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stone1
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posted October 21, 2020 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somehow I am easily disappointed lately, and didn't find any transit that means much (newbie here lol)
Is transit moon's conjunction to neptune can make people easily feeling disappionted?
Any other aspects you can think of?
Tires of this feeling.
Thanks for any inputs!

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posted October 22, 2020 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune to personal planets can cause disillusionment and disappointment.

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posted October 22, 2020 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In synastry at least....

Neptune opp Venus
Neptune opp Mercury - led to poor communication/different wave lengths which...

...coupled with Neptune square Jupiter (especially this one) caused a lot of disappointment.

Those three were not easy all combined but that last one, especially, I think allowed for tons of (lovely sounding) promises to be made but many of them never actually happened.

I really liked that girl too, quite an infatuation, but too many tough aspects in synastry.

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posted October 22, 2020 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks!
I suppose composite nep sq jup causes the same feeling? that's me and my love, i believe

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posted October 22, 2020 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Travelman:
Neptune opp Mercury - led to poor communication/different wave lengths

more like different universes..

I think this aspect is extremely underrated when it comes to negative synastry aspects.. it's worse than speaking completely different languages or speaking to the wall.

Something odd that seems to happened is that the person I've had this synastry aspect with (his Neptune opposite my Mercury) would easily believe without a doubt the most unbelievable lie, smth so crazy that even my 5yo cousin wouldn't believe.. but he didn't believe simple mundane things that naturally happen all the time.
Even my friend who has this aspect natally can not handle it in synastry.
Mercury in the other's person 12th H has indentical effects.

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posted October 22, 2020 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune is the planet that is directly linked to disappointment but if disappointment isn't not due to you being infatuated or seeing only the good side of someone or smth (which might not even exist) then it's Saturn. Saturn may make you struggle more than the average person and usually it's not even your fault.. it feels more like obstacles thrown to you out of nowhere just to slow you down and drain you (physically/emotionally/mentally) for no reason really.

Have you checked your progressions? Maybe a progressed planet is aspecting one of your natal or current transit planets? Maybe it's just a transit planet entering one of your houses.

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posted October 22, 2020 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Neptune is the planet that is directly linked to disappointment but if disappointment isn't not due to you being infatuated or seeing only the good side of someone or smth (which might not even exist) then it's Saturn. Saturn may make you struggle more than the average person and usually it's not even your fault.. it feels more like obstacles thrown to you out of nowhere just to slow you down and drain you (physically/emotionally/mentally) for no reason really.

Have you checked your progressions? Maybe a progressed planet is aspecting one of your natal or current transit planets? Maybe it's just a transit planet entering one of your houses.


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posted October 22, 2020 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plut0nian you are correct, I think it is saturn, transit moon is applying square.

I am afraid for next week since transit moon is conjunting Neptune - I know they conjunct every month but next week is a big week for me personally

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posted October 22, 2020 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by stone1:
Is transit moon's conjunction to neptune can make people easily feeling disappionted?

Yes, that is a potential of this transit, but it is so transitory that it is not active more than a few hours or a single day at most.

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Any other aspects you can think of?
Tires of this feeling.
Thanks for any inputs!

If this is something ongoing, then it is not being framed by Moon's transits to natal Neptune, but by a longer lasting transit to/from Neptune or another aspect or combination of them.

For example, Pluto's transit conjunct and/or parallel natal Neptune. It's a dual transit in which the conjunction happens, followed years later by the parallel. It's been happening for people born between the mid-1970s and mid-90s. Here is my article about it:
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/plutos-transit-conjunct-parallel-natal-neptune/

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posted October 23, 2020 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon, is parallel aspect happening with sun too? My coming years have transit pluto in 8h squaring natal sun at 11h, quite nervous with this transit

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posted October 23, 2020 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, isn't parallel like trine, more friendly aspect? much easier to handle than conjunction?

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posted October 23, 2020 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AND, people born 1970s has neptune in Sagittarius, conjunction passed long time ago, no?

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posted October 23, 2020 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by stone1:
Kannon, is parallel aspect happening with sun too?

I have no idea since I don't know your birth chart.


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Originally posted by stone1:
Also, isn't parallel like trine, more friendly aspect? much easier to handle than conjunction?

No, the parallel aspect is more like a conjunction, a fusion aspect, but not quite as intense.

And yes, the conjunction of Pluto to natal Neptune for those who were born during the 1970s did pass a long time ago, but they can still experience the transit of Pluto parallel natal Neptune because of how Pluto's orbit is tilted off the plane of the ecliptic.

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posted October 23, 2020 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
[B] more like different universes..

I think this aspect is extremely underrated when it comes to negative synastry aspects.. it's worse than speaking completely different languages or speaking to the wall.



we had incredible communication verbally though and could talk for hours, never running out of things to say with varied conversation and tons of laughs. We clicked mentally, at least when talking in person and I made her laugh more than almost anyone she knew. Via electronics, like via text or social media we often had weird mix-ups and, eventually, a quick argument that led to a sudden falling out. Shame, because in person,we really jived and never had any issues.

Although she made a lot of promises that I was never really sure she had any interest in actually following through on, so I guess that would have eventually been an issue.

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posted October 23, 2020 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@kanon - I meant in general does sun neptune also have parallel relationships? Can Astro gold give info about parallel of transit planets? I couldn't find these info on astro.com or astro-seek.com

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posted October 24, 2020 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@kanon - I meant in general does sun neptune also have parallel relationships? Can Astro gold give info about parallel of transit planets? I couldn't find these info on astro.com or astro-seek.com

Yes, Sun can transit parallel natal Neptune, and Neptune can transit parallel natal Sun. I don't know anything about Astro Gold.

Most astrologers (therefore programmers) do not include declinations (parallel and contra-parallel aspects) as major aspects. So you'll find very little on them on websites or in computer generated reports.

I'd also like to say that disappointment is not the function or purpose of any planet, not even Neptune. By disappointment I think you're describing disillusionment. Only when we've been maintaining illusions for some time ... assumptions, wishful thinking, misconceptions ... do transits by/to Neptune time disappointment. The key is to undo that by taking an honest look at what our misconceptions or illusions were that set us up for disappointment.

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posted October 25, 2020 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stone1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good points with disappointment, a jupiter parallel to neptune explained by astro-seek.com in parallel-anti-parallel section (unfortunately they don't have transit data, only natal) meaning high hopes far away from reality, maybe that is what it is

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posted October 25, 2020 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First, Jupiter conjunct or parallel Neptune is not a bad aspect. It is a fusion of the expansion principle with the mind's eye (imagination) or aspirational beliefs. So yes, it shows a rich imagination and idealism which can include wishful thinking.

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