posted July 01, 2020 01:25 PM            

I've had to outgrow the over-emphasis on this. Virgo is my rising sign and Moon was in Capricorn when I was born. But being a predominantly Taurus individual (Sun conjunct Saturn there), it was easier to learn to accept a certain amount of slobbery. I just do not have the energy level or priority placed on keeping everything in order all the time. That's exhausting and not natural. Look at the outer display of nature, the real dynamic of Earth/iness: volcanoes, floods, droughts, landslides, falling leaves in autumn ... weeds. There is no prevailing constant orderliness and people who are caught up in that have control issues. If your mind is so delicate it can't handle some 'disorder' then you should never go outdoors, especially in urban areas.

So my wife and I have a sort of half-slob way we are okay with. We occasionally get tired of things piling up in certain places and put them in better order. Very little in our apartment is kept carefully arranged. (That's what drawers and closets are for.) We avoid rigidity that way because of two people having to navigate. If one person puts things in order their way, very often it won't make sense or be findable by the other person. So she arranges her stuff, I arrange mine.

posted July 01, 2020 02:32 PM            

Cap moon/Virgo sun - she is orderly but not organized with every little detail. She is organized in her work, and needs to impose order on her employees. Her home is not super organized. (Her sun is just barely in Virgo though, almost Leo.)

Cap sun/Virgo moon - I know two of them and they are both extremely organized, one of them neurotically so. (Same for a Gem sun/Virgo moon I know - that’s why I think it’s a Virgo moon quality. And same for a Virgo sun and moon I know.) With all of these four Virgo moons, it is specifically the HOME where I’ve witnessed this extreme organization.

Cap moon/Libra sun - completely utterly disorganized and FILTHY.

Cap moon/Aqua sun - same as the Libra sun. No concept of organization or cleaning or personal responsibility period, BUT certain weird specific things bother her (such as: cabinets left open. Yet she will leave dirty dishes all over the house.)

Cap moon/Scorpio sun - pretty well organized throughout her life, always put together.

So I wonder if it also has to do with House placements?

However, I do get the sense that the Capricorns in my life judge me (and others) pretty harshly if we don’t seem to have our sh** together in their eyes. It just depends on what is important to them. Cap moons seems to see people in a more professional/status-oriented way, like if you don’t have a good job/education/etc then you are not worth their time OR you need their “help”. Either way they look down on you in some way.