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Topic: Does anyone relate to signs from their Vedic chart, that are inaccurate in Western?
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Leo-Cancer98
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posted June 08, 2020 08:14 AM
  
I know a guy with Western Venus&Mars in Aries, but behaves as Venus in Pisces with me. So thought I’d ask  IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted June 08, 2020 09:50 AM
my mars is definitely more fitting in sag than capIP: Logged |
teasel
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posted June 08, 2020 10:50 AM
I’ve seen two slightly different Vedic charts for myself. One with a Pisces sun, and one with 0*aries. When we were telling people here, how we thought they come across, I remember getting mainly Pisces and Scorpio (my mars and ascendant), but I was quieter then. Moon/Venus would be in Taurus. I don’t relate to the assumptions about Venus in Gemini, but I think gem is more fitting for me. I haven’t looked at Taurus venue or mars descriptions for a long time. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted June 08, 2020 12:58 PM
Leo-Cancer98, Perhaps you are causing that shift in him.IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98
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posted June 08, 2020 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Leo-Cancer98, Perhaps you are causing that shift in him.
Could it be because he’s a Pisces Sun & Mercury? IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted June 08, 2020 02:47 PM
No, not at all.My Asc in tropical zodiac terms is 17° Virgo. That would be 23° Leo in Vedic. I bear no resemblance whatsoever to a fire sign personality, certainly not Leo. I am 100% classic Virgo rising: analytical, picky, introverted, mental in orientation, health oriented, desiring to help and serve others, etc.. My Moon in tropical zodiac is 11CAP43. That would be 18° in Vedic. I bear no resemblance whatsoever to a person with Moon in a fire sign, certainly not expansive Sagittarius. I'm classic Moon-in-Capricorn: cautious, detached, strong boundaries, desiring of order and correctness, etc. My Sun in tropical zodiac is 6° Taurus. That would be 12° Aries in Vedic. There is nothing Aries about me whatsoever. I'm a classic, slow moving, comfort loving, seemingly lazy, don't-push-me Taurus. There are useful things in the nirayana zodiac, but summarizing personality and overall energies is not one of them. ------------------
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Hikaru29
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posted June 09, 2020 05:50 AM
I only read up on my Vedic Moon since it's the most important planet. I've Vedic Moon in Scorpio and Tropical Moon in Sagittarius. I can resonate with all the Scorpio jealousy, possessiveness, secrecy, anger, grudge as well as Sag Moon's humour, easy-going ways and need for freedom. I've Vedic Venus in Taurus and with my Scorpio Moon these two are faithful signs, unlike my Tropical Gemini Venus/Sag Moon which are consider flirts. I'm very loyal and faithful in relationships but I'm also flirty, chatty, sociable like a Gemini. So I do resonate with both charts. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted June 09, 2020 10:38 AM
I love the way Vedic astrology interpret things but I don't agree with the sidereal method, in Vedic I have Gemini Moon and Pisces Sun... In Western I have Aries Sun and Cancer Moon I can see that in my emotions they are intense and passionate. In the sidereal signs, I don't see that fits me.IP: Logged |
Selenite
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posted June 09, 2020 12:54 PM
It trips me out from time to time, because I strongly relate to my Vedic Scorpio Sun... And then I go through all the changes trying to see myself differently, and I can actually relate to the changes in placement to some extent.But Vedic puts me at a Cancer rising when I'm at Leo Tropical ?!
Leo Rising descriptions have me down to a T. And Vedic has me at Libra Venus ?! I've almost never related to anything more than my Scorpio Venus... And me not being a Sag Sun would almost seem ridiculous.
But I've looked into it, because the concept makes more sense to me.
Just makes me wonder if the way signs are perceived in Vedic are completely different than in Tropical, like a Libra Venus Vedic would have the same characteristics as a Scorpio Venus tropical. Vedic doesn't seem to be as concerned with sign placement equating to personality, it's more about predicting your life circumstances. There is some personality involved but there are so many other factors in Vedic that sign placement almost seems irrelevant. I wish I could find some straight up information about it, every site I've tried to gain understanding from has been vague and confusing. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98
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posted June 09, 2020 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
But Vedic puts me at a Cancer rising when I'm at Leo Tropical ?!
Leo Rising descriptions have me down to a T.
Do you relate to 75% of Leo Rising depictions and YouTube videos? Is your Ascendant Degree in the 1st Decan, the one ruled by the Sun? IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted June 09, 2020 04:18 PM
Try comparing Vedic chart with your Western Draconic chart, see which makes more sense.IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98
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posted June 09, 2020 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Try Comparing Vedic chart with your Western Draconic chart, see which makes more sense.
What’s a Draconic chart? IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted June 09, 2020 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
What’s a Draconic chart?
Draconic Astrology: Getting in Touch with Our Deeper Self
https://www.astrologicalassociation.com/students/draconic_astrology.php You can have your Draconic chart at astro.com extended chart under chart type selection. IP: Logged |
Selenite
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posted June 09, 2020 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Do you relate to 75% of Leo Rising depictions and YouTube videos? Is your Ascendant Degree in the 1st Decan, the one ruled by the Sun?
I relate to 100% of them  I'm in the 2nd Decan, I believe that's the Jupiter-ruled one... I guess there's a particular resonance with Leo-Sag-Sun-Jupiter since my Sag Sun is in the 5th as well
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Dumuzi
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posted June 09, 2020 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Try comparing Vedic chart with your Western Draconic chart, see which makes more sense.
my vedic chart is my draconic chart almost exactly, off by about 2 degrees but everything is exactly the same that being said i find my vedic chart as a whole relatable @selenite things are different in vedic with signs particularly if you break them down further into nakshatras vedic works, western works just like many forms of divination will give you the same outcome regardless give me tarot, autowriting, a pendulum, iching, runes, your transits, your dashas whatever i'll divine the same future for you because this sort of thing isn't all that limiting people who swear by one system over another often don't fully grasp them both if they did they'd see you can get the same person regardless IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted June 10, 2020 09:54 AM
In sidereal I am Sag Sun, Gemini Moon & Pisces rising. Mercury in Sag and Mars in Virgo. A large collection of mutable energy.I agree with sidereal tbh💁🏿♂️ And that may be because the positions reflect my natal by House positions. When I look at my family.The Moon position make sense too.
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anonymidarkness
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posted June 10, 2020 10:28 AM
I sure as helll relate to my 5th house stellium in Vedic, but all that air idk(basically my chart goes from 6 planets in water to 5 in air plus an airy ascendant in libra), I sure as hell wouldn't mind having that exalted Mars tho  .IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted June 11, 2020 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Just makes me wonder if the way signs are perceived in Vedic are completely different than in Tropical, like a Libra Venus Vedic would have the same characteristics as a Scorpio Venus tropical. Vedic doesn't seem to be as concerned with sign placement equating to personality, it's more about predicting your life circumstances. There is some personality involved but there are so many other factors in Vedic that sign placement almost seems irrelevant.I wish I could find some straight up information about it, every site I've tried to gain understanding from has been vague and confusing.
Try reading up based on your Nakshatras. I find it pretty accurate for me. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted June 12, 2020 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I sure as helll relate to my 5th house stellium in Vedic, but all that air idk(basically my chart goes from 6 planets in water to 5 in air plus an airy ascendant in libra), I sure as hell wouldn't mind having that exalted Mars tho .
my mars is exalted in western, overrated really, seems to amount to **** IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted June 12, 2020 06:34 AM
Could be that Neptune conjunction, the ones I have known have been very wild tho, they had it conjunct both Uranus and Neptune, Steph Curry too has a Mars conjunct Neptune it seems and he does not quite play the game like a typical Capricorn Mars, things seem to go rather smooth or with more skills lets say, you must be good at music tho ayeYou're still here alive tho, after all that atm part, could be the Mars perhaps, or could be Sag Mars afterall IP: Logged |
jennifercheck
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posted June 12, 2020 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
No, not at all.My Asc in tropical zodiac terms is 17° Virgo. That would be 23° Leo in Vedic. I bear no resemblance whatsoever to a fire sign personality, certainly not Leo. I am 100% classic Virgo rising: analytical, picky, introverted, mental in orientation, health oriented, desiring to help and serve others, etc.. My Moon in tropical zodiac is 11CAP43. That would be 18° in Vedic. I bear no resemblance whatsoever to a person with Moon in a fire sign, certainly not expansive Sagittarius. I'm classic Moon-in-Capricorn: cautious, detached, strong boundaries, desiring of order and correctness, etc. My Sun in tropical zodiac is 6° Taurus. That would be 12° Aries in Vedic. There is nothing Aries about me whatsoever. I'm a classic, slow moving, comfort loving, seemingly lazy, don't-push-me Taurus. There are useful things in the nirayana zodiac, but summarizing personality and overall energies is not one of them.
I agree with you. I don't relate to my Vedic chart personality-wise at all. But which things exactly in the nirayana zodiac are useful (at least in your opinion)?
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Plut0nian2
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posted June 12, 2020 03:59 PM
Not at all, especially some of them are so off no matter the interpretation (Vedic/Western). Have you checked the house and aspects of that person's Venus and Mars? He may have those two planets in aspect to Neptune or in 12th H if he is generally like that or it could be a synastry thing involving Neptune aspects/12th H placements etc.
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teasel
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posted June 12, 2020 04:16 PM
This is my Western natal chart: http://i.imgur.com/25soYQx.png This is Fagan/Bradley Vedic, which was the default sidereal: http://i.imgur.com/6tCV8gi.png This is Hindu/Lahiri, which ULT1 asked us to use, a couple of months ago, in a thread of his: http://i.imgur.com/mJxVibc.png I think that I relate more to my Western chart, but I love Taurus moons (they're also my 7th house in Placidus). I was going to say that I would think it would have been easier to get along with a Taurus I cut ties with again, last weekend, if I had a Taurus Moon conjunct Venus, but his Vedic chart would also be different, so it wouldn't work that way. I relate more to Gemini Moon/Venus, just not the nasty assumptions made about them at times. I need to talk things through, I analyze things to death, unless I'm not in the mood to do so. My Mars is definitely in Pisces, not Aquarius. IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted June 12, 2020 06:46 PM
It mostly switches things around a little for me, except for Mars. If I had fire Mars sq. Uranus like Vedic claims, I would burn everything to the ground long time ago 😊IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98
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posted June 30, 2020 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my mars is definitely more fitting in sag than cap
Which degree are they at in both Western & Vedic? IP: Logged |
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