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viviette
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posted November 01, 2020 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don’t really want to bring this up but learned today that many world famous singers tragically passed age 27.
Interestingly this coincides with the Saturn Return.

Isn’t the theme of that «growing up »?
Perhaps this didn’t exactly suit the identity of these sensitive vulnerable «children» and their reality may have been further affected by access to substances which were rife. Perhaps there was no knowledge at that time that substances affect brain chemistry and can be lethal. In any case, such a loss of lives and talent.

There are too many factors to be able to pin this purely on Saturn. And music is a craft / technicity that is learned through discipline (Saturn) so they were masters in some respects. My worry is that the substances made things seem worse than they were ?

Thoughts ?

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted November 01, 2020 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's also close to the 7 year cycle. 7 year cycles are very important and one of the core, human cycles. In this case, it's the 4th iteration i.e. 4x7=28 which is very close to the 27 age.

And 27 breaks down to a 9 which is a numerological cycle of transformation and end of a cycle/beginning of a new. Pluto is one of the Planets associated with 9 imo (the other is Jupiter). I don't follow mainstream beliefs about this as they don't make any sense. Traditionally, Mars is associated with 9, but that connecting came about before Pluto was discovered. With more and new information, we should update these systems. It's like getting new scientific data or insights into a theory, but not updating it with same, but keeping it same old, same old.

Anyways, if a Soul really goes off it's path of growth, in order to prevent just more difficult karma being built up, the Higher/Expanded self that that Soul is connected to, will take them out of earth life. We typically have a couple to few or so, most probable "death" points time wise. When we incarnate, we have a general plan, but having also freewill we can go off that plan in various ways (not advisable but it happens).

Drinking and drugging are major, major distorters to human consciousness, and if a middle aged to older Soul continues on that path and is not growing sufficiently, there is not much point in being here when one is just creating more difficult karma that will have to be balanced/addressed later.

Fame/celebrity is also not easy on the Soul either, but can be manageable provided drugs and alcohol are not part of the situation.

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viviette
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posted November 02, 2020 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good input
By the way, in terms of these 7 year cycles (just investigated) I found the closing Saturn square age 21 (health issue)
AKA « the opening Uranus square at age 21» and
«the Uranus opposition at age 42 »
—if following the Steiner model—

And that the Uranus opposition coincided with Saturn in «7th!» house, the toughest.

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted November 02, 2020 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, both Saturn and Uranus are very involved in the whole 7 year cycle.

Cayce's guidance indicated an interesting connection between Saturn and Uranus. After a Soul experienced a full and true death in the nonphysical (i.e. the Saturn dimension/experience/consciousness), the Spirit that this Soul was connected to, will create another Soul with some of that prior Soul in it.

This Soul often goes to the dimension that Uranus corresponds to, before incarnating into the Earth.

So there was this sort of death-rebirth cycle between Saturn, Uranus, and the Earth.

The concept and idea of a Soul experiencing real death is not a comfortable one for most. I've been told that it doesn't happen often, but does sometimes happen. It happens when the Soul becomes so hard core psychopathic as to become beyond retrieval. It's like unraveling one's own consciousness yarns.

Love is the cohesiveness, connecting, and intelligent force in creation/consciousness par excellence. If there is no longer any connection to Love, then consciousness entropy/chaos sets in. Goodbye Soul, never to be seen again except in the memories of consciousness and those who knew them.

Otherwise, Souls are eternal and always retain a sense of self awareness and uniqueness which distinguishes themselves from other Soul, even if they become fully conscious to the Oneness of the Whole.

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mee_chryssa
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posted November 03, 2020 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess, here, are not included the suicide cases. A suicide is not a normal death.

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