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Topic: Is it rare for a Capricorn or Saturn-influenced person, to never marry and have kids?
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Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted July 24, 2020 11:57 AM
I should rephrase that. Is it rare for a Saturnian man to (not) want to get married, and/or have children? I know Saturn is associated with Tradition&Fatherhood, but I wonder if it doesn’t always apply. I know a Sagittarius Sun&Moon woman, with Capricorn Venus square Saturn, who has an out-of-wedlock daughter turning 13 this year, yet is turning 39 and never married. I believe her child’s father is a man, like, 20 years her senior. Via Numerology, we also know how Saturn is associated with the number 36, and the following ages: 7, 14, 21, 28, 35, 42. 8, 16, 24, 32, 40. Saturn-Influenced as in: * Saturn In The 5th or 7th House * Unaspected Capricorn Sun * 1st Decan Capricorn Rising * 1st Decan Capricorn Moon * Sun-Saturn * Mercury-Saturn * Venus tightly conjunct/trine Saturn * Venus In The 10th House. * Midheaven Conjunction. * 10th House Sun * Saturn Exaltation. Deep Debilitation Points: * Capricorn Jupiter at the 5th degree * Aries Saturn at the 20th degree. ------------------ Cancer Rising 2nd House Leo Sun 3rd House Leo Mercury 6th House Sagittarius Moon & Pluto 1st House Cancer Venus & Mars 9th House Pisces Jupiter conjunct MC. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 556 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted July 24, 2020 02:23 PM
I don’t know how old should be a person to say “never”. A lot of people are not in hurry for it nowadays. One man has couple Capricorn placements, in his 40s. I think he’ll do it eventually when he’ll lower his requirements/ expectations. Capricorn people are pretty ambitious. I know several Capricorn personal planet placements (Different genders), they often relate family and money. I see they’re likely to think about kids when they think it’s affordable. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4508 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 24, 2020 03:33 PM
Fatherhood is strong with those factors, but it really depends on what the person prioritizes and how they function in close relationships.Is it rare? I don't know. Modern life has changed a lot of things for a lot of people. We aren't just populating the planet anymore, at least not in the so-called developed world. We have birth control of various kinds freely available and people want to delay that for when they 'feel ready' (sometimes never comes). But likelihoods, rarities, statistics don't really help you learn the language of astrology and focuses wrongly on a kind of predictive outlook -- how likely something is to happen in a person's life based on what other people have done. It's easy to go into that line of thinking, but it takes the focus off of the messages in a given person's birth chart. They are not the product of societal or astrological statistics. The language doesn't speak statistics, but the soul. ------------------ Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert birth chart rectification IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 24, 2020 04:50 PM
A Capricorn is always ready for a family. He wants it as he never had it the way it is supposed to be.The struggle within begins when he finds out that although he is married, deep down he feels alone. He is doing all the right things,but things in the end aren't going anywhere. Things become stagnant... IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 24, 2020 05:09 PM
If it is written, a Capricorn is going to find his other half later in life.Otherwise, he is going to live a stagnant life. And he is going to endure it. Till the end. Inside, a feeling of sadness will always be there... IP: Logged |
sis Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 24, 2020 08:20 PM
I have a Cap stellium in the 1st house. Sun, Ascendant, Mercury, Venus opposed by Saturn in the 7th. I am a 46 year old woman. I have never in my life wanted to give birth to a child or have a family. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted July 25, 2020 09:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by sis: I have a Cap stellium in the 1st house. Sun, Ascendant, Mercury, Venus opposed by Saturn in the 7th. I am a 46 year old woman. I have never in my life wanted to give birth to a child or have a family.
Nothing wrong with that. Are you married? IP: Logged |
sis Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 25, 2020 03:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: Nothing wrong with that. Are you married?
No, I am not. And I do not want to. But would not say no to an unplanned spiritual marriage; stars or the sunrise or the sunset or a tree or a mountain or ... as a witness IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 26, 2020 11:15 AM
Of course you want a spiritual connection. You detest superficial people. You have to be careful though, as you can be easily tricked by someone who understands that you will generously provide your devotion, your hard working and generally everything without never asking for anything. It would be difficult to break the chains. Capricorns would choose to whip themselves instead. It's not new for them. They carry the pain since childhood. They are very emotional. Forget about what they say about Capricorns being cold and distant. It is totally the other way round. Give them every inch of your love. Give them everything. They are totally worth it. All of it. IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 26, 2020 11:28 AM
It is not rare for a Capricorn to drag the cross throughout his life.IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted July 26, 2020 11:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Eternal Energy: If it is written, a Capricorn is going to find his other half later in life.Otherwise, he is going to live a stagnant life. And he is going to endure it. Till the end. Inside, a feeling of sadness will always be there...
What do you think about how via Numerology, Saturn is associated with the prime number 36, and the following ages: 7, 14, 21, 28, 35, 42. 8, 16, 24, 32, 40. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 15406 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 26, 2020 04:59 PM
My sister wanted kids, but her husband didn’t, so they are childless. She’s a cap. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted July 26, 2020 06:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: My sister wanted kids, but her husband didn’t, so they are childless. She’s a cap.
She chose one man, over family? Interesting. IP: Logged |
sis Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 26, 2020 07:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Eternal Energy: Of course you want a spiritual connection. You detest superficial people. You have to be careful though, as you can be easily tricked by someone who understands that you will generously provide your devotion, your hard working and generally everything without never asking for anything. It would be difficult to break the chains. Capricorns would choose to whip themselves instead. It's not new for them. They carry the pain since childhood. They are very emotional. Forget about what they say about Capricorns being cold and distant. It is totally the other way round. Give them every inch of your love. Give them everything. They are totally worth it. All of it.
I agree with every word you say ! and thank you Unfortunately, I did experience 'easily tricked by someone ' lasted almost 10 years... It was a huge lesson. But guess it was not enough cause I am going through something similar again. However, thanks to the previous experience I am faster now. It has been only 1,5 years and I am rushing to the exit door. This time I am not mistaking not being let go with true love. And yes, Capricorns are very emotional. They are the mystical sea goat, can operate between two worlds - the physical and emotional realm... 2 days ago a Capricorn acquaintance took her own life.. she was a diamond. she was very beautiful inside and out... everybody used to call her an angel helping everyone in need.. now everybody is in shock and in deep sorrow...nobody expected it from her... Many years ago, when I was young, a capricorn friend of mine took her life. she was a diamond too... Capricorns do not want to show their vulnerabilities but that does not mean they dont have emotions. They just dont want to bother you... when a capricorn loves they love deeply. they are responsible lovers and they are very loyal to their heart. IP: Logged |
Purple Lady Newflake Posts: 21 From: Northeast U.S. Registered: May 2020
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posted July 27, 2020 05:57 AM
I opened this thread because I have often wondered the same thing about people with a Virgo stellium. As user-Sis said, I never married or had a desire for children. Anyway, thanks for asking this question! I always question a cause-effect relationship with astrology and personality. I mean that in order to even read your first daily horoscope in a newspaper, you have to be a *tiny* bit interested in spiritual things. Linda Goodman's Sun Signs had a huge influence on my life because I obviously had a larger interest in spiritual things than a more--practical? worldly?--person. That didn't make me worse or better than people who grew up in the 70's and 80's who laughed at Sun Signs. But I do believe that to a degree we can't assess, astrology can appear self-fulfilling. Please note I say appear. If a Capricorn or Saturn-influenced person finds truth in thousands of years of wisdom about the sign of Capricorn or the influence of the planet Saturn, then I would definitely say such people are less likely to marry or want kids. Just one person's opinion. IP: Logged |
Somna7H Knowflake Posts: 1366 From: East India Company Registered: Apr 2018
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posted July 27, 2020 08:42 AM
I have Exalted Saturn Conjunct my 7th Lord, Mars in my 5th House. Never married, no partner, no child etc. I'm near 40. So not much time left in my hand. But everything in the hands of God. Nothing I can Do about it...------------------ My Chat : http://imgur.com/hCRDawD IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 27, 2020 10:52 AM
Dear sis,That admirable stoicism that you Capricorns have is both a blessing and a curse. In your case, honor this blessing because it helps you endure until your delayed Saturn in your 7th finally reaches you. You Capricorns are all diamonds. Your love partner of life is going to be very lucky to have you. IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 27, 2020 11:05 AM
Somna 7H,I get the feeling that someone here is moaning! And I also get the feeling that you are going to moan to your future loving partner! Why don't you start smiling instead?... IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted July 27, 2020 11:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Somna7H: I have Exalted Saturn Conjunct my 7th Lord, Mars in my 5th House. Never married, no partner, no child etc. I'm near 40. So not much time left in my hand. But everything in the hands of God. Nothing I can Do about it...
Which sign is on your 7th House cusp? Do you have any planets in it? In which house is the ruler located? IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 27, 2020 11:31 AM
My dear friend Leo-Cancer98,I'm afraid I can't help you with Numerology. I was never good at numbers. When we were learning maths by Pythagoras at school I was never happy about it! What I do know is that I got friends with Saturn through 5 and 3. And of course 8. IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 27, 2020 11:37 AM
By the way, 36 doesn't feel very Saturnian to me...I would say that it feels kind of...I don't know...Something like from Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 5008 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 27, 2020 01:08 PM
I think people mistake Caps for cold. We are (or we..I’m merely a Cap Moon) VERY, DEEPLY, emotional but we shut down when someone is less than straight or take us for granted. We can keep it going, we are used to “punishment” and are very hardy, but in the end we’ll just dive into the sea and no one will understand why! IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 27, 2020 03:20 PM
Dive into the sea!...Capricorn is the only sign depicting crystal clear its other half. IP: Logged |
Eternal Energy Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted July 28, 2020 06:48 AM
Leo-Cancer98,Thank you for your mention in Numerology. Though it is my belief that these things only act as a supplement confirmation to what already exists, I nevertheless calculated the number for Capricorn and Pisces. According to Chaldean Numerology, Capricorn is number 32 and Pisces is number 23. It is what I believe that a Pisces is an inseparable part of a Capricorn. The number is then reduced to 5. I am no expert. But I truly trust my soul. And my soul tells me that 5 is another form of my dear friend Saturn. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1458 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted July 28, 2020 01:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Eternal Energy: Leo-Cancer98,Thank you for your mention in Numerology. Though it is my belief that these things only act as a supplement confirmation to what already exists, I nevertheless calculated the number for Capricorn and Pisces. According to Chaldean Numerology, Capricorn is number 32 and Pisces is number 23. It is what I believe that a Pisces is an inseparable part of a Capricorn. The number is then reduced to 5. I am no expert. But I truly trust my soul. And my soul tells me that 5 is another form of my dear friend Saturn.
Awww, thank you so much for the rectified knowledge! If you don’t mind, what are the numbers for the following: Cancer/Moon Taurus/Venus Sagittarius/Jupiter Mars/Aries Leo/Sun Aquarius/Uranus IP: Logged |