posted October 21, 2020 03:24 PM            

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America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between—Oscar Wilde

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The sound of falling statues reverberates through the bones of slaves from Africa buried in mass graves. Bronze tyrants tumble from their pedestals, and the dolorous ghosts of millions of native Americans, great herds of buffalo and forests of giant Redwoods emerge into the waning light of this epoch.

As Pluto’s gravitational force dredges up the grisly truths that lie buried under streets and skyscrapers, America journeys down into the Underworld to be scooped out, humbled, and reborn. Pluto’s transits in our own birth charts, and in the charts of nations, are never tepid or benign. They are always slow, relentless, and transformative.

When Pluto entered Capricorn in 2008, the fissures in financial systems widened and the blight in governments exposed disturbing division and misuse of power. As Leonard Cohen released his prophetic single, You Want It Darker in the September of 2016, Pluto and Jupiter were forming a square that intensified in January 2020 by conjunction. Neptune, purveyor of contagion, illusion, deception, and deceit, slipped in behind the green curtain, a making a slippery trine to Mercury in the US birth chart. The star-spangled banner fluttered in the winds of change.

Pluto’s opposition to Mercury in America’s birth chart (2017-24) reminds us that the foundations of The Land of the Free are dug deep into the black earth of genocide, slavery, and appalling exploitation of the nature. Mercury presides over communication, intelligence, propaganda, paranoia, media, and travel. The old certainties have become unmoored.

America is not the only modern nation to rise from a brutal past, but as people march through the streets, emboldened by anger and grief, Pluto irradiates Mercury in self-protective, emotive Cancer in the American birth chart of July 4th, 1776.

Pluto’s imminent Return in the American birth chart has cast a long shadow over events in America since 2017. Pluto edges ever closer to an exact opposition (until 2022) to President Trump’s Achilles heel—an excruciatingly painful Venus/Saturn conjunction, a well-defended place of personal vulnerability. It is unlikely that Trump will be re-elected, unless to bring the United States of America to its knees at Pluto’s behest. Neptune squares the President’s Gemini Sun and Sagittarius Moon till 2022; not a comfortable transit unless we surrender, accept, and bow our head to our compassionate heart.

As Pluto stirs up all that is putrefying in the basements of government and financial institutions, the scent of anarchy pervades the old order and a frisson of terror reverberates through the thick-piled carpets of the establishment. America declared its independence from Britain in 1776 when Pluto was moving through Capricorn and Mozart was composing music that roused passion and pain.

Pluto will be in Aquarius from 2024 to 2044 as we begin to make reparations for historic injustices and re-image a world where exploitation of people, animals and nature will be relegated to his-story. Jupiter and Saturn enter Aquarius as 2020 comes to an end and we (hopefully) begin to address the collective trauma that defines the experience of so many people whose lives are still curtailed by inequality and blatant injustice.

Herschel “discovered” Uranus, that planet associated with breakthroughs and revolution as Pluto moved through Aquarius. Both France and America come full circle. Back to a time of upheaval, revolution and epochal events that marked the late 1700s. France will have a Pluto Return when Pluto moves into Aquarius, a reminder of the 10 blood-stained years of terror that uprooted ancient institutions and shaped a new nation by the collective will of the people.

The first Industrial Revolution was under way as Pluto moved through Aquarius. Captain Cook and William Bligh searched for new consumables in southern lands as Pluto’s passage through Aquarius marked the beginning of the climate crisis that now threatens our survival as a species.

We face into the collective uncertainty of a second wave of COVID-19 in some countries, and a global economic depression, as the Pluto/Saturn/Jupiter conjunction square Eris of 2020 casts a long shadow over our lives.

In America, the intensity of the aftershock will reverberate for years to come as Saturn transits the American South Node (karma) awakening the ghosts from the past. Jupiter magnifies the need for social reform as it conjoins the Moon (the people) in the American birth chart, followed by a solidifying transit of Saturn in 2022 and a Chiron Return in 2025 which may bring a deep healing, a new sense of belonging and rooting in this Land of the Brave.

The coming years will reveal inconvenient truths and painful consequences for past actions.

Pluto’s Return in the birth chart of America symbolises the end of a status quo that has excluded so many for so long. Thomas Jefferson, who owned more than six hundred slaves wrote, “the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.”

The death rattle of the old order is amplified by political rhetoric and resistance to change …. law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual, wrote Thomas Jefferson with supreme irony.

America’s Pluto Return heralds a new epoch, a new dream. For America. For us all.

posted October 24, 2020 03:44 PM            

There is some hope from the Election result Date of Nov 4th 2020 though.

We have Tr Mercury Stationary conjunct Fixed Star Arcturus whilst Tr Jupiter is energizing Lyra. These are allegedly the 5th D Origin Points of Human Souls, and some Ancient Wisdom may collectively Dawn on Humanity thanks to the Results of this Election.

Maybe that Wisdom will prevent strife during Pluto Return.

I wish to stay Optimistic, even with Tr Saturn conjunct USA's Pluto during election Results Day.

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posted October 26, 2020 01:07 PM            

When Saturn and Pluto more fully move into Sidereal Capricorn (like starting around 7 to 10 degrees or so), out of cusping Sagittarius, shite's gonna get real, for realzs. Especially for America/Americans, but also for the world in general.

posted October 26, 2020 04:47 PM            

It is also a good time to learn astrology in this political/mundane context since the USA is one of very few nations with birth horoscopes through which Pluto has tracked its full cycle. A good time to learn about the complexities of power dynamics.

posted October 26, 2020 09:32 PM            

Galactic, most channellers are recipients of AI program. Its like Apples siri is on the other side. I highly encourage people refuse anyone who wants to help. Do not lose your sovereignity unless you are absolutely sure of the entity communicating with you.

In the age of Aqua , Jupiter and Mercury will lose its value.

Go to stellarium and watch for yourself, the sun was in Gemini. I saw it with my eyes.

posted October 27, 2020 02:09 PM            

I am not very Plutonian, so maybe that's why I can't relate.

Pluto in the US chart in 1776 heralded a time when the forces of freedom, self-reliance and self governance fought and triumphed over the forces of tyranny and oppression and reshaped the land.

Ask yourself, who are currently the forces that are preventing the movement of free expression in this country? Who are the people being censored and deplatformed? Who has the powerful mainstream media aligned itself with? Who is the candidate currently being supported by the big tech industry? Who is the PC police telling people how to think and what to say?

Who are the ones being told that government has the right to keep you at home and restrict your activities whether you like it or not, for the "greater" good? Who are the forces telling the masses they must stay home and not participate in businesses, not gather together in large groups?

I think the answer to those questions should give one an idea of the forces and factions at play in 2020.

Someone mentioned the ghosts of slaves past. Ok, good point. But how about the ghosts of aborted babies? Surely, there are way more of them. How come this is never mentioned? This is 2020, not 1776, so yes, the issues of death, dying, deads are being re-ignited and the narrative has expanded. Those are the newer issues that will be debated over the next few years. Do you truly beleive that the addition of Judge Amy Barrett to the Supreme Court was accidental or a fluke? Or that it is part of the Pluto re-positioning?

posted October 27, 2020 03:03 PM            

Between my partner, an unusually intune and guidance conscious friend of mine, and myself, we have received MANY messages over the years of coming bigger changes that will make COVID look like a leisurely stroll in the park during a partly sunny, 75*F and low humidity day with the birds a' chirping.

I don't know the exact timing of this, but we have gotten general range clues.

It's not "doom and gloom" in the least bit from the higher perspective. From a Source and Expanded Guidance perspective, it's the Creative Forces temporarily intervening and leveling the playing field. This world/humanity is overly controlled by some very, very, very wealthy and very psychopathic type people.

Edgar Cayce's guidance called these dark Souls the sons of Belial, and said that they were responsible for much of the breakdowns, strife, problems/societal collapses, and one of the cataclysms in Atlantis, and he frequently hinted to outright said that America was more or less Atlantis come again. Many of the same Souls and Spirits incarnating with those subconscious memories and energies strong, and such individuals would be either forces for weal or woe.

Well the "woe" oriented ones now have full control. Hence the intervention. Things are dire and far worse off than most would like to believe. If you buy into b.s. left vs right politics stuff, you'll never see deeper into the core issues and problems as the plutocrats mentioned above don't care about these labels and fund and play both sides as is necessary and convenient for them.

Being attached to the left or right is about the clearest sign that a person is not anything even remotely close to being "woke" so called.

posted October 27, 2020 04:39 PM            

That is what all of this is about. In conditions of stress , hardships, anxiety , many will awake naturally. In a luxurious life, no one wakes up. This is where it all will apex and again the flock will be divided in the sheeps and goats.

posted October 27, 2020 04:42 PM            

Usually air sigs are lean/slim, hawk faced ,,
His large physique explains it.

posted October 27, 2020 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
A lot of doomed and gloomed dark utterances in this thread.

I am not very Plutonian, so maybe that's why I can't relate.

Pluto in the US chart in 1776 heralded a time when the forces of freedom, self-reliance and self governance fought and triumphed over the forces of tyranny and oppression and reshaped the land.

Ask yourself, who are currently the forces that are preventing the movement of free expression in this country? Who are the people being censored and deplatformed? Who has the powerful mainstream media aligned itself with? Who is the candidate currently being supported by the big tech industry? Who is the PC police telling people how to think and what to say?

Who are the ones being told that government has the right to keep you at home and restrict your activities whether you like it or not, for the "greater" good? Who are the forces telling the masses they must stay home and not participate in businesses, not gather together in large groups?

I think the answer to those questions should give one an idea of the forces and factions at play in 2020.

Someone mentioned the ghosts of slaves past. Ok, good point. But how about the ghosts of aborted babies? Surely, there are way more of them. How come this is never mentioned? This is 2020, not 1776, so yes, the issues of death, dying, deads are being re-ignited and the narrative has expanded. Those are the newer issues that will be debated over the next few years. Do you truly beleive that the addition of Judge Amy Barrett to the Supreme Court was accidental or a fluke? Or that it is part of the Pluto re-positioning?

Also, just looking at Pluto returns in the American chart can be myopic. Because at the same time Pluto is returning, transit Neptune is opposing US Natal Neptune in Virgo. So our sense of what is real and unreal, our instinctual spirituality, our instinctual compassion are being challenged to see things in a different way.Things may not be what they seem.

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I believe her appointment is a joke, an insult, and contemptuous towards the majority in this country.

posted October 27, 2020 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
BTW, Trump is a Taurus (Sun conjunct Uranus) as per Sidereal.

Usually air sigs are lean/slim, hawk faced ,,
His large physique explains it.

His MErcury is in the heart of Gemini .

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In tropical, he has Leo ASC. It is the ASC that primarily corresponds to the looks/physical body, and Leo is one of the bigger and thicker ones for males in the archetypal sense.

When he was young, he was slimmer and not as muscular nor athletic looking as a typical Leo ASC--this relates to his ASC cusping Virgo, Sun being in Gemini conjunct Gemini Uranus--that and a severe lack of exercise--he has weird beliefs about exercise.

The fact that he treats his body like crap via lack of exercise and very crappy diet (lot's of fast food), and yet is in as decent health as he is at his age, is a testament to the innate vitality of Leo ASC with Leo Mars conjunct it i.e. his Soul connected to a body with a lot of innate vitality and that has gotten him through. If he had exercised, trained, and eaten well his whole life, he would be in great shape physically at least, and maybe could have even been a competitive athlete when younger, but if one doesn't work on or hone their potential, it will suffer and weaken.

Anyways, this is not a Trump thread, so I will not continue.

Greater discernment, clarity of mind. and holistic logic would be very helpful for you to practice. Is the Planet Uranus very strong in your chart? Do you have your chart up anywhere?

posted October 27, 2020 11:16 PM            

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Also: what about the ghosts of all of the women who died because of botched abortions? Or who would die if something wasn't done about pregnancies that would kill them (and the choice to have to abort at that stage, must hold the worst kind of grief for the rest of their lives). Is it better to let both die? In that case, why would we need medical intervention for anything? Let's all die of the flu, or let broken limbs remain broken. If you're pushing the point that all of this is God's will.

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Not quite following your train of thought, as I said never anything about God's will. You must be mistaking me for someone else.

To answer your questions about how many women died of botched abortions:
https://www.al.com/news/2019/05/how-many-women-died-in-abortions-before-roe-v-wade.html

According to Planned Parenthood,
"It is estimated that before 1973, 1.2 million U.S. women resorted to illegal abortion each year and that unsafe abortions caused as many as 5,000 annual deaths."

I think we can all agree that there are way more aborted babies than women dying from botched abortions or women forced to carry unsafe pregnancies. So pitting numbers against numbers would not be in favor of the pro-choice group.

However this entire convo falls under the province of Pluto and death. Like I said, these issues will be hotly debated as Pluto is maturing into its return in the US chart.

posted October 28, 2020 12:08 AM            

More specifically this part of the song, which should have "politics" or "political parties" added to the list of what "they" keep us doped with: http://youtu.be/eSulxTBJFnI?t=123

posted October 28, 2020 03:48 PM            

My uranus/pluto is in 6th house per Vedic/sidereal and both in Virgo