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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted October 21, 2020 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just started receiving counselling recently and talking to my counsellor really made me realize I'm actually not as open about my emotions as I thought. People always see me as if I have no problems at all and I realize this is why I've been feeling so lonely all these years. It's like people know me but they don't. A lot of people love me and I'm usually pretty well-liked. But I seriously feel like how some celebrities feel sometimes (I guess), like everyone knows me but not really. Maybe it's my fault I always present myself in a way that people think I'm perfect when I'm really not. But it is due to this I have been unable to truly open up to my boyfriend all these years. I always feel invalidated whenever I try to tell someone how things make me feel or when I am going through something really bad. People usually just say I can get through it or try to offer me advice or try to lighten up my mood, but not really listen. The worst ones try to turn it around and make it all about them, so I tend to avoid telling such people heavy stuff. That's why I really never tell anyone about things.

As a matter of fact, I am the exact opposite of what my chart says when it comes to dealing with emotions. I have 1st house Moon in Cancer and based on descriptions, I'm supposed to wear my heart on my sleeve. I'm supposed to have ease and comfort expressing exactly how I feel. But I just find that to be the opposite. I tend to lock myself up in my room when I'm going through a really hard time, hidden from public eye. Not just from random people but also people close to me. I have never opened up to my parents about anything unless they force me to. And recently, I've only started opening up to my boyfriend because of counselling. Even then, I feel so much guilt because I do not want to be a burden to anyone. Maybe the only thing I can resonate with with this placement is that I love and care very deeply about my family and people close to me. I also tend to instinctively know how to comfort someone--even strangers, and I can feel someone's emotions just as if I were them. People are usually very comfortable confiding in me. I'm not as judgmental even with all my Virgo placements, and I think it is largely due to my Cancer moon in the 1st.

My Moon is very strong, well-placed, and well-aspected. It's also a singleton water planet in my chart. It only receives sextiles exact from my chart ruler and Venus.

I just don't understand where in my chart this is all coming from and why it is so opposite for me than it's supposed to be.


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Dumuzi
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posted October 21, 2020 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cancer moons can be the type to bury their feelings (hard shell)

cancer can be the epitome of the kind of person who says "nothing is wrong" while they're seething inside

also i personally don't care for placidus and would put your moon in the second house

on top of that your moon is aspected by mercury which can change a lot

it will give you a different approach to your feelings

it's good though that you're starting to open up to your bf about your feelings and dealing with those issues, because anyone who cares about you won't think you're a burden for having them and you shouldn't feel like that either (i know realizing that can be easier said than done unfortunately)

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posted October 21, 2020 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
cancer moons can be the type to bury their feelings (hard shell)

cancer can be the epitome of the kind of person who says "nothing is wrong" while they're seething inside

also i personally don't care for placidus and would put your moon in the second house

on top of that your moon is aspected by mercury which can change a lot

it will give you a different approach to your feelings

it's good though that you're starting to open up to your bf about your feelings and dealing with those issues, because anyone who cares about you won't think you're a burden for having them and you shouldn't feel like that either



I guess I forgot about the hard shell part 😅 but if you do put it in the 2nd house, that might make more sense to me. Although I'd have to read up on that one to see if I relate to it.

Just curious.. how come you don't like placidus? which system do prefer to use and why?

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Dumuzi
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posted October 21, 2020 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:

I guess I forgot about the hard shell part 😅 but if you do put it in the 2nd house, that might make more sense to me. Although I'd have to read up on that one to see if I relate to it.

Just curious.. how come you don't like placidus? which system do prefer to use and why?


i find placidus can really fall apart for a lot of people and whole sign actually tends to be more accurate

when i read charts for people on my own no mater how theyre presented i read whole sign and ive found this especially helpful when the houses are very unevenly sized and so on

i prefer sidereal placements too because they're actually observable and located to actual positions of the stars and planets

i just use tropical and placidus here because it can work for the most part (particularly if you mostly read the planets in relation to each other) so it's good enough and it's what people here prefer generally

ultimately you can get the same person using any system so it's a bit nitpicky but 🤷‍♀️

i think reading charts with different house systems is for the best helps you decide for yourself

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posted October 21, 2020 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i find placidus can really fall apart for a lot of people and whole sign actually tends to be more accurate

when i read charts for people on my own no mater how theyre presented i read whole sign and ive found this especially helpful when the houses are very unevenly sized and so on

i prefer sidereal placements too because they're actually observable and located to actual positions of the stars and planets

i just use tropical and placidus here because it can work for the most part (particularly if you mostly read the planets in relation to each other) so it's good enough and it's what people here prefer generally

ultimately you can get the same person using any system so it's a bit nitpicky but 🤷‍♀️

i think reading charts with different house systems is for the best helps you decide for yourself


That's a very interesting take on astrology, seeing as how I've always used placidus and tropical astrology to read charts. I guess they're a good starting point, but for doing in-depth readings, you're probably right about using sidereal and whole sign system.

I've read the descriptions for Moon in the 2nd house. I can relate to them very much, especially with the part of the mother leaving inheritances. My mom was always very frugal to the point of barely buying me anything other than what I need, but I know she has a lot of investments and inheritances from her parents. I do tend to save a lot one day and then spend a lot the next.

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posted October 21, 2020 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey!
The Chinese sign is something else to take into account.
If I remember correctly.. I think you are a Tiger.. but I could be wrong? I'm a Tiger myself and I remember seeing a thread that made me think you were born in a Tiger year. This was a while back..
I have a Pisces Mercury so you know we can be loopy... Sorry if I totally imagined this! loll

Tigers are one of the traditionally "stronger" signs in Chinese astrology and people often perceive them as having it all together.

I think it's interesting to look at the Chinese/Western combinations... Being a Leo Sun sign and a Tiger would be enough to hide the Cancer Moon.. even if you don't mean to.
People would perceive you as having a lot of energy and strength.

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posted October 21, 2020 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SolarLeo

As a fellow Cancer Moon (conjuct MC), I relate to a whole lot about what you just said. Congrats on working through this to gain the happiness & support that you deserve!! I've made a lot of improvement in this area myself after setting boundaries.

It always boggles my mind when someone actually believes that ANY person is perfect and never needs ANY support - yet they always have their *own* hand out to you! Freaking idiots. We all have flaws and we all need love. Period.

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posted October 21, 2020 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Hey!
The Chinese sign is something else to take into account.
If I remember correctly.. I think you are a Tiger.. but I could be wrong? I'm a Tiger myself and I remember seeing a thread that made me think you were born in a Tiger year. This was a while back..
I have a Pisces Mercury so you know we can be loopy... Sorry if I totally imagined this! loll

Tigers are one of the traditionally "stronger" signs in Chinese astrology and people often perceive them as having it all together.

I think it's interesting to look at the Chinese/Western combinations... Being a Leo Sun sign and a Tiger would be enough to hide the Cancer Moon.. even if you don't mean to.
People would perceive you as having a lot of energy and strength.


Makes sense to me as a fellow Chinese Tiger.

I remember telling a couple of girlfriends a while back that I'm strong, but I'm not a statue. And THEY were Tigers too!! So WTF?

Give me the same support that I give to you. End of story.

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Dumuzi
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posted October 21, 2020 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
That's a very interesting take on astrology, seeing as how I've always used placidus and tropical astrology to read charts. I guess they're a good starting point, but for doing in-depth readings, you're probably right about using sidereal and whole sign system.

I've read the descriptions for Moon in the 2nd house. I can relate to them very much, especially with the part of the mother leaving inheritances. My mom was always very frugal to the point of barely buying me anything other than what I need, but I know she has a lot of investments and inheritances from her parents. I do tend to save a lot one day and then spend a lot the next.


i see it similar to various forms of divination tarot, iching, geomancy, runes etc you should always get the same result for the same question regarding message

you might get a few different details from different methods but overall result should be the same

one of the first things i did when i was learning was after i got the basics down and learned my own chart i did chart readings pretending i knew more than i did

when id be off id try to see why and one if the things i noticed was house systems

i have trouble learning without doing and i get bored easily if i just focus on one thing and dont jump aroumd and try other ****

people ultimately develop their own preferences

observable placements are helpful for me when it comes to the occult too so thats another part of it

anyway im not surprised it fits, try finding your vedic moon nakshatra as well even people who dislike the system tend to accept their nakshatra as accurate

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posted October 21, 2020 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Hey!
The Chinese sign is something else to take into account.
If I remember correctly.. I think you are a Tiger.. but I could be wrong? I'm a Tiger myself and I remember seeing a thread that made me think you were born in a Tiger year. This was a while back..
I have a Pisces Mercury so you know we can be loopy... Sorry if I totally imagined this! loll

Tigers are one of the traditionally "stronger" signs in Chinese astrology and people often perceive them as having it all together.

I think it's interesting to look at the Chinese/Western combinations... Being a Leo Sun sign and a Tiger would be enough to hide the Cancer Moon.. even if you don't mean to.
People would perceive you as having a lot of energy and strength.


chinese astrology is so much more than the year, the year is the least personal placement actually, and a good chinese astrologer can get just as much info as any other form of astrology

it's year, month, day, hour (i think week or minute too) each attributed to a different animal or element (hiur being equivalent of ascendant or some **** ) so im tiger year but im also monkey month pig day snake hour and if i remember right monkey shows up again in minute (?)cant remember elements

apparently the enemy animal energies in my chart create a good deal of friction and the chinese astrologer i knew discussed my substance abuse issues and so on

i cant read it for **** personally but it's interesting

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posted October 21, 2020 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Dumuzi has touched on, both Moon and especially Cancer energies tend to be rather defensive and hidden in nature. They share this with Pluto and Scorpio, and also Capricorn.

It's these 3 Signs and 2 Planets which often hide their deeper feelings and thoughts the most. It's because they have deep and sensitive feeling nature, and have a tendency towards fear to some extent.

Now, if you had say Sag Moon conjunct Sag Asc, chances are the Lunar energy would become more expressive and open--still highly emotional, but likely more carefree about showing it, especially to people that one is relatively closer to and trusts.

Conversely, if a person with strong Cancer, Scorpio, Capricorn, Moon, and/or Pluto really feels close to someone, and feels that they can really trust them, then they may open up the flood gates of emotion and become much more vulnerable.

There are a lot of misconceptions and not particularly good astrology in the mainstream. Especially now with the Internet and every Sunday school astro interested person putting out their opinions. There is a lot of coal out there, but relatively few diamonds. I mean that's pretty much true in every field and subject, but in some of them, at least you have to have a certain amount of training or practical experience before you're considered learned in that field or subject.

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posted October 21, 2020 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ma has Cancer moon, but I used to see her as a strong Aries woman. It was surprise to find out she has couple planets in Cancer.

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posted October 21, 2020 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aspects to the Moon can change the expression of the Moon's sign.

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