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Asjah
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posted November 30, 2020 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question, if I have a sun sextile pluto and my sun is also conjunct mars would the pluto contact affect my mars similar to if my mars had a pluto contact?

I have a similar issue when it comes to my moon as well conjunct my venus which is square my pluto, would that make it so my moon is affected by pluto as well since it aspects venus? Would it be fair to say I may be similar to a Scorpio moon, or at least a moon in direct aspect to pluto?

I'm just curious as I have terrible trust issues and I do relate to a lot of things I read about Scorpio but I only have one 8th house placement which is my pluto, but it aspects a good amount of my chart.

I'm going to attempt to post my chart, apologies if it doesn't work.

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Graham
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posted November 30, 2020 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Are those trust issues the reason why you use photobucket, rather than (say) http://imgbb.com ?

For now, though ... whilst you are sorting out the issue with posting your chart ... just tell us the sign, house and degree locations of your natal Sun, Mars, Pluto, Moon and Venus.

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Asjah
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posted November 30, 2020 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

Are those trust issues the reason why you use photobucket, rather than (say) http://imgbb.com ?

For now, though ... whilst you are sorting out the issue with posting your chart ... just tell us the sign, house and degree locations of your natal Sun, Mars, Pluto, Moon and Venus.


Ah no, I just read the instructions on this site on how to post a image and that's what it told me to do. Oops. Sorry for the trouble.

Sun in Aquarius in 11th house 251'
Moon in Pisces in 12th house 1516'
Venus in Pisces in 12th house 1013'
Mars in Aquarius in 12th house 1154'
Pluto in Sagittarius in 8th house 253'

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Graham
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posted December 01, 2020 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Asjah:
Ah no, I just read the instructions on this site on how to post a image and that's what it told me to do. Oops. Sorry for the trouble.

Sun in Aquarius in 11th house 251'
Moon in Pisces in 12th house 1516'
Venus in Pisces in 12th house 1013'
Mars in Aquarius in 12th house 1154'
Pluto in Sagittarius in 8th house 253'


There are now three parts to the question in your opening post, Asjah :-

1. When planet A is sextile planet B and conjunct planet C, how would that manifest if planet C is not also sextile planet B?

2. Is MY natal Mars within orb of a conjunction with natal Sun?

3.Is MY natal Venus within orb of a square with natal Pluto ... and (if so) how would that affect my natal Moon-Venus conjunction?

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Asjah
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posted December 01, 2020 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
There are now three parts to the question in your opening post, Asjah :-

1. When planet A is sextile planet B [b]and conjunct planet C, how would that manifest if planet C is not also sextile planet B?

2. Is MY natal Mars within orb of a conjunction with natal Sun?

3.Is MY natal Venus within orb of a square with natal Pluto ... and (if so) how would that affect my natal Moon-Venus conjunction?

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Well yes you are correct. My curiosity is triggered now, why did you re-write my question? I'm not angry or anything, just taken off guard. Did I write it a weird way?

I am aware that most people consider aspects above 5 to be irrelevant, I'm just going off what my Natal chart says. Obviously since I'm having issues posting it, there is an issue there, let's see if this works...

https://ibb.co/9n2PQZD

I'm also just curious even if the belief is that the larger aspects don't count, how would they affect those planets with those aspects I was asking about if they were under 5?

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posted December 01, 2020 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Asjah, just a wee tip about posting links. If you take the 's' out of the 'https', you will get a clickable link.

For future, if you wish to put the chart in the thread as opposed to a link, Imgur will give you a link for posting pictures.

So, you go here: http://imgur.com/
Create an account
Upload your chart (many members here cast their chart from astro.com, but it's completely up to you)
If you click on your upload, Imgur gives you several link types. To post a picture into a thread here you copy the 'BBCode' link and paste it into your thread here (remembering to remove the 's' from the 'https').

Hope this helps

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Asjah
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posted December 01, 2020 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Hi Asjah, just a wee tip about posting links. If you take the 's' out of the 'https', you will get a clickable link.

For future, if you wish to put the chart in the thread as opposed to a link, Imgur will give you a link for posting pictures.

So, you go here: http://imgur.com/
Create an account
Upload your chart (many members here cast their chart from astro.com, but it's completely up to you)
If you click on your upload, Imgur gives you several link types. To post a picture into a thread here you copy the 'BBCode' link and paste it into your thread here (remembering to remove the 's' from the 'https').

Hope this helps


Thank you so much!!!!
http://ibb.co/9n2PQZD

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Graham
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posted December 01, 2020 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Asjah:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Graham:
[b] There are now three parts to the question in your opening post, Asjah :-

1. When planet A is sextile planet B [b]and conjunct planet C, how would that manifest if planet C is not also sextile planet B?

2. Is MY natal Mars within orb of a conjunction with natal Sun?

3.Is MY natal Venus within orb of a square with natal Pluto ... and (if so) how would that affect my natal Moon-Venus conjunction?

[/B]



Well yes you are correct. My curiosity is triggered now, why did you re-write my question? I'm not angry or anything, just taken off guard. Did I write it a weird way?

I am aware that most people consider aspects above 5 to be irrelevant, I'm just going off what my Natal chart says. Obviously since I'm having issues posting it, there is an issue there, let's see if this works...

https://ibb.co/9n2PQZD

I'm also just curious even if the belief is that the larger aspects don't count, how would they affect those planets with those aspects I was asking about if they were under 5?

[/B][/QUOTE]

I rewrote it only so that my answer could be given in general terms (as requested by you), and then expanded to relate to your placements specifically (as preferred by me). ... However, I am in the UK and it takes some time/hours for this USA site to show my posts on my computer. ... So, I had not completed my previous post (with an answer to your question) by the time you were able to read it. ... And now, as is often the case when these delays occur, my focus needs to be upon matters relating to my everyday life in the UK.

Apologies for the confusion ... and I will respond again here as soon as I am able to do so.

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Graham
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posted December 01, 2020 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Graham :-

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There are now three parts to the question in your opening post, Asjah :-

1. When planet A is sextile planet B and conjunct planet C, how would that manifest if planet C is not also sextile planet B?

2. Is MY natal Mars within orb of a conjunction with natal Sun?

3.Is MY natal Venus within orb of a square with natal Pluto ... and (if so) how would that affect my natal Moon-Venus conjunction?


1. When planet A is sextile planet B and conjunct planet C, how would that manifest if planet C is not also sextile planet B?

Planet A would be modified by planet C, and that modified planetary influence (A/C midpoint interpretation) would be sextile planet B. ... For example, Sun in Aquarius/11th = expression of humanitarian views in groups/social situations : Mars in Aquarius/12th = lack of assertiveness is a hidden psychological enemy : Sun/Mars = lack of assertiveness when expressing humanitarian views in groups/social situations : Pluto in Sagittarius/8th = transformation via high-mindedness of others : Sun/Mars sextile Pluto = encouraged by others to assertively express humanitarian views in groups/social situations.

2. Is MY natal Mars within orb of a conjunction with natal Sun?
Most astrologers use a maximum orb of 8 degrees for all ptolemaic aspects, but some increase this to 10 degrees for contacts involving the Sun or/and Moon - and others use methods (such as Harmonics) that vary the maximum orb size, whilst traditional astrologers consider orbs to be measured in zodiac signs rather than degrees.

Hence, some astrologers will consider your natal Sun-Mars to be conjunct whilst others will not. ... In practice though, if the chart owner can feel the influence in his/her life, it is "within orb" - and, if he/she cannot feel the influence, it is "outside the maximum allowable orb". ... Thus, only you can know for sure if your Sun-Mars is a valid conjunction.

3. Is MY natal Venus within orb of a square with natal Pluto ... and (if so) how would that affect my natal Moon-Venus conjunction?
In the light of my comments on 1 and 2 above, how would you now answer this question?

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posted December 01, 2020 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really understand the question but you can look at it this way. Pluto sextile the Sun is kind of like a Scorpio Sun. So, you will have the good traits of a Scorpio Sun, such as super good perception. With a hard aspect, such as a square,you will struggle more with the bad traits of Scorpio like jealousy and the dark parts of Scorpio.

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posted December 01, 2020 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in vedic the degrees don't matter and planets in opposing houses can affect each other ones in the same house are read as conjunct etc

so that being said yes there will be some kind of effect but from what i've noticed reading both it's always more pronounced based on degree

so you might find some bits relatable and feel them but what you'll really feel is the conjunction and the square more on their own

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posted December 01, 2020 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Asjah:
Question, if I have a sun sextile pluto and my sun is also conjunct mars would the pluto contact affect my mars similar to if my mars had a pluto contact?

No.

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I have a similar issue when it comes to my moon as well conjunct my venus which is square my pluto, would that make it so my moon is affected by pluto as well since it aspects venus?

No

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Would it be fair to say I may be similar to a Scorpio moon, or at least a moon in direct aspect to pluto?

No.

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I'm just curious as I have terrible trust issues and I do relate to a lot of things I read about Scorpio but I only have one 8th house placement which is my pluto, but it aspects a good amount of my chart.

That's most likely because of your Moon in water sign Pisces conjunct Saturn also in that sign. That indicates control issues and inhibitions to work out in your emotional nature similarly to many people with Moon in Scorpio.

If the timing of this chart is basically correct, then I don't consider Venus to be square Pluto because the orb is beyond 7.5 and separating. While luminaries may get more than that, not Venus or Pluto.

So Sun is only widely conjunct Mars at 9.1 apart with Sun applying into the aspect.

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posted December 01, 2020 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have sun,moon,mercury all conjunct all 3 sextile Uranus. If your conjunctions are tight , both would sextile Pluto. But sextile is an easy flow of energy. Your more likely to feel any squares or oppositions . These keep us interesting 😬

I have Venus square Pluto and that energy is way more prominent for me but its also part of a t square . Sooooo

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posted December 02, 2020 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't really understand the question but you can look at it this way. Pluto sextile the Sun is kind of like a Scorpio Sun. So, you will have the good traits of a Scorpio Sun, such as super good perception. With a hard aspect, such as a square,you will struggle more with the bad traits of Scorpio like jealousy and the dark parts of Scorpio.


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posted December 02, 2020 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
in vedic the degrees don't matter and planets in opposing houses can affect each other ones in the same house are read as conjunct etc

so that being said yes there will be some kind of effect but from what i've noticed reading both it's always more pronounced based on degree

so you might find some bits relatable and feel them but what you'll really feel is the conjunction and the square more on their own


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posted December 02, 2020 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
That's most likely because of your Moon in water sign Pisces conjunct Saturn also in that sign. That indicates control issues and inhibitions to work out in your emotional nature similarly to many people with Moon in Scorpio.

If the timing of this chart is basically correct, then I don't consider Venus to be square Pluto because the orb is beyond 7.5 and separating. While luminaries may get more than that, not Venus or Pluto.

So Sun is only widely conjunct Mars at 9.1 apart with Sun applying into the aspect.


Hmm I definitely have control issues, more so on my end because I don't like showing much emotion or putting much trust in what people say in additionto keeping people at arms length emotionally. It would make sense if Saturn was one of the big causes of it.

Since my Saturn is conjunct my Ascendant would that mean people can see that I do have trust issues, especially because my moon is conjunct my ascendant as well?

Thank you for replying!

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posted December 02, 2020 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I have sun,moon,mercury all conjunct all 3 sextile Uranus. If your conjunctions are tight , both would sextile Pluto. But sextile is an easy flow of energy. Your more likely to feel any squares or oppositions . These keep us interesting 😬

I have Venus square Pluto and that energy is way more prominent for me but its also part of a t square . Sooooo


Yeah I didn't notice many oppositions on my end, I think I really do sense the couple squares I have though even if their aspects are far apart. But Saturn sure does love me lol makes me earn what I want. But I enjoy the challenge even if I have no choice, which is fine.

How does the sun, moon, mercury affect you? I'm curious, I have some conjunct planets, but I've met a couple sun and moon conjunct people who are very passionate.

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posted December 02, 2020 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Asjah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
[b]I rewrote it only so that my answer could be given in general terms (as requested by you), and then expanded to relate to your placements specifically (as preferred by me). ... However, I am in the UK and it takes some time/hours for this USA site to show my posts on my computer. ... So, I had not completed my previous post (with an answer to your question) by the time you were able to read it. ... And now, as is often the case when these delays occur, my focus needs to be upon matters relating to my everyday life in the UK.

Apologies for the confusion ... and I will respond again here as soon as I am able to do so. [/B]


Ah I see, like I said I was just curious, I do have some issues with communication in general so I was hoping I hadn't done something on my end. Thank you for replying.

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posted December 02, 2020 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Asjah:
Hmm I definitely have control issues, more so on my end because I don't like showing much emotion or putting much trust in what people say in additionto keeping people at arms length emotionally. It would make sense if Saturn was one of the big causes of it.

Since my Saturn is conjunct my Ascendant would that mean people can see that I do have trust issues, especially because my moon is conjunct my ascendant as well?

Thank you for replying!


I know someone with Pisces DESC and with Pisces Venus conjunct Pisces Saturn in the 7th, and Neptune in Capricorn in the 5th--she is very much similar, especially in love. Major walls around her heart. Major self sensitivity, basically a lot of fear and defenses.

Saturn very much often symbolizes deep, semi conscious fear. Pluto on the other hand also often symbolizes fear, but even deeper, more pathological, and less conscious fear.

None of the Planets or Signs "cause" anything. You chose to be born at the time you were, to symbolically match up/correlate to your inner self/consciousness to the various different outer positions.

The chart being like a cosmic clock and road map of indications, rather than a direct cause. This reflecting and mirroring can happen, because the true reality is one of complete Oneness/interconnection beneath all the seeming separation that we perceive and so focus on as physically incarnated humans.

But things like Quantum entanglement and Bell's theorem relate to the true reality, the one of complete interconnection/Oneness.

In other words, your past use of your free/spiritual will, led to developing your consciousness in certain ways, and you chose to be born at a time when the outer conditions and symbols would and could reflect that inner state as much as possible.

The good news is that you can use that same free/spiritual will to change those patterns and you can grow. We grow most by positive, selfless service to others and by attuning to and choosing Universal Love. That is the highest consciousness and reality there is.

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posted December 03, 2020 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Asjah:
Yeah I didn't notice many oppositions on my end, I think I really do sense the couple squares I have though even if their aspects are far apart. But Saturn sure does love me lol makes me earn what I want. But I enjoy the challenge even if I have no choice, which is fine.

How does the sun, moon, mercury affect you? I'm curious, I have some conjunct planets, but I've met a couple sun and moon conjunct people who are very passionate.



I dont really know how the conjunction effects me. Its all just connected and in line with each other.

Put I think Im mentally stronger than others. Things just easily roll off of me. I dont get depressed or worry to much. I just know things just someone how will just work out . Thats about the only way I can think of to explain it. Im really calm in stressful or traumatic experiences. Ive had my share . Trust me. In no way have I had an easy life. But I dont let things get me down . I just keep going forward with hope I guess

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