posted November 05, 2020 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
ex fiancee had venus conjunct pluto in scorpio and scorpio mercury, complete shitshow 😁 been with other scorpio placements too and just going to not do that ever again

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posted November 05, 2020 09:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Ahh really?! I thought personal planets in Scorpio & Pluto-conjunctions, inclined one to be very devoted & faithful in a relationship; especially Scorpio Moon. What were the downsides?

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the downsides were revenge, crazy games, constantly "testing" **** , jealousy over weird dumb **** , holding grudges etc and so on

it's not something i like

the scorpio mars i was with cheated on her fiance with me so... 🤷‍♀️ it isn't necessarily a faithful placement, they expect faithfulness but giving it doesnt necessarily happen

it's a lot of ******** i dont like to deal with basically

posted November 05, 2020 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Ahh really?! I thought personal planets in Scorpio & Pluto-conjunctions, inclined one to be very devoted & faithful in a relationship; especially Scorpio Moon. What were the downsides?

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I have a feeling some of the signs descriptions were written by Scorpio. They do games and tests because they’re so deep and devoted. However,Libras and Gemini do it because they’re promiscuous players.

posted November 05, 2020 01:55 PM            

But it's by going down into the depths and into the muck, that eventually the rebirth and spiritual transformation can happen, and perhaps be catalyzed to begin with.

I.e. much of Pluto is about conscious shadow integration.

When we become more fully conscious to and accepting of our own shadow, we stop attracting/being attracted to it so much in others and in life.

And if we do attract or interact with such dynamics in the future, we do so from a centered, Love attuned place where we are acting as retrievers to help others become more consciously aware of their shadow and things to work on. Not as a victim. (this doesn't mean we won't feel any emotional pain if mistreated, but we place the situation in a different context--one from a higher perspective).

posted November 05, 2020 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Pluto is a hard energy to channel in a more purely constructive way.

But it's by going down into the depths and into the muck, that eventually the rebirth and spiritual transformation can happen, and perhaps be catalyzed to begin with.

I.e. much of Pluto is about conscious shadow integration.

When we become more fully conscious to and accepting of our own shadow, we stop attracting/being attracted to it so much in others and in life.

And if we do attract or interact with such dynamics in the future, we do so from a centered, Love attuned place where we are acting as retrievers to help others become more consciously aware of their shadow and things to work on. Not as a victim. (this doesn't mean we won't feel any emotional pain if mistreated, but we place the situation in a different context--one from a higher perspective).

Thus does Pluto potentially span from the lowest to the highest metaphorically speaking.

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pluto has its upsides yeah, scorpio too

i spent a good chunk of my life with heavily scorpio people, and even still a lot of people i know and am close to have pluto in their charts to a high degree but i don't like when there's stuff in scorpio + pluto tension combined because holy **** 🤣

it's good to an extent but god damn it can easily be too much to be close to when the potential for growth isnt utilized or youre on its path before it is

it's full of transformative experiences and those are valuable but 🤷‍♀️

i'd rather chew my legs to get away from that ****

loyalty can just be who a person returns to is what i think people forget when they think about scorpio faithfulness

the "how much do you love me?" games can be intense

it's like ok for a bit but the eternity they expect out of you 🤣 nope never again

posted November 05, 2020 05:10 PM            

I feel yah. Felt that with a person who has Sun in 8th and Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto conjunct IC. And apparently I was deemed not strong nor loyal enough, cause after a little while, wasn't interested in playing any of those games.

Talk about someone who desperately needs to become more conscious of their shadow.