posted August 16, 2020 05:27 PM            

It's moving back (retrograde) on top of my natal Saturn.

I think it went in Aqua far enough to provide relief and out of orb.

Then she came back for a double whammy.

It doesn't happen too often during a Saturn return.

Comments are welcome.

posted August 16, 2020 07:46 PM            

(1) The current Sun is on my North Node.

(2) The current North Node is on my Venus.

(3) Current Uranus just turned retrograde

(4) Current Mars is square to current Saturn and to current Pluto.

(5) Current Jupiter is conjunct current Pluto.

posted August 17, 2020 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Actually, it's pretty common for Saturn returns to do that. We get some relief when it moves to the edge of the aspect's orb (about 5.5°) or out of it completely. Then we get a better perspective on what it's about for us when it comes back later.

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That sounds correct. I think May 10th was the maximum entry into Aqua for Saturn and then the 11th was retrograde.

So about 2 degrees into Aqua. My Saturn is less than 4 degrees before Aqua. So about 6 degrees at the maximum. It seems like I felt relief before then, possibly about 4 degrees away from my Saturn.

I think the article states 40% of all Saturn returns retrograde into a double whammy.

posted August 17, 2020 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
"For those who use the Sabian Symbols, the symbol of the degree on which a (retrograding) planet falls at the time of it's opposition to the Sun will give a key both to the basic meaning of the confrontation experienced and to its potential solution as well. (Of course, that meaning is a general challenge to all humankind. However, it will affect each individual personally according to the planets house positions at the time.)" ... [Extracted from [b]Cycles of Becoming, by Alexander Ruperti. ] [/B]

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I am using July 20, 2020 for the date on your comment where the Sun was opposite the retrograde planet. I think it was 28 degrees Capricorn (28.40 Saturn).

PHASE 108 (CAPRICORN 28°): A LARGE AVIARY.

KEYNOTE: The enjoyment of spiritual values by the soul able to familiarize itself with their implications.

Birds symbolize spiritual forces, and the aviary presents us with a picture of these forces or desires contained within a mind open to the light of psychic or Soul realities, and bringing joy and harmony to the consciousness. The strenuous ascent represented by the preceding scene changes into a picture of familiarity with inspiring experiences. Yet this familiarity may also suggest a lack of spontaneity and of the thrill of discovery. To use modern terms, the peak experiences have become those of a high plateau, at which level one may lose one’s sense of direction at times.

posted August 17, 2020 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I am using July 20, 2020 for the date on your comment where the Sun was opposite the retrograde planet. I think it was 28 degrees Capricorn (28.40 Saturn).

PHASE 108 (CAPRICORN 28°): A LARGE AVIARY.

KEYNOTE: The enjoyment of spiritual values by the soul able to familiarize itself with their implications.

Birds symbolize spiritual forces, and the aviary presents us with a picture of these forces or desires contained within a mind open to the light of psychic or Soul realities, and bringing joy and harmony to the consciousness. The strenuous ascent represented by the preceding scene changes into a picture of familiarity with inspiring experiences. Yet this familiarity may also suggest a lack of spontaneity and of the thrill of discovery. To use modern terms, the peak experiences have become those of a high plateau, at which level one may lose one’s sense of direction at times.

This is the third stage in the sixtieth sequence of phases which lead to group mastery of cosmic energies. The youthful effort to reach the summits of cultural and spiritual attainment has settled down into a complex state of inspiration — a state which at times may bring confusion because of the multiplicity of the voices to which one has become open. One may speak here of CLAIRAUDIENCE, meaning a capacity for being responsive to many inner voices.
http://straightwoo.com/2016/01/15/sabian-symbols-capricorn-1-15/

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posted August 17, 2020 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
28Cap40 is Sabian Symbol Capricorn 29. ... Try also looking at Lynda Hill's Sabian Symbols
http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/

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Using your link and Capricorn 29, it has the root of my alias name handle, so surely that is correct. LOL

DIRECTORS OF A LARGE FIRM MEET IN SECRET CONFERENCE

This Symbol shows meeting with others in order to lay out plans; to have “Secret” meetings of people, people that are often VIP’s in some way or, at least, in charge of decisions or governments or empires. The “Directors” meet, they conference or just conference call, exchange views, ideas, gossip. There may be decisions to be made or plans to be laid out. Do you make all your decisions on your own, or do you need help? You can often call on the relevant knowledgeable friends or authorities, as you’re bound to know them or how to meet them, and you'll iron out the details. Sometimes, however, you may feel shut out by those "in charge". Masterly control. Sharing innermost secrets. Confidential information. Big guys. Calling the shots. Governments and secret spies. Strategies. Having a say. Councils. Doors.

posted August 18, 2020 01:16 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:

Using your link and Capricorn 29, it has the root of my alias name handle, so surely that is correct. LOL

DIRECTORS OF A LARGE FIRM MEET IN SECRET CONFERENCE

This Symbol shows meeting with others in order to lay out plans; to have “Secret” meetings of people, people that are often VIP’s in some way or, at least, in charge of decisions or governments or empires. The “Directors” meet, they conference or just conference call, exchange views, ideas, gossip. There may be decisions to be made or plans to be laid out. Do you make all your decisions on your own, or do you need help? You can often call on the relevant knowledgeable friends or authorities, as you’re bound to know them or how to meet them, and you'll iron out the details. Sometimes, however, you may feel shut out by those "in charge". Masterly control. Sharing innermost secrets. Confidential information. Big guys. Calling the shots. Governments and secret spies. Strategies. Having a say. Councils. Doors.

The Caution: Excluding those affected by decisions. Exploiting people or situations. Being kept in the dark. Gossip. Loose lips. Refusal of entry. The glamour of big business.

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Your above quote is for Capricorn 30, SG.

Lynda Hill's Capricorn 29 Sabian Symbol is :

"A WOMAN READING TEA LEAVES

This Symbol shows being able to see things that others miss or using the intuition in order to receive the gifts that divination can bring. While others just see something simple like a tea cup, you can have the ability to weave a story for yourself and others about how life will, or can, be. One has to put aside skepticism and embrace trust and intuitive knowing in order to be able to listen to the messages that are around. Be open to seeing meaning through the catalyst of the simplest of everyday events. You will receive messages, if you are open to 'seeing' the signs. You may have to deal with skeptical people. Symbolism that acts to open pathways to the spiritual center. Reading things. Non verbal clues. Tea and sympathy. Divining the future. Rituals. Oracles. Fine China. Guidance."

The Caution: Reliance on esoteric advice. Not trusting gut feelings. Looking for confirmation of fears. Taking things literally, not symbolically. Excessive tea or coffee drinking.
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!n my natal chart, Capricorn 29 is in 4th house - and forms a boomerang configuration with Uranus at Gemini 30 (in 9th, but on Mc); Chiron at Scorpio 30 (in 3rd) and Jupiter at Capricorn 1 (in 4th). ... So, I'm now 'awakened" to the possibility that Saturn is currently delivering events/messages/signs that will (have the potential to) open my eyes about the lesson(s) of that natal Uranus-Chiron-Jupiter stimulation/irritation triangle.

And, of course ... transit Saturn will deliver those messages throughout the period from 20th July 2020 (when retrograding transit Saturn, at Capricorn 29, was last opposite transit Sun) to 2nd August 2021 (when retrograding Saturn, at Aquarius 11, is next opposite transit Sun).
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Thus ... the Sabian Symbol for Aquarius 11 tells us what the lesson(s) of transit Saturn will focus upon next. ... But, few will use this unfolding process as a mechanism for seeing life events as a pattern (rather than a series of unconnected events).*

"Lynda Hill Aquarius 11 Sabian Symbol

DURING A SILENT HOUR, A PERSON RECEIVES A NEW INSPIRATION WHICH MAY CHANGE THEIR LIFE

This speaks of noticing those moments of “Inspiration” that come through you and act to move, inspire, propel or goad you into changing your life. Taking time out, having a “Silent Hour”, even if it’s just five minutes, can regularly bring you new ideas, solutions and breakthroughs. You could find that despite racking your brain there has been no rational guidance. Slowing down and opening up to the message of your inner inspiration can bring huge shifts in your life. The rational mind can be noisy and interfere with the flow of intuition. A new inspiration is coming, one that may change your life. Be still and listen! Welling creative power. Inspiration = breathing in the spirit. Coming to terms with reality. Spiritual awakenings. Quiet moments. Meditation. Intuitive awareness. U-turns.

The Caution: Exclusion of others. Obsession with one's self or objectives. Being a hermit. Hearing voices that confuse. Feeling trapped. Dropping things too quickly. Being fickle."

posted August 19, 2020 08:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Yes, experiencing round two of my Saturn return right now. In my experience I've had to speak up more with immediate family about boundaries. It doesn't feel good, because we all need help sometimes. But they have been listening and giving me more time and space to do what I need to accomplish for my goals.
This is my last week of college in my bachelors program. My family also wants to celebrate that with me soon. Which I am extremely grateful for. My fiance got me a gift certificate for a spa day already to congratulate me.
So when it does direct on Sept 28th. I'll experience life post bachelors degree.

Working on my last reading log with some BSing online breaks. So sick of doing these.

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posted August 19, 2020 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Graham, thanks for the correction and showing me how to apply that logic.

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posted August 19, 2020 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Graham, thanks for the correction and showing me how to apply that logic.

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