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Topic: Moon and Mercury conjuncting in cancer in 9th house
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Housen Newflake Posts: 5 From: Registered: Oct 2020
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posted November 03, 2020 09:24 AM
Can someone please help me explain moon conjunct mercury in cancer in the 9th house??? I’ve been searching everywhere for an explanation and I haven’t found a single useful piece of writing...the most I’ve seen is generic moon mercury conjunction traits such as it being similar to moon in Gemini. Now while that’s all well and good, moon in Gemini is ruled by mercury and I definitely believe that the rules would be different for the conjunction in the sign that is ruled by the moon. I haven’t even found a single piece of writing about the conjunction in the 9th house.So please if anyone can offer any sort of detailed insight into the interpretation of this combination and house position, it would be greatly appreciated. (Additional info: the conjunction is a 9 degree orb and mercury is 29 degrees cancer also conjuncting midheaven in Leo by a 2 degree orb, hence it’s the most elevated planet in the chart, I don’t know if this elevation plays a part in Mercury’s role and expression in this conjunction but I just felt like adding it for more context) Yes I’m a Scorpio rising, I’m also a Leo lol
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Travelman Knowflake Posts: 192 From: world Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 03, 2020 10:35 AM
I would think a 9 degree orb is far too wide.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73690 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 03, 2020 10:47 AM
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 1595 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 03, 2020 11:04 AM
It depends which symbol is more dominant and which is more receptive. Moon gets a boost by being in Cancer to begin with, but being the ruler of Cancer, she also becomes the receptive/receiving symbol to see how the Cancer energy is modified. Only knowing these factors alone though (not a good idea to only base on these though, a full chart is always recommended), I would say that when it comes to developing belief systems, you are gut level intuitive (and tends towards the subjective because of strong emotions), but also apply analytical, linear logical intellect/perception as well. A good balance in other words. But watch for a tendency to become overly attached to your beliefs. But it can also relate to University/college. It could speak to a certain inconsistency in some ways (Moon, Cancer, and Mercury are all somewhat to moderately changeable energies). But if you really want something, in a deeper emotional way, you'll work for it. Could symbolize that family and/or especially either mother figure (Moon) or sibling (Mercury) strongly influences you in these 9th House areas of life (belief systems, university/college, etc, etc). There are many possible interpretations. It's best to understand all the symbols yourself and see how it applies to you and your life, because then it's easier to narrow down than for some random stranger online. Because the Moon is one of the lights and is in it's own Sign, and because Mercury tends to be a rather personal and important planet, I would say it's probably just barely within range of conjunction. IP: Logged |
Housen Newflake Posts: 5 From: Registered: Oct 2020
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posted November 03, 2020 09:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: It depends which symbol is more dominant and which is more receptive. Moon gets a boost by being in Cancer to begin with, but being the ruler of Cancer, she also becomes the receptive/receiving symbol to see how the Cancer energy is modified. Only knowing these factors alone though (not a good idea to only base on these though, a full chart is always recommended), I would say that when it comes to developing belief systems, you are gut level intuitive (and tends towards the subjective because of strong emotions), but also apply analytical, linear logical intellect/perception as well. A good balance in other words. But watch for a tendency to become overly attached to your beliefs. But it can also relate to University/college. It could speak to a certain inconsistency in some ways (Moon, Cancer, and Mercury are all somewhat to moderately changeable energies). But if you really want something, in a deeper emotional way, you'll work for it. Could symbolize that family and/or especially either mother figure (Moon) or sibling (Mercury) strongly influences you in these 9th House areas of life (belief systems, university/college, etc, etc). There are many possible interpretations. It's best to understand all the symbols yourself and see how it applies to you and your life, because then it's easier to narrow down than for some random stranger online. Because the Moon is one of the lights and is in it's own Sign, and because Mercury tends to be a rather personal and important planet, I would say it's probably just barely within range of conjunction.
Wow this interpretation was really scarily insightful, I definitely relate especially to the first manifestation you mentioned. I know that the orb is wide, but i certainly feel it (mercury in cancer is on its own moon influenced and moon being in cancer as well, I feel that the 9 degree orb really doesn’t prevent the effects of the conjunction from showing, and I definitely feel a very clear channel between my mind and my emotions) You mentioned that a full chart would be beneficial in providing better analysis, here’s a link to it: https://imgur.com/a/fmVm3RD Thank you soo much for your reply, I’d almost given up on getting a non-generic interpretation
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 1595 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 03, 2020 09:27 PM
I'm a big believer in the saying of, "Give a person a fish, and feed them once, but teach them how to fish and they can feed themselves for the rest of their life". In other words, I prefer to teach general principles, rather than doing in depth analysis. I've done the latter plenty in the past, but besides the above leaning and philosophy, it's also time and energy consuming. I have Virgo North Node in the 1st. Developing discernment, discrimination, and practicing boundaries has been very important to my path of growth. Anyways, if you have questions about generals, I may be able to give you some more pointers, but you're more than capable of interpreting your own chart--after all, I assume you probably know yourself better than I do? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 1595 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 03, 2020 09:38 PM
Interestingly, your Sun is almost exactly conjunct my ASC (within a handful of minutes), and your Moon is almost exactly opposed my Sun (about a degree of separation). You have an interesting chart--a lot of intensity and complexity going on, definitely some inner struggles between conflicting energies. You're almost Uranian like (tendency towards extremes) without being a predominant Uranian. This is because two of your most dominant Planets, are very, very different in nature--Mars and Neptune. You're meant to reconcile the past (Neptune/Uranus/Aquarius) with the present (Mars, Leo, Scorpio) via becoming more and more attuned to Mercury (conjunct MC and closest to MC), and using your mind/intellect to delve into unconscious, hidden areas more and more, and to put words and conscious, structured thoughts and meanings to it all. Sort of a bit of a Carl Jung'ish type path. Btw, when a Planet is conjunct an Angle like Mercury is in your chart, it's really going to be felt more in the proceeding House, rather than the preceding House i.e. it's going to be related more to career, how you serve society, etc than purely to higher education, development of belief systems, etc. In your case specifically, you will feel it in both areas simultaneously strongly because of the wide conjunction to Moon which is more firmly in your 9th House (and because the Moon rules the 9th House cusp). IP: Logged |
Housen Newflake Posts: 5 From: Registered: Oct 2020
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posted November 04, 2020 05:06 PM
Thanks for the reply, I just have one question cus this particularly stood out to me, how did you come to this conclusion?????: “You're almost Uranian like (tendency towards extremes) without being a predominant Uranian. This is because two of your most dominant Planets, are very, very different in nature--Mars and Neptune.”
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 1595 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 04, 2020 06:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Housen: Thanks for the reply, I just have one question cus this particularly stood out to me, how did you come to this conclusion?????: “You're almost Uranian like (tendency towards extremes) without being a predominant Uranian. This is because two of your most dominant Planets, are very, very different in nature--Mars and Neptune.”
Both according to my own observations and to the Edgar Cayce work, Uranus is a symbol that corresponds to the psychic, to the extremes, and the unusual. What Uranus really comes from, on a deeper level, is the Spirit/Higher self level, creating a Soul from two sets of very contrasting/different energies. One rather fast vibratory/Love attuned/spiritualized. The other rather slow vibratory i.e. selfish, fearfilled, and separative in nature i.e. a lack of attunement to Love. For example, Edgar Cayce was a predominant Uranian himself, and if you look at his Life readings for him, on one hand he had some very positive, spiritual, loving lifetimes contributing to his Soul make-up--Asapha, Ra Ta/Ra (from dimension correlated with Sun, Uhjltd (from dimension correlated with Arcturus), Lucius (from dimension correlated with Jupiter). Then on the other hand, he had two John Bainbridges (Saturn aligned) who were selfish, womanizing, conning, hard living ******** , and Xenon (ended up committing suicide due to shame, self disappointment). It was like these extreme, contrasting influences between fast vibratory and slow vibratory warred within him, and he swung back and forth between the extremes. Mars is a slower vibratory symbol that is strong (predominant) in your chart. It is strong because first and foremost, it is in your 1st House and closest Planet to your ASC point, and it's in it's own Sign. Neptune is a fast vibratory symbol that is strong (not quite as much as Mars) that is strong in your chart by being closely conjunct your IC, closely square your ASC degree, and is opposed the ruler of your Venus Sign, Mercury (which likewise is strong/highlighted as well). Not quite as important, since it's so slow moving, but the modern ruler of your ASC, Pluto is sextile Neptune. However, on second glance/look, I'm wondering if perhaps Uranus itself might be stronger than even Neptune? For one, it's in it's own Sign, it's also Angular, it's conjunct the South Node, it's opposed your Sun, it's square the faster moving ruler of your ASC aka your Chart ruler--Mars. In any case, both Neptune and Uranus are also rather highlighted in your chart. Hence, there is a tendency to extremes. Scorpio is also a Sign that relates to extremes as well, though more specifically on an emotional level. This is an important lifetime for you. All lifetimes are important and part of a larger growth process, but occasionally there comes these "make it or break" it lifetimes/cycles. This is one of those for you (lol no pressure). Your Higher self wants you to choose the positive, Love attuned, and spiritual as much as possible, while also being conscious of the shadow and dark side of life and self also. Intense friqqin life. Would be curious to hear a bit about you and your life. But with your ASC in Scorpio, the faster moving ruler of the Chart also in Scorpio, and strong Cancer, you probably tend to the hidden and private despite the Leo and Aquarius. IP: Logged |
Housen Newflake Posts: 5 From: Registered: Oct 2020
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posted November 05, 2020 05:15 PM
Wow there’s so much to unpack here that I don’t even know where to start, I have so many follow up comments/questions and have been trying to (and unable to) summarize them all into a sort of “umbrella reply”. Well I guess it makes sense to begin by replying to your request. As you can probably imagine and tell from my chart, my life has been chock full of intense and high energy moments that if I were to begin narrating them, I would probably reach the character limit. I guess it would be easier to just say a thing or two (out of a possible million) about myself. First and foremost I definitely relate to what you mentioned about this being an important lifetime, I even read somewhere that that’s what a direct true node represents and I have a direct true node. That’s one of the reasons I got interested in astrology; to know how best I can work with myself in order to achieve my goals (and also to know which said goals to actually pursue lol). What else? There certainly a very good dose of inner tension (another reason I got into astrology) that seem to be “coming from every direction” and can at times be very overwhelming, especially when emotions are involved. As a Scorpio rising, it would be a treasonable offense and a huge disservice to my kind if I were not secretive lol. I love my music (emphasis on the “my”) and I like “mercurial” things and people. I’m actually curious about my 2 grand squares and how they might manifest themselves given the planets and angles involved cus I feel like a lot of my inner tension comes down to either or both of them and that it would be a huge step in the right direction if I can know how to mediate and control them and to know which planets and aspects of life (houses) to focus on to that effect Thanks so much once again for taking time out to help an internet stranger IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 1595 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 05, 2020 07:20 PM
It's taking place on the cross of Angles i.e. the self/body and it's temperament/potentially strongest Planetary energies (ASC/1st House), home, family, childhood conditioning, deeper psychological roots, further past--can relate to other lives as well (IC/4th House), closer and/or more affecting relationships (DESC/7th House), and career, how we serve the larger society around us, how the public perceives and responds to us (MC/10th House. Then break down the energies involved. Mars--that of raw, animal energy and side of us, the side that takes what it wants, is aggressive, has a temper, is sexual in a lust and hormonal way purely, is courageous, is active; a doer, gets shite done. Neptune, that of the mystic, deep spiritual and psychic sensitivity, the ocean and large bodies of water, music, film, dance, arts on higher, more sublime and creative levels, but also deception, illusion, and wanting to escape the harsh reality of material life. Uranus that of the extremes, the psychic, and unusual. Urge to individuate, while being concerned with the collective. Jupiter that of expansion, the higher mind, universal consciousness, the ennobling force Saturn, that of constriction, lessons, difficult karma, the part of our Expanded self that is trying to get us to grow up and mature more often through sudden, difficult, major changes, testing, challenge. Temptations to a lower and more materially focused way of life such as being too concerned with accumulating wealth, status, and/or power. Mercury that of mind, intellect, reasoning, communication--the bridge between understanding consciously the meaning of all the other Symbols. Sun, our deeper character--the us when we are alone and nobody is watching or interacting. Also urge to individuate, but in a self realized way. Then, most of these take place in the Cross of Fixed Signs. The Signs of conservation of power. They take the initial creative spark of the Cardinal Signs, steady the flame and use it to build something useful. These are the Organizing Signs. Intensity, depth and focus of will, but also great tendency towards over stubbornness and being resistant to change. Squares and oppositions in Fixed Signs represent karmic lessons and tendencies that have been repeating and have become a HABIT, hence they are rather difficult to change. As earlier hinted, developing the intellect and conscious understanding of the shadow in life, others, and self is going to be key to channeling this great tension, passion, intensity, strong will into constructive ends. But, it should also be noted that a very combo, strong Jupitarian-Venusian-Saturnian partner or close friend might be a great help to you in some of this as well. This person or persons can and will have a balancing and soothing affect on you, because they are grounded, balanced, harmonious within themselves. Don't know if you have met this person yet or not. But again, look for someone with very strong, predominant Jupiter (very closely conjunct your DESC) and very strong Venus (Taurus Desc with ruler of same, Venus trine the DESC/Jupiter conjunction), with some definite contributing Saturn-either Saturn itself, or preferably strong Capricorn (Capricorn is usually much faster vibratory than Planetary Saturn). I know I used the term of stranger earlier myself, but to someone with such a strong Jupiter and ruler of the Moon, Venus in Aquarius in the 7th, there really are no strangers to this strange self. But rather, this self loves and cares about everyone, for self came in knowing the Oneness of the Whole pretty strongly and consciously. I call all friends. And beyond that, few people do we meet/encounter by accident or random chance, and often there are deeper connections and pre-experience with that we may not be conscious of. In any case, you're welcome. Edited to fix spelling mistakes
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