here is to see how active it is and what signs are being signified by your LoF. To make it easy, all you really need to do is use your LoF ascendant. Again, I would use ‘whole sign houses’ for the natal chart but feel free to use whatever system you choose. Is your LoF in your first house, second house, third house and so on? If your LoF is in an angular house it will have quite a high significance in your life. Yoi, your LoF is in the 7th which is an angular sign and therefore there will be a lot of significance between its condition and your life when its ruler is a chronocrator of the general times. In your chart it is in a mutable sign so it is generally more active in directions and time lord transits when any of the planets are moving through the mutable signs.

Now we have a basic sketch of the strength of the LoF and the signs where fortune will be active in your chart. It is now time to see how these times can be mapped out according to your life. Your LoF is in Jupiter’s sign, and Jupiter has a cycle of twelve years. This makes Jupiter the LoF significator for the first twelve years of your life. If you check back into your chart you should see between the ages of 1-12 where Jupiter’s ingress/direction/transit/station through the cadent signs has links to events in your life during his time lord period. After twelve years Jupiter hands over the reigns to the ruler of the next zodiac sign, this in your case is Capricorn.

Here is another area where there is some controversy; Saturn’s great period is 57 years of which 27 years are given to Capricorn and 30 years to Aquarius. Some astrologers would suggest that the years should be reversed, or Capricorn and Aquarius should receive the same time period by dividing the major period in two giving 28.5 years to each. I personally favour the former giving 27 years to Capricorn and 30 to Aquarius.

From the age of twelve Saturn has taken over as chronocrator for the distribution of fortune for 57 years although in its general periods you have a Capricorn Saturn first and an Aquarius Saturn after. The difference between these two Saturn periods are; one is nocturnal and the other diurnal and this relates specifically to the condition and sect of Saturn in your personal chart.

Aspects:
When it comes to aspects to the LoF, there is far more to them than the geometric angles. To a certain extent the Fortuna chart can be read just like a natal chart as long as the sect, phase, topical house and general condition of the aspecting planet are taken into account. A Jupiter in trine to the LoF ascendant could be significating a lottery win or a very fortunate life, but it could also be suggesting a disposition to cancer. One has to be very careful about the condition of the aspecting planet because ones fortune can be good or bad, this is something people often forget when delineating the LoF. There is no fatalism here, just openness to the fact that fortune is a double edged sword.

You say your LoF ascendant is conjunct your Sun, and in a general sense the Sun represents fame, honour and rank as well as children and a family. The Sun sets his goals then goes for them, he wants recognition and to be seen in places where high society might notice him and give him a helping hand. He sets his own rules which make him suitable for leadership. These things are for the most part stated by the house and sign the LoF ascendant occupied at birth in the natal chart. My aim here is to demonstrate a method in assessing the LoF as one cannot make deductions without taking into account his entire condition within your chart. Hopefully this will give some pointers on how to examine the LoF.

One final note is if the LoF ascendant falls in Taurus, Libra, Sagittarius or Pisces it is ruled by a benefic planet, and because of this a certain amount of luck, help or opportunities will come their way. Another thing that some of you may want to investigate is the tenth house from the LoF ascendant, this is because it represents the height of ones fortune in the same way the tenth natal house reflects our reputation based upon the actions we have taken.

Finally, there are sub-lords of the Fortuna system which are divisions of the times allotted to the general time lords, these show the unfoldment of what is going on during the general time lord periods. It cannot be explained very easily without going into a lot of detail and a great deal more time. If this article has wet your appetite for further investigation into these detailed times I would suggest visiting projecthidsight.com.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5210.html


Here is another article by Robert Hand that deals with the topic: http://www.astro.com/info/in_fortune_e.htm


My LoF is in 29th degree of Libra 5th house, so Libra is my Fortuna 1st house. I haven't gone deeper in wrapping my head around tis than than the following top-of-mind thinking, but will probably make some more effort at a later point.

Being in Libra my Fortuna House is ruled by Venus.
My Venus is in my Pisces 10th house.
I (hope to) work as an artist for a living, currently finishing up my MA in the area.
My Venus is square Saturn-Mars Sag conjunction opposing my Gem Ascendant, so it has taken about 30 years to 'ripen' into my role - mainly due to issues of my Pisces Merc being uncomfortable in Higher Education (Sag), and generally due to having to learn-through-hardship to grind and polish my rough edges.
My 10th Fortuna house is in Cancer, which houses my Moon and is my natal 2nd house.

All in all it seems rather benefic - I assume I will find out in time how the 'fortune' part play out. Up until now I am fortunate to have found my 5th 'expression' and consciously directing it through my 10th.

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posted June 01, 2020 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Somna7H:
My POF not lucky at all.
My POF near 27° in Gemini.
My 2nd House Cusp, POF, Venus and Moon all Conjunct each other within 2° of Orb. Also there are NN and Mercury in 2nd House too.

I'm economically poor, never had a good job. Family environment very bad. I no house of my own. Living in parent's house. Tried to live in rented house to live separately so that I could get mental peace and less humiliation. Unfortunately my income is so low that I can't afford a cheap rented house. Not married ye.


Thats interesting because some refers the part of fortune can be also part of misfortune if not used properly. Do you spend too much spend your time on 8th house sagittarius (south node can be really pulling) activities instead of working on 2nd house issues or even you try to work with 2nd house (gemini) activities you still have restrictions ?

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posted June 01, 2020 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Somna7H:
My POF not lucky at all.
My POF near 27° in Gemini.
My 2nd House Cusp, POF, Venus and Moon all Conjunct each other within 2° of Orb. Also there are NN and Mercury in 2nd House too.

I'm economically poor, never had a good job. Family environment very bad. I no house of my own. Living in parent's house. Tried to live in rented house to live separately so that I could get mental peace and less humiliation. Unfortunately my income is so low that I can't afford a cheap rented house. Not married ye.


Thats interesting because some refers the part of fortune can be also part of misfortune if not used properly. Do you spend too much spend your time on 8th house sagittarius (south node can be really pulling) activities instead of working on 2nd house issues or even you try to work with 2nd house (gemini) activities you still have restrictions ?

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posted June 01, 2020 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
Thats interesting because some refers the part of fortune can be also part of misfortune if not used properly. Do you spend too much spend your time on 8th house sagittarius (south node can be really pulling) activities instead of working on 2nd house issues or even you try to work with 2nd house (gemini) activities you still have restrictions ?

Except Astrology I have nothing related to 8th House in my life.
I have no Inheritance, I never got gifts from others. I'm near 40 but never had Sex in my life. I'm no Spiritual person either. Not marriage so no question about property from partner. I'm poor so nothing related to Tax. Death ? No it's never made an impact on my life yet. I can't remember anything related to 8th house which I'm into.

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posted June 02, 2020 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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