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PhoenixRising
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posted October 13, 2020 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

In a channeled reading Cayce gave to a woman whom he said was an astrologer in ancient Egypt, he stated:

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“The Egyptian and Persian records are quite varied. If the entity would study astrology, do not put the signs in the Egyptian but rather in the Persian, for the Persian interpretations are more proficient than the Egyptian. The variations in time (due to precession) have been corrected by the Persians and not by the Egyptians. The Egyptian calculations are 30 degrees off.” (Reading 2011-3)"


I think Vedic uses sidereal astrology and Western uses tropical. I confirmed with actual telescope readings and Vedic is closer to reality.

Western astrology was supposed to mislead just as the religious bible book was. They add all those leap year days and crap and makes it even more complicated and shifty.

Everyone should confirm their planets and house placement using Vedic charts if they are serious. In fact if you want to escape the zodiac wheel it is mandatory lol

I use this site. Appearance is in western circle chart. Remember, a circle traps you with magic inside it. A square makes you escape , hence Vedic is the way out.

http://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/sidereal-transit-chart-astrology-calculator

Very important, chose "Galactic center" option before hitting the submit/calculate button.

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Travelman
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posted October 13, 2020 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok.

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posted October 13, 2020 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are more accurate yeah and they're observable. On my own I read sidereal charts with whole sign houses, but when in Rome...

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posted October 13, 2020 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I confirm my observations with Stellarium and inputing birth location.


I updated my original posts above. I do not know yet why Vedic inverts the western house numbers 4 and 10 in my chart. The 4th vedic interpretation seems right for me and not the 10th. I will keep it in the back of my mind and conclude my personal lessons. You should look at important events in your life and conclude with the interpretation and stick with that. If in doubt use stellarium. But even there, sun retrogrades which it should not. I think its because of the leap year calculations. Do you see how they trick you in the magic circle? Going back to 360 days in a year is another topic lol.


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I use this site. Appearance is in western circle chart. Remember, a circle traps you with magic inside it. A square makes you escape , hence Vedic is more realistic.

http://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/sidereal-transit-chart-astrology-calculator

Very important, chose "Galactic center" option before submitting button.


Your life purpose is indicated by North node. And I was wrongly advised by astro.com.

The above site correctly matched my life purpose.

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posted October 13, 2020 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can even get free transits on that site. very valuable.

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posted October 13, 2020 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might say , I can know entire make up of a person using charts now. YEs, agreed. In the coming age of Aqua and Capricorn, we will know a persons intentions anyways. No lies will be kept from you. Perhaps you will not need external tools like charts then.

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MMarie
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posted October 13, 2020 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit: NVM answered my own question!

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posted October 14, 2020 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Added Cayce's reading to the original post, confirming most of us are off by 30 degrees. I guess people on borderline should really consider this and do as suggested below. Others are fine in general.

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posted October 14, 2020 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You rang?

J/K (my handle and all)

Actually, the account in the Cayce work is more complicated and nuanced than what that one excerpt and one reading seems to belie.

Here is another excerpt from another reading on the topic:

"...There are two, yea, three phases or schools through which such information, such charts, such characters have been carried--the Egyptian, the Persian, the Indian. The Persian is a combination and the older of all of these, and these are as logos [(?) stenographer's question mark use], or as charts that have been set.* That they have become as experiences in the activities of indivdiuals, to be sure, is not disputed; but the world does not govern man, Man governs the world! And the inclinations astrologically show whether man has not applied will!" Excerpted from Reading 826-8

*GCE's use of bold.

There are couple very important clues to glean from the above. The Persian reference, and the part I put in bold above--the specific use of the word/term set as well as "logos". Cayce's source was most likely talking about the concept of fixed archetypes.

It is the Tropical Zodiac which has been set i.e. fixed.

Then consider history. Persians were what ancient Iranians were called to over simplify it. Persians/Iranians are of course Arabic. Arabic astrologers were some of the finest and most highly regarded astrologers in antiquity. Like his source pointed out, other groups borrowed from/were influenced by them since they were the oldest system. Not mentioned by Cayce's source, but of course the Greeks were very influenced by them and also the Egyptians in other ways.

To my knowledge, most of the Arabic systems of astrology use a Tropical Zodiac.

Whatever the case, it doesn't really matter too much. Any non sunday school researcher of the Cayce work knows that Cayce's source rarely referenced Signs--especially when compared to how often they referenced to Planetary indications and "sojourns" (i.e. our experiences in the different nonphysical/afterlife dimensions that are symbolically connected to different Planets).

While there are some references here and there to Signs, Cayce's source was far, far more focused on Planetary symbols and strengths. His source would start most "Life readings" with something like,
Astrologically, the entity entered in from (this or that Planet), with (these other planets contributing) and thus the entity tends towards this or that behavior/pattern, etc All depending on the specific combination and strength of Planets involved.

Sun was noted as the "infinity forces", Moon was noted for connection to romance and to material urges, fear/worry, with spiritual weakness urges (very much a 2nd Center energy). Mercury was that of mind, Venus was that of love in a more personal and harmony sense, Mars was that of anger/strife, Jupiter was that of spiritual strength, universal consciousness, and the ennobling and/or expanding force, Saturn correlated with the experience of the destruction/death of the Soul and when people came in with strong Saturn often they had major ego/fear/materialism/selfishness issues, Uranus was that of the psychic and extremes (and unusual), Neptune was that of mystic/mysticism and unusual psychic sensitivity/awareness (also often with a strong connection to oceans and large bodies of water), Pluto that of consciousness with a definite tendency towards the lower side of material life (i.e. ego, fear, selfishness), and Arcturus as the Star system which our system revolves around and represented the door or gateway energetically out of our little system and into more expanded, faster vibratory systems.

Of our little system in and of itself, Cayce's source said the Sun and Jupiter were the higher forces of all the planets i.e. represented the most expanded, fast vibratory dimensions and consciousness levels. More specifically, it seems (I'm reading between the lines plenty here) that the Sun when it was a predominant indication, correlated with a Soul coming in direct from full, conscious awareness/union with their Expanded/Higher self and these don't necessarily have to be in this system and either are about to move out of same or have come back for service purposes. Basically Sun leads to Arcturus and Arcturus leads back to Sun if they choose to come back.

Jupiter correlated with the dimension of Souls who are guides/helpers who have been around the block in their service. Not quite at the Solar level yet, but not far from. It was mentioned that sometimes some of Cayce's guidance came from the Jupitarian connected level. Not all by any means, as other times it connected to the Universal forces and "those before the throne" which symbolically means, the Co-Creator level where the individuals are fully conscious of their Oneness with Source and with the Whole.

(On a side, but definitely related note, OBE author and founder of The Monroe Institute, Robert A. Monroe, had a brief experience in this latter level with those he labeled the "completed" ones. He was gently turned away, saying that he didn't yet belong, was still small, and had gifts to bring back to the Whole--which he later realized referred to his retrieval service and role).

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