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Topic: If Sun conjuncts Jupiter at 9 degrees, is my Jupiter combust?
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AQUACap88 Knowflake Posts: 306 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2020
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posted November 04, 2020 11:55 AM
I read this somewhere: Moon becomes combust when it comes within 12 degrees on either side of the Sun. Mercury becomes combust when it comes within 14 degrees on either side of the Sun provided Mercury is in forward Motion. When Mercury is in retrograde motion, the degree of closeness for combustion of Mercury becomes 12 degrees. Venus becomes combust when it comes within 10 degrees on either side of the Sun provided Venus is in forward motion. When Venus is in retrograde motion, the degree of closeness for combustion of Venus becomes 8 degrees. Mars becomes combust when it comes within 17 degrees on either side of the Sun. Jupiter becomes combust when it comes within 11 degrees on either side of the Sun. Saturn becomes combust when it comes within 15 degrees on either side of the Sun. ☹️☹️☹️ My Sun conjuncts Jupiter in Aquarius if it matters. (I heard Sun in Aquarius makes it weak?) IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2372 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 04, 2020 12:47 PM
There are different theories on this. Just as we disagree amongst ourselves in astrology, astrologers of antiquity also had disagreements and different perceptions. There is something that trumps combustion btw, if the Sun is especially the Chart ruler, and to a lesser extent the ruler of the Sun or Moon, then the Sun becomes a "receptive/receiving" symbol for other Planets. Hence those Planets are not weakened, but are rather strongly shading in into the Rising, Sun, and/or Moon energies. For example, I have Leo Rising with my Sun in Capricorn widely conjunct Cap Mercury (7.5 degree separation applying). I do not have a weakened Mercury by any stretch of the term. My IQ is borderline genius (157 when tested at age 9 within the general optimal age range for such testing), I was so advanced in elementary (in the state of MA) that I started to get offers for gifted schools and programs and started to receive future college recruitment from Tufts University. (Unfortunately, my mom elected to not put me in a gifted program, and then because of that and some intense outer difficulties it all went downhill academic wise from there, became suicidally depressed for a number of years, etc. The above unusual intellect also relates to 1st House Virgo Jupiter trine Cap Mercury with .5 degree separation--a very expanded, intuitive mind that has deep thirst for knowledge, but also grounded in logic, reasoning, critical thought, good concentration, etc The Sun Mercury conjunction is also widely sextile Angular Uranus). I eventually went from being very science focused to very spiritually focused, and with that a lack of material ambition and focus, so haven't done much with it as far as the world judges/counts same. (Awhile back I was working on development of battery super capacitor hybrids using high percentage/purity, graphitized nanocellulose crystals and some other semi-novel material applications, but energy, time, motivation, and above all money fell by the wayside. Said battery-super capacitor would have been mostly safe and biodegradable, and in encased in a flax linen reinforced with bio plastic composite structure. Meh, shite's about to hit the fan in a couple to few years or so anyways). IP: Logged |
MMarie Knowflake Posts: 1226 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted November 04, 2020 02:58 PM
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MMarie Knowflake Posts: 1226 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted November 04, 2020 02:59 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MMarie: [b]There is something that trumps combustion btw, if the Sun is especially the Chart ruler, and to a lesser extent the ruler of the Sun or Moon, then the Sun becomes a "receptive/receiving" symbol for other Planets. Hence those Planets are not weakened, but are rather strongly shading in into the Rising, Sun, and/or Moon energies. ———— Hi Galactic, this is interesting what you’ve said and I’ve always wondered about that. Combustion in general but when the sun is the chart ruler. I have rising and sun/moon conjunction in Leo - sun ahead of moon by 2 degrees. Sun is the ruler of 4 planets in my chart, so would this give a shading of moon/ Cancer qualities to all of the Leo placements or just sun? And moon is 12th house ruler so thinking there might even be some Neptune like qualities in there? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2372 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 04, 2020 03:40 PM
Makes sense to me Mmarie. Yes, Moon would be shading into all the Leo, and then also the Sun would likely be amplified/highlighted as well. Sun and Leo are different energies though they have a loose connection via rulership. Sun is potentially a much faster vibratory and more expanded energy than Leo. I think a lot in color terms when it comes to this stuff, and Sun in it's true form is like golden light, and Leo is like high orange (yellow'y orange). But Moon would counterbalance that some, as she is a 2nd Center energy and symbol (her energy most often corresponds to human auras as coral pink, greys, and sometimes rather light/pale greens). IP: Logged |
MMarie Knowflake Posts: 1226 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted November 04, 2020 04:13 PM
Thanks Galactic! And very interesting about thinking in terms of color. I’m a visual person/ learner so that makes sense to me. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2372 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 05, 2020 12:19 AM
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AQUACap88 Knowflake Posts: 306 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2020
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posted November 05, 2020 08:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: There are different theories on this. Just as we disagree amongst ourselves in astrology, astrologers of antiquity also had disagreements and different perceptions. There is something that trumps combustion btw, if the Sun is especially the Chart ruler, and to a lesser extent the ruler of the Sun or Moon, then the Sun becomes a "receptive/receiving" symbol for other Planets. Hence those Planets are not weakened, but are rather strongly shading in into the Rising, Sun, and/or Moon energies. For example, I have Leo Rising with my Sun in Capricorn widely conjunct Cap Mercury (7.5 degree separation applying). I do not have a weakened Mercury by any stretch of the term. My IQ is borderline genius (157 when tested at age 9 within the general optimal age range for such testing), I was so advanced in elementary (in the state of MA) that I started to get offers for gifted schools and programs and started to receive future college recruitment from Tufts University. (Unfortunately, my mom elected to not put me in a gifted program, and then because of that and some intense outer difficulties it all went downhill academic wise from there, became suicidally depressed for a number of years, etc. The above unusual intellect also relates to 1st House Virgo Jupiter trine Cap Mercury with .5 degree separation--a very expanded, intuitive mind that has deep thirst for knowledge, but also grounded in logic, reasoning, critical thought, good concentration, etc The Sun Mercury conjunction is also widely sextile Angular Uranus). I eventually went from being very science focused to very spiritually focused, and with that a lack of material ambition and focus, so haven't done much with it as far as the world judges/counts same. (Awhile back I was working on development of battery super capacitor hybrids using high percentage/purity, graphitized nanocellulose crystals and some other semi-novel material applications, but energy, time, motivation, and above all money fell by the wayside. Said battery-super capacitor would have been mostly safe and biodegradable, and in encased in a flax linen reinforced with bio plastic composite structure. Meh, shite's about to hit the fan in a couple to few years or so anyways).
Interesting ideas. What if Jupiter is the chart ruler? My ascendant is Pisces (ruled by Neptune and Jupiter), Jupiter and Sun conjuncts in my 12th house. Additionally, Pluto in 9th house (ruled by Jupiter) conjuncts my MC exact. Does all of these make my Jupiter stronger to avoid the combustion? Your story makes me sad, I was in gifted as well however my mercury is unaspected in capricorn *cries* I don't know why I'm intelligent but I have always liked maths and science as well. Even astrology is interesting. I'm from finance, and there's a type of technical analysis technique called Gann Angles created by a mathematician/trader in the past who believed that the stock markets can be predicted from the stars.
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GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2372 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 05, 2020 01:37 PM
That's an good question AQUACap88. It seems possible that it could work in reverse some as well. However, would say that it's likely that in your case, since Jupiter is the faster moving Chart ruler (I focus more on the faster moving rulers because they are more personal to the individual), that the Sun becomes rather highlighted in your chart. Because of mainstream, pop astrology, there are a lot of misconceptions out there floating around. Some comes from the over conflation of Signs with their associated rulers, almost as if they become the same thing but with different names. No, they are different symbols, with different names, because there are definite differences. As I pointed out to MMarie earlier, one of the better examples of this is the case of Leo and the Sun. Boy, people now put the Sun in such a narrow little box because of Leo. People interpret Sun as being like Leo. There are cases where this does and can happen, but if we really ponder and intuit the deeper meaning of the Sun, then we begin to see that it's a very transcendent, very fast vibratory, and expanded symbol. And individuals like yourself, that have it more highlighted (being conjunct the Chart ruler), can better tune into that level of the Sun than most others. The Sun is the very center of our system. It's the "head honcho". It's a symbolic, physicalized, individualized form or version of the Creative God force itself--that which gives Light and warmth to all. Edgar Cayce's guidance referred to the Sun and the consciousness level that it corresponds to, as the "infinity forces" of our little system. We cannot even begin to wrap our minds around the power and exalted nature of the Sun. At it's very Core, the Sun=pure Love, or as close to it as any symbol in our system can get. And to get to the Sun, we first must have mastered either Jupiter, Neptune, and/or Pisces (the purple and violet spectrum). In your case, part of your expanded perception actually relates to your attunement to the Sun. Attunement to Love has an expanding, clarifying, balancing effect on perception, for perception follows beingness. People that have a strong Sun but who don't have a strong attunement to either Jupiter, Neptune, and/or Pisces, often DO channel/express it in it's lower octave, more Leo like version. The real Sun is not far from the White/clear Light (Source and Oneness Consciousness), though more expressed/attuned to Golden Light. Leo attunement is more of a high orange (yellowey orange) i.e. a much slower vibratory, lower octave, stepped down version. As to self, no need to feel sadness. I suspect that things have mostly worked out according to a plan. Self did not come here for wealth, status, nor to overly focus on the material world. These are what the ego/lower nature crave, but not the Expanded self. And that's another meaning of the Sun--it symbolizes the Expanded/Higher/Spirit self part of us (wherein we are Souls that come from and are connected to that level of self). Years ago, when I was going through some intense growth and spiritual awakening, I had this dream: I was outside, sitting on the ground meditating while looking at the Sun with my eyes open. As I went deeper within in the meditation, conversely the more I started to merge with the Sun. At first it was frightening because I felt self expanding so much and so fast that I thought there might be a possibility that "I" would be destroyed. But something within me told me to let go of the fear and to just let the process happen. I did that, and continued to expand, but noticed that I was still me, but just that I was a much more pure, aware, and expanded version of myself (as compared to before). And beyond that awareness, it also felt really good! It was a joyous state. This dream symbolized that the little self, the conscious mind, the personality self we call "Justin", was starting to become aware of and starting to "channel" in a sense and merge with his Expanded/Higher self (symbolized by the Sun), and more that he does so, the more authentically he becomes his true self. So I wouldn't worry about Jupiter potentially being weak. In a deeper spiritual sense, it may indeed be that Jupiter is being over shadowed by the Sun in a sense, but that is a very positive thing in your case. Jupiter and it's universality, it's nobleness, it's spiritual expansion is a step ladder to the Sun. The purple (Jupiter) and violet (Pisces), is what comes right before the Golden Light (Sun) vibrationally and aura wise. This is the true initiation. It's when that little ole Pituitary gland in our body starts to get stimulated in a spiritualized way and not just a physical, body kind of way. But even then, it's only the earnest beginning of the process to the pure White/Clear Light of fully conscious Source and Oneness Consciousness/attunement. Self must eventually be purged in the Fires hotter than the Sun to get to that point. The path is open to All, and yet so few, human wise, choose to walk that straight and narrow path up the mountain. (Sheesh, didn't originally mean to give such a discourse on this, but that is what wanted to flow through, so "whatevs"). P.S., yes, there are cycles in all human activities, and yes, these can be related to astrological cycles as well. When we live in a reality of Oneness/complete interconnection, is there any wonder about this? IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 1926 From: Arabia Desert Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 05, 2020 02:46 PM
Sun and Jupiter are like close friends (they like each other) and it is one of the most favorable placements.. part of it because I have it IP: Logged |
Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 425 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted November 05, 2020 05:55 PM
Okay, this. I had a version of this quite recently, I think— was having a Really Bad Day, I think I said out loud “I don’t know what to do with this,” and then all of a sudden an airplane flew overhead and the sound of its engine hit me way stronger than it should have— like this deep rumbling in my chest — and then as the plane flew away it was like it just... took my burdens with it. My ears were ringing afterward, and I got inspired to write... a couple of poems, and a new insight on an old set of dreams. The Sabian symbol for my Sun is an airplane overhead.IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2372 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 05, 2020 06:40 PM
Yeah, tuning into your Expanded/Spirit self, which is beyond all these material cares, fears, and worries, and yet, experiences them through us. IP: Logged |
Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 425 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted November 05, 2020 09:50 PM
Well said.🌻IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 14260 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted January 30, 2021 11:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries Eagle: Sun and Jupiter are like close friends (they like each other) and it is one of the most favorable placements.. part of it because I have it *grin*
To a Very Beautiful Soul On Sunday, January 31, 2021 JUPITER 10+ conjuncts your SUN Aqua 11+
Happy Birthday, AQUAcap88! (Jan 31)
"Sun conjunct Jupiter" is said to be the "Luckiest Day of The Year" You have it NATALLY, and this year also on your Solar Return. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 137927 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2021 06:19 PM
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