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Topic: Is Venus conjunct Pluto more stable than Venus in Scorpio? If yes, how so? If no, why
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Leo-Cancer98
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posted May 30, 2020 10:18 AM
  
I’m asking out of curiosity because I was very surprised to hear, real-life personal experiences’, of those who have been cheating on by men with Venus in Scorpio. ------------------
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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 30, 2020 12:15 PM
There are too many variables for this hypothetical question to be answered in any real terms. How tight is the Venus conjunction with Pluto? What other aspects do one or both make to other planets? This is what is needed to interpret such factors rather than extracting direct comparisons. ------------------
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antiphon
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posted May 30, 2020 01:36 PM
I have Venus in Scorpio and have never cheated on anyone. I’ve been cheated on, but I don't judge everyone who has something in common with her. The idea of a single aspect making someone a cheater doesn’t seem right to me.I personally believe that Venus in Scorpio is more stable than for example, Venus in Libra conjunct Pluto. In the latter case, you’ll get the Libra traits combined with the intensity and obsession of Pluto. It’s more complex, conflicted and dynamic, and harder to express. IP: Logged |
ParallelToucan
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posted May 30, 2020 01:56 PM
I had a similar question in the past except it involved Mercury Conjunct Pluto, Mercury in Scorpio, and Mercury in the 8th.The only conjunctions in my chart are Uranus Conjunct Neptune, which I think is basically a given for people born within my era and I'm also a Moon Conjunct Mars. I would try to explain it using my Moon Conjunct Mars if only I wasn't a Moon and Mars in Aries. Since Aries rules Mars it's hard for me to decipher between which is more this, more that, etc... since I've heard that Moon Conjunct Mars kind of acts like a Moon in Aries anyways... so it's like I have "both" if that makes sense. It's hard to decipher. In this case of Venus Conjunct Pluto, it's a conjunction, so one thing that I do know is that conjunctions are like direct ports or raw energy/power/influence/ability/etc.. (whatever you want to call it) and so it just means that it's going to give Venus in Scorpio like qualities. They're going to be extremely possessive and intense in love. They're also going to be just very intense in general and have intense eyes. Look at Jessica Simpson's eyes as an example. I agree with the poster above that Venus in Scorpio would be more stable though as far as what you "described." Not only that but I don't think it's always black and white and/or so cut and dry either. Which is why Kannon directs to look at a whole chart. They could be more "stable" in other areas? Perhaps? Depending on what those areas are though is left up to interpretation or perception. I know what you mean though, I'm not trying to shoot you down either. I think you're talking about tendencies, in which I would agree with you on that one. I do think underlying, unconscious tendencies do play a major role in astrology and with questions like these. I guess my question to you is what is your definition of "stable?" What type of "stability" are you referring to? Let me give you an example, a Venus Conjunct Pluto could define stability as an inherent, deep, intense, and physical/spiritual/emotional/psychological binding with another individual in a life commitment type of way where as others may just see it as the same way except not really interested in a life partner if that makes sense? There are so many variables. I've also never really dated a Venus in Scorpio either so I can't really speak on their behalf, so it's hard for me to decipher also. I came here just to denote different variables. I would say that they "should" be very stable in the fact that they're probably very possessive in love. I know this I think because I'm a Venus in Taurus. So, I understand that type of energy. It's not black and white though. It's more of a grey area. IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly
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posted May 31, 2020 05:40 PM
I would say it depends on the sign of the venus. It will give it a scorpio type feel in the sense that it intensifies that sign that the planet is in.
I have pluto conjunct my moon in libra where my soon to be ex-husband , had his moon in scorpio.
I would say I had more sense than he did when it came to things where he would say a bunch of BS. I could hide things lower than him and in some ways I could always tell more things going on with him looking back that I ignored due to my libra moon wanting to be rational on things or easy going about it. My libra moon conjunct pluto just gives me more insight into relationship dynamics than most, also a little more explosive when things are off balance or that could be aries in my 7th?
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ParallelToucan
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posted June 01, 2020 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
I would say it depends on the sign of the venus. It will give it a scorpio type feel in the sense that it intensifies that sign that the planet is in.
I have pluto conjunct my moon in libra where my soon to be ex-husband , had his moon in scorpio.
I would say I had more sense than he did when it came to things where he would say a bunch of BS. I could hide things lower than him and in some ways I could always tell more things going on with him looking back that I ignored due to my libra moon wanting to be rational on things or easy going about it. My libra moon conjunct pluto just gives me more insight into relationship dynamics than most, also a little more explosive when things are off balance or that could be aries in my 7th?
Just my intake on things
Good explanation. Venus Conjunct Pluto does make an individual very intense in general, but ESPECIALLY when it comes to anything Venus related, like love for example. It's as if these people want to "own" your soul almost. Almost like it's up for grabs and no questions asked. That's what I see when I look into Jessica Simpson's eyes at least. I'm a Venus Opposite Pluto. My current girlfriend is a Venus Sextile Pluto and even she is very intense. There's just something about these people, and I'm mostly Scorpio myself, so it can be rather overwhelming for some people I would imagine. There's still something that scares the **** out of me about Jessica Simpson's eyes though. I can't help but to notice that. IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted June 01, 2020 11:17 AM
Venus connection with Pluto wouldn’t make it more prone to cheating. At least, not in Uranus way. it would make it more complex and intense. Pluto conjunction would make you attracted to darkness. It could bring emotional conflicts what might end up in some kind of instability.Scorpio Venus can live its “demons” through relationships. What can take it on the slippery slope. Being possessive - might co-exist with cheating in some cases. Scorpio play games, and some of them have different rules for themselves and for the others. They can have twisted mindset.
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ParallelToucan
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posted June 01, 2020 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Venus connection with Pluto wouldn’t make it more prone to cheating. At least, not in Uranus way. it would make it more complex and intense. Pluto conjunction would make you attracted to darkness. It could bring emotional conflicts what might end up in some kind of instability.Scorpio Venus can leave its “demons” through relationships. What can take it on the slippery slope. Being possessive - might co-exist with cheating in some cases. Scorpio play games, and some of them have deferent rules for themselves and for the others. They can have twisted mindset.
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Librapurr
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posted June 01, 2020 02:58 PM
ParallelToucan, I do. If you imply my grammar mistakes and style, it comes more from my transits making me to be in 3 places in one time.IP: Logged |
ParallelToucan
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posted June 01, 2020 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
ParallelToucan, I do. If you imply my grammar mistakes and style, it comes more from my transits making me to be in 3 places in one time.
I had a hunch. What do you mean "be in 3 places in one time." ? I'm rather confused. Do you care to explain? IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted June 01, 2020 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by ParallelToucan:
I had a hunch. What do you mean "be in 3 places in one time." ? I'm rather confused. Do you care to explain?
Just multitasking , nothing supernatural.IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted June 02, 2020 04:44 AM
my ex had both in her chart an exact conjunction with pluto and scorpio, nightmare rollercoaster relationshipit was a constant state of testing and punishing and after she broke up with me she stalked me and i had to shut down all social media and go no contact what someone said about the twisted mindset is 100% true (she also hadca scorpio mercury) been with 2 people with scorpio mars too and neither of those was a good time either i'm pretty done with scorpio placements tbh IP: Logged |
ParallelToucan
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posted June 02, 2020 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ParallelToucan:
[b] I had a hunch. What do you mean "be in 3 places in one time." ? I'm rather confused. Do you care to explain?
Just multitasking , nothing supernatural.[/B][/QUOTE]Oh ok  just my ignorance on "transits." Never looked up exactly what that is so I didn't know what you were referring to. Yeah, I thought I was talking to nothing less than an alien. IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted June 03, 2020 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by ParallelToucan:
Oh ok just my ignorance on "transits." Never looked up exactly what that is so I didn't know what you were referring to. Yeah, I thought I was talking to nothing less than an alien.
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hearttreasure
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posted June 03, 2020 08:46 PM
Well, a real life experience:- Libra venus conjunct Pluto (Scorpio sun and mercury), he was my lecturer and married, I remember the first time we met in the class he still had his ring, the second time, the ring had gone. Then after years we built connection as a lecturer and a student which continued to be friend after I graduated, he pursued slowly but obvious. He was still married and had two sons at that time. He never talked about his marriage or sons and I never asked because I was afraid it would gone too far because he stalked me for years. I used a slowly disappear method while avoiding the meeting in "certain places" that could trigger his feelings. We have Moon conjunct Moon, so it's easy to feel the most comfortable in each other presence. I only have a respect for him because through our conversation he helps me a lot as I usually put too much pressure on myself. We have a more than 10 years age gap but our conversation really feels like friends with no age gap. - Scorpio Venus conjunct Pluto (as well as Moon and mercury conjunct Pluto). I'm not really sure how was the dynamic of my husband's relationship with her. But, he told me that I and she are totally a two opposite. One time I had a chance to talk to her through phone because my husband still denied their relationship was on again. He told me that she was cheating in the past that he couldn't forget it but didn't know how to break their relationship because she kept coming back saying sorry. I didn't trust him right away, so I asked her if she really was cheating before, and she said, YES, but she felt sorry and claimed that they never broke up but only had a normal fight in a relationship. I remember at that time my reaction was like, "What? A normal fight? No, don't try to trick me with your saying, if it is normal, why he is here having a relationship with me?? You're both cheaters, I don't want to deal with two of you." Then I gave the phone to him asking him to ask her what was exactly their relationship status, if she said they were not breaking up, he should stayed away from me. But he turned the phone off and didn't let me to dial it anymore and he said, "don't call her anymore, I and her are really breaking up". Well, we broke up anyway at that time, because I knew both liars. Since she knew that there was me, after some years I had found she stalked my social media and copied everything, she started having a similar activities with me, went to the same places I tagged, changed her styles similar to mine, etc, which freaked me out, that's the reason I shutdown all of my social media until now, I also completely change church, where I usually hang out and also that's one of many reason I want to cut the cord with my husband. I like my privacy keeps private but he seems enjoyed the attention or he just likes to play with the fire because he knows she stalks him. We argue for sometimes about it because he could put dangerous situation for me and my daughter because it's not a normal thing anymore and it's not an healthy obsession anymore. Which one is more stable? I don't know. Both are intense and intense means not really stable imo. I think they are more prone with revenge, I mean, when they get hurt by the thing they think their partner is cheating, they can also cheat to get a fairness of it or just a power play games. I have my venus trine Pluto, I feel hard aspect to Pluto is more intense and, well, a double dose in their own darkness. IP: Logged |
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