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missblyss
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posted June 11, 2020 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my honest belief is that the situation was an all-around tragedy but not racially motivated.

I believe that the issue here is with police continuously using excessive force.. I have even seen my 90 lb white friend get tackled by a male cop and her face bashed into the cop car when we were just 18! cops have always been notorious for abusing their power... just now there are phones so they can't get away with it!

that being said, my feeling is that if race played into this at all, it was only bc the officer believed bc George Floyd was black that he was stronger and that made him feel he had to use excessive force to be able to restrain him. I also believe that because there was such a scene that he was focusing more on the cameras and commotion and not realizing that Floyd was actually dying.

I will also add, that I know Floyd was screaming "I can't breathe", but if you watch live PD or any show you will know that people say stuff like this ALL THE TIME when they are getting arrested so I think cops become sort of numb to it. People will say anything to get released get away and it's very common for people to be saying "I AM DYING" and I think cops learn to just think they are faking.

I just honestly don't believe that he would, simply because of hatred for black people, intentionally kill this man WHILE BEING FILMED!!! He was being filmed, don't you think he would have some self awareness to know if he was murdering someone he would be SCREWED? I think he probably didn't realize what was happening until it was too late

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Cappyshroom23
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posted June 11, 2020 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappyshroom23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Chiron is being squared by the transiting stellium of outer planets in Capricorn: Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto. Pluto being the closest by only one degree retrograde. Pluto is associated with death and transformation...Jupiter a few degrees away and Saturn is further away but retrograding back to a tighter square to his Chiron in the next few months. Outer planets are generational and makes sense in his case that an entire generation is squaring his wounded planet.

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Cappyshroom23
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posted June 11, 2020 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappyshroom23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Chiron is being squared by the transiting stellium of outer planets in Capricorn: Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto. Pluto being the closest by only one degree retrograde. Pluto is associated with death and transformation...Jupiter a few degrees away and Saturn is further away but retrograding back to a tighter square to his Chiron in the next few months. Outer planets are generational and makes sense in his case that an entire generation is squaring his wounded planet.

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posted June 12, 2020 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by missblyss:
I just honestly don't believe that he would, simply because of hatred for black people, intentionally kill this man WHILE BEING FILMED!!! He was being filmed, don't you think he would have some self awareness to know if he was murdering someone he would be SCREWED? I think he probably didn't realize what was happening until it was too late

Good point. That’s why I pointed at Neptune. Why he would need to commit hate crime in front of everybody when they could just beat this man up later. Nonsense.

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posted June 12, 2020 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by missblyss:
I just honestly don't believe that he would, simply because of hatred for black people, intentionally kill this man WHILE BEING FILMED!!! He was being filmed, don't you think he would have some self awareness to know if he was murdering someone he would be SCREWED? I think he probably didn't realize what was happening until it was too late

It varies precint to precint but some have a very toxic environment, which can be exacerbated by zealous police unions (along with the blue wall of silence ) and even police training that is more designed to make one a psychopath than a keeper of the peace. If he was in such a precint, immersed within it, then he simply may not have cared or even considered what others would think. Lots of people mistake their little bubbles of fringe beliefs as mainstream when they're not (and it's not unknown for cops to post racist and other obnoxious pix on their PD Facebook page, apparently clueless to how it would come off, or perhaps all too aware but feeling too powerful as they do).

There's also the real possibility that if this had not exploded into mass protests and riots that little to nothing would've been done, maybe even a pat on the back instead of prosecution.

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posted June 13, 2020 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazabel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the only reason it exploded, or made to explode publicly now, is because it is ...voting time!
Immediately after the fiasco happened and exploded, a message appeared by the dems- vote! Along with their long repertoire of prime acts. And so did the masses - went out and voted.

Illuminating: http://twitter.com/hodgetwins/status/1271233774852833281?s=20

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astri
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posted June 13, 2020 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People have been rioting and protesting against racism in several countries now. I was thinking if the asteroid Cruithne would be prominent in the chart right now.

I read on this forum that Astrologically, Cruithne indicates
sense of connectedness to ethnic, regional or racial roots
or to the land or earth;
ethnic or racial pride;
environmentalism;
clinging to core identity;
stigma..

And Indeed, Cruithne is now conjunct Eris (which means war, strife and discord) in Aries no less(!). This conjunction is squaring the Pluto/Jupiter conjunction. So it shouldn't be a surprise things are getting so out of hand..

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posted June 14, 2020 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jazabel:
the only reason it exploded, or made to explode publicly now, is because it is ...voting time!
Immediately after the fiasco happened and exploded, a message appeared by the dems- vote! Along with their long repertoire of prime acts. And so did the masses - went out and voted.

Illuminating: http://twitter.com/hodgetwins/status/1271233774852833281?s=20


I think it's an oversimplification.

This particular incident of police brutality is different in that it involves not just 1 officer seen for 7 minutes kneeling on a man's neck (which is problematic in itself, as you don't need to have an anatomy/biology degree to know that this could be fatal), but all the others officers who stood around watching him doing that, and not one of them stopped it. Where they afraid of Chauvin? Where they also wholly ignorant of human anatomy?

The incident highlighted an unfortunate mentality among the police force that disregards a certain type of human life.

Add to that:
1) the restlessness created by months of forced lockdown with most people itching to get the hell out under any pretext -see how quickly concerns about COVID fell by the wayside, lol-
2) the sheer mass of millions of currently unemployed or underemployed idle people and students, with lots of free time on their hands
3) no venue where people can go and blow off steam. All those outlets are closed: sports arenas, gyms, beaches bars, youth centers, clubs, neighborhood ball courts, park BBQ, fairs, festivals, etc...

This created a perfect storm and it was part of the events shaping the nasty lunar eclipse that fell smack on the US ascendant/axis.

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Belage
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posted June 14, 2020 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few people mentioned the presence of Neptune.

With a Pisces stellium, if Chauvin is not expressing it in terms of compassion, psychic abilities, or spiritual pursuit, he will express it in its lower form, so I suspect Chauvin might have a substance abuse problem. He could have been high at the time of the incident.

But globally, this particular entrance of Mars in Pisces and the eventual conjunction of Mars with transit Neptune (happening as we speak) ushered in the Defund the Police movement. This is a definite Mars conjunct Neptune in Pisces moment. Mars with Neptune wants to create a new idealistic way of maintaining law and order.

Long term, I don't see this lasting past November election, when the nodes will square Neptune in Pisces. The north node in Gemini is were the power is...

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Selenite
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posted June 14, 2020 08:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Floyd was the same scumbag as the person who killed him (by accident). Floyd had been in jail 9 times, and had his gun pressed against an innocent pregnant woman belly for 20 minutes while they robbed her home and searched for money.

They are both scums.

I am not going to get entangled in this stupid debate, just wondering about some people's heroes.


Well, if that's true, then no, the cop is not the SAME scumbag, but a scumbag nonetheless. No one here is saying Floyd was a hero, but that the cop was a scumbag... Lots and lots of people suck :/

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teasel
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posted April 20, 2021 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guilty on all counts.
http://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/20/us/derek-chauvin-verdict-george-floyd

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posted April 20, 2021 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/242007.html

Another thread from last year.

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Leo-Cancer98
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posted April 20, 2021 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Guilty on all counts.

WOOHOOOOO!

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teasel
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posted April 20, 2021 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jazabel:
the only reason it exploded, or made to explode publicly now, is because it is ...voting time!
Immediately after the fiasco happened and exploded, a message appeared by the dems- vote! Along with their long repertoire of prime acts. And so did the masses - went out and voted.

Illuminating: http://twitter.com/hodgetwins/status/1271233774852833281?s=20


Both "sides" will always tell their supporters to go out and vote, if they want things to get better. This exploded, because a man was killed. Just reecntly, a child was murdered by police. He had his hands up, no weapons. Another young man was killed before that, and he called his mother, because he'd been pulled over by police.

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teasel
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posted April 20, 2021 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's almost his Mars return.

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