posted December 17, 2020 06:40 PM            

I will leave the link below for who might want to watch the video.

posted December 18, 2020 01:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Vedic does not consider Nodes as malefic. NN (or Rahu) in Vedic shows an area of life we’re insatiable, hungry towards. We’re constantly chasing our NN but not feel satisfied with what we get becos it’s not good enough. People with Rahu in 7H puts a lot of emphasis on their partner but will often feel dissatisfied with their partner and therefore can go through relationship ups and downs. Some people with this placement remain single for a long time.

SN (Ketu) is what we’re familiar with but we tend to disown that side of ourselves, so Ketu in 1H people tend to have low self-esteem. They don’t think they’re that important or good even if they’re excellent people.

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nodes can have malefic effects i have ketu/venus 1st (virgo, venus in hasta and lagna/ketu in chitra) house moon/rahu 7th (pisces, both in revati)

ketu is headless cuts things off in the case of 1st house ketu there can be some level of being cut off from self

in my case my sun is 12th house in vedic (and certain western house systems) though i'm lucky it's a leo sun or my chart could be much worse, but it really amplifies the cut off self aspect in my chart, all of it does really

it's not so much low self esteem because i'm comfortable with myself as it is feeling like the self doesn't entirely matter and feeling a certain level of detachment from the physical form

well places nodes can be positiive but with certain planets, in certain houses and signs you will get malefic effects

posted December 18, 2020 02:09 AM            

Excellent explanation of the various views.
Western, Eastern, and Ancient Hellenistic.

After soundmark ^10:00
mythology ^15:00

(topic) A South Node Solar Eclipse in Sagittarius {Part One}
(Acyuta-bhava Dasa, December 11, 2020)
[38:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVMGoq5Q-Uo

posted December 18, 2020 02:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
nodes can have malefic effects i have ketu/venus 1st (virgo, venus in hasta and lagna/ketu in chitra) house moon/rahu 7th (pisces, both in revati)

ketu is headless cuts things off in the case of 1st house ketu there can be some level of being cut off from self

in my case my sun is 12th house in vedic (and certain western house systems) though i'm lucky it's a leo sun or my chart could be much worse, but it really amplifies the cut off self aspect in my chart, all of it does really

it's not so much low self esteem because i'm comfortable with myself as it is feeling like the self doesn't entirely matter and feeling a certain level of detachment from the physical form

well places nodes can be positiive but with certain planets, in certain houses and signs you will get malefic effects

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posted December 18, 2020 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
That's not malefic IMO. I don't know what you consider malefic. I also have ketu/Venus in 1H, Moon/Rahu in 7H and Sun in 12H. It can create low self-esteem as like you said ketu is detachment so one can feel less important about self while giving a lot of focus on others. No matter how good I am I never thought I was good until people tell me.

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>can have malefic effects depending on house and sign and planets it's with

is what i said

what signs do you have it in? i have debilitated venus 1st house in vedic with ketu, not the best especially given the dashas (in venus-ketu now and jesus it's ******* awful, every dasha i've had has been actually because all have been tied to first house and venus/ketu)

venus is typically functional benefic for virgo ascendants and in my case it's a bit ****** because both debilitated and cut off to some degree

it's in moon pada which is helpful but still 🤷‍♀️

i would say low self esteem, detachment from self, physical weakness and so on are negative issues again though ketu can vary depending on house and sign planets it's with etc

also benefics and malefics aren't the same for every lagna, venus and jupiter are not always functional benefics, for example jupiter for virgo ascendant is not s functional benefic (mine is 6th house retrograde in aquarius which makes it uncomfortable as well)

that being said ketu with venus can cut a person off from certain pleasures to some degree or be a marker for addiction

ketu first house can be a reason why people may project things onto a person and not see them clearly this is also not good

moon with rahu can create emotional issues, negative mental states and so on this isn't positive either, not quite sure how that wouldn't be considered an issue

can be emotional extremes in 7th house can indicate that coming from the partner as well, this isn't the best for stability

moon/rahu is typically a bit unstable without other factors to ground it

12th house sun not good for sun, in my case it being leo makes it better but still will add to the detachment from self levels that ketu also creates

in my case i have 4th house sag mars which is a bad place for mars and 3rd house saturn which isnt too bad but it's in scorpio so meh

ketu and rahu give effects based on placement and a lot factors in

posted December 18, 2020 10:49 AM            

http://www.johnhayes.biz/Articles/ArticlesVedic.htm

posted December 18, 2020 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
"Because the Nodes represent an eclipse of light (eclipses occur when there is a conjunction between one of the Nodes and the Sun or Moon) it is not considered particularly fortunate to have the Sun or Moon in conjunction with either of the Nodes in a birth-chart. The North Node (Rahu) conjunct the Moon can cause considerable mental disturbance, while the conjunction of the Sun with the South Node (Ketu) can cause compulsive or obsessive behaviour patterns to emerge. It is always worth exploring the house positions of the Nodes, particularly when they fall on the cusps of houses. They are most powerful when falling on the Ascendant-Descendant axis, indicating the strong influence of past life karma on ones present life situation, often creating what appears to be a very 'predestined' life."

http://www.johnhayes.biz/Articles/ArticlesVedic.htm

Still, I thought that South Node in 1st house should show a person that knows themselves, not one that is lost in the other. Do you think that it is detached from self because of the obsession/ the pull to get to the North Node and 7th house?

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it's not that i don't know myself, i do, it's more 🤔 trying to figure out how to clearly put this

i don't care about what people see when they look at me, like physically i just don't give a **** i don't feel a huge connection with my body in that way (i think 12th house sun amplifies this)

like i know people find me attractive i hear it all the time but i don't really connect to that kind of thing? i'm not sure how else to say it like i'm aware but it feels unimportant? it makes life easier that's cool but there's like a disconnect for me on some level

it's not like a point of pride or something, it's not some accomplishment or anything

i also notice people can project things onto me a lot almost like they see me but they don't and i think that's another part of the disconnect

like there's almost this dismissive quality to who i am because people can just look and that's where things end

and then with rahu and my moon in the 7th and venus kind of cut off by ketu i've noticed that i tend to experience life through connections with others

not that i obsessively seek partnership, things just happen when they do i've never like intentionally gone out to find someone

though since hs i can only think of probably a month or so? in my life where there wasn't some sort of situation or relationship going on

i don't make the first move like that either life just happens, karma fate and so on

but i've noticed that sort of thing is more important to me than anything material, i don't really care about that sort of thing acquiring stuff doesn't interest me a lot of things just feel worthless and pointless

like when my ex moved out and i realized that not a single thing decorating the house was mine outside of plants (this is an example of venus/ketu to some degree but just to show how ketu sort of cuts, because venus is material pleasures)

there's an experience of the self through others as well, the perceptions of others showing us sides of ourself

it's not a total lack of knowing though

posted December 18, 2020 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
That's how I feel too. I even wrote a song about how people look at me but they don't see me, they see themselves. I'm not interested about getting material things. I'm satisfied if I have where to go home and all my basic needs are fulfilled. I don't chase anyone. If it happens to have a relationship, that's fine, if not, its ok. I've actually been blamed for this by my friends and they thought that is something wrong with me, but I can be by myself. I thought that this is because of my Pisces Sun.

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posted December 18, 2020 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:

Excellent explanation of the various views.
Western, Eastern, and Ancient Hellenistic.

After soundmark ^10:00
mythology ^15:00

(topic) A South Node Solar Eclipse in Sagittarius {Part One}
(Acyuta-bhava Dasa, December 11, 2020)
[38:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVMGoq5Q-Uo

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posted December 18, 2020 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
>can have malefic effects depending on house and sign and planets it's with

is what i said

what signs do you have it in? i have debilitated venus 1st house in vedic with ketu, not the best especially given the dashas (in venus-ketu now and jesus it's ******* awful, every dasha i've had has been actually because all have been tied to first house and venus/ketu)

venus is typically functional benefic for virgo ascendants and in my case it's a bit ****** because both debilitated and cut off to some degree

it's in moon pada which is helpful but still 🤷‍♀️

i would say low self esteem, detachment from self, physical weakness and so on are negative issues again though ketu can vary depending on house and sign planets it's with etc

also benefics and malefics aren't the same for every lagna, venus and jupiter are not always functional benefics, for example jupiter for virgo ascendant is not s functional benefic (mine is 6th house retrograde in aquarius which makes it uncomfortable as well)

that being said ketu with venus can cut a person off from certain pleasures to some degree or be a marker for addiction

ketu first house can be a reason why people may project things onto a person and not see them clearly this is also not good

moon with rahu can create emotional issues, negative mental states and so on this isn't positive either, not quite sure how that wouldn't be considered an issue

can be emotional extremes in 7th house can indicate that coming from the partner as well, this isn't the best for stability

moon/rahu is typically a bit unstable without other factors to ground it

12th house sun not good for sun, in my case it being leo makes it better but still will add to the detachment from self levels that ketu also creates

in my case i have 4th house sag mars which is a bad place for mars and 3rd house saturn which isnt too bad but it's in scorpio so meh

ketu and rahu give effects based on placement and a lot factors in

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Like you said probably signs (and other aspects) play a part. My Moon is in Scorpio but it isn't conjunct Rahu and Jupiter forms a trine so that helps. Although Scorpio Moon itself is volatile but I don't experience the typical descriptions of Moon-Rahu. I spoke to a few people with Moon-Rahu and they don't feel it so negatively either, and theirs are very close orbs in Aries. Anyway KRS said Rahu-Moon negative effects fades as you passed 34-35yo so whatever you experienced do go away. That's a consolation, haha.

Another thing about Rahu 7H. It says these people typically stay single for a long time or forever. This ring true for me and my friend. But my mom and another friend also have this placement and they're married young. One marriage only so far for both. My aunt has Rahu in 1H which is another horrible placement for relationship but she's been happily married for 30yrs. So it seems to manifest differently for everyone.

My sun in 12H is in Aries so that helps with the 12H placement. Usually I'm happy being in the background but I can be a fighter when someone pushes me too much.

My Venus in Taurus with Malavya Yoga but I don't find anything great about it probably becos it also rules my 6H? I remember going through a lot of ups and downs in my relationships and work during my Venus Dasha. My Venus and ketu don't conjunct.

posted December 18, 2020 10:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Like you said probably signs (and other aspects) play a part. My Moon is in Scorpio but it isn't conjunct Rahu and Jupiter forms a trine so that helps. Although Scorpio Moon itself is volatile but I don't experience the typical descriptions of Moon-Rahu. I spoke to a few people with Moon-Rahu and they don't feel it so negatively either, and theirs are very close orbs in Aries. Anyway KRS said Rahu-Moon negative effects fades as you passed 34-35yo so whatever you experienced do go away. That's a consolation, haha.

Another thing about Rahu 7H. It says these people typically stay single for a long time or forever. This ring true for me and my friend. But my mom and another friend also have this placement and they're married young. One marriage only so far for both. My aunt has Rahu in 1H which is another horrible placement for relationship but she's been happily married for 30yrs. So it seems to manifest differently for everyone.

My sun in 12H is in Aries so that helps with the 12H placement. Usually I'm happy being in the background but I can be a fighter when someone pushes me too much.

My Venus in Taurus with Malavya Yoga but I don't find anything great about it probably becos it also rules my 6H? I remember going through a lot of ups and downs in my relationships and work during my Venus Dasha. My Venus and ketu don't conjunct.

I've been in Moon dasha since 2013. Fluctuating thoughts, feeling lost about my life in general, quiting my job, meeting someone new but not on a sure path... Basically a lot of changes to my life. An astrologer said my Scorpio Moon is the cause of how I'm always feeling unsure, worried especially during Moon dasha. 🤷‍♀️

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i'm 34 i know quite a few moon/rahu people, my ex also had it in pisces (uttara bhadrapada) and a guy i have a complicated situation with has it in aries, have two friends with it in scorpio (both jyestha)

i was born into mercury dasha then ketu dasha and now finishing venus dasha soon, sun dasha starts early next year

ive never heard single for rahu 7th but i have for rahu 1st

your other placements do affect things yeah, that's why i didnt make a blanket statement and instead explained the potential malefic effects

posted December 19, 2020 12:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm 34 i know quite a few moon/rahu people, my ex also had it in pisces (uttara bhadrapada) and a guy i have a complicated situation with has it in aries, have two friends with it in scorpio (both jyestha)

i was born into mercury dasha then ketu dasha and now finishing venus dasha soon, sun dasha starts early next year

ive never heard single for rahu 7th but i have for rahu 1st

your other placements do affect things yeah, that's why i didnt make a blanket statement and instead explained the potential malefic effects

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Me too born into Mercury Dasha. Saturn dasha is supposedly good for me but I don't think I'll live to experience it. Sun dasha was overall good for me although love life was practically non-existent.

posted December 19, 2020 12:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Me too born into Mercury Dasha. Saturn dasha is supposedly good for me but I don't think I'll live to experience it. Sun dasha was overall good for me although love life was practically non-existent.

What I read about 7H Rahu is that we often get disappointed with our partners, that's why some eventually chose to stay single. While I don't wanna be single forever but I did remain single for a looong time after 2 failed relationships. What 7H Rahu people need to learn is about ourselves, what we want and need, and to accept that no one is perfect so we will never be fully satisfied in whoever we're with due to the insatiable nature of Rahu.

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ive never had an issue with that personally, i expect/accept flaws pretty easily and readily

perfection just doesnt exist and i tend to put up with a fair bit so can't relate to that

posted December 19, 2020 12:50 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I have my south node in 1st house conjunct ASC and I found his description of the South Node on the Asc quite true. I disregard myself a lot even if all my results are very good. I tend to look for myself in the other and only recently I found out how important it is to know yourself so you can make better choices. We don't see the goods of our South Node because we are so used to it and we put it aside, like taking it for granded, to receive the things that aren't ours yet. The source of obsession of our North Node. Which I have to say, I diregarded a lot of things to go to my North Node in Capricorn.

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posted December 19, 2020 01:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i tend to put up with a fair bit so can't relate to that

i let a lot slide generally

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I do too and this is the nature of my Moon opposite Venus. This mutual aspect gives a sensitive nature especially mine's in 1-7 relationship axis. Pleasing the other party often comes before pleasing myself so usually I'll be happy just going with the flow but if the other person doesn't reciprocate with the same consideration I'll start to wonder...plus 7H NN = high expectations on partner. I never realise this tbh until an astrologer pointed it out to me.

posted December 19, 2020 06:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I do too and this is the nature of my Moon opposite Venus. This mutual aspect gives a sensitive nature especially mine's in 1-7 relationship axis. Pleasing the other party often comes before pleasing myself so usually I'll be happy just going with the flow but if the other person doesn't reciprocate with the same consideration I'll start to wonder...plus 7H NN = high expectations on partner. I never realise this tbh until an astrologer pointed it out to me.

Perhaps experience between a woman and a man differs.

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i generally put the other person first as well but again the high expectations aren't there, my moon and venus oppose by one degree and they're right on my ascendant/descendant axis (venus by 2 degrees moon by one)

i'm just not particularly unrealistic about it and expecting perfection and having very high expectations is unfair and unrealistic

i'm pretty easy to please in all honesty 🤷‍♀️