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Topic: karen generation
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ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 317 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 05:04 AM
what is responsible for creating the karen generationtheir pluto is in libra, but libra should be a peace loving sign...so idk... IP: Logged |
Travelman Knowflake Posts: 238 From: world Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 19, 2020 05:08 AM
I don't understand why a name is being used as an insult, it is a name. What is meant by this topic? IP: Logged |
ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 317 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 05:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Travelman: I don't understand why a name is being used as an insult, it is a name. What is meant by this topic?
during this generation there were lots of people named karen so it got the label karen generation.... IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2891 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 06:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Travelman: I don't understand why a name is being used as an insult, it is a name. What is meant by this topic?
been living under a rock or...? it's a name sure but it also refers to a specific type of woman that's a complete ***** in the same sort of way what you said is the equivalent of someone saying "john? that's a name why are you using it talking about someone picking up prostitutes? what is meant by that?" names can also have meanings 🤷♀️ just look it up if youre confused IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2891 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 06:58 AM
why do you think it's pluto? IP: Logged |
TaurusVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 1033 From: Heavens Above Registered: Aug 2016
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posted December 19, 2020 07:28 AM
Karen is now the most least popular name for a newborn girls as Adolph is for newborn boys. The name Karen was most definitely thrashed in 2020 and I'm going to say and beyond 2020. My friends and I always chuckle after the mention of seeing someone doing a "Karen" And why would you say Pluto in Libra? Isn't Libra all about peace and balance while "Karen's" are self entitled and destructive.. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 4862 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 19, 2020 08:29 AM
Pluto Virgo boomers are Karen's too. "okay Karen" "okay boomer"IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 4862 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 19, 2020 09:03 AM
For anyone out of the loop. A "Karen" is a joke name used for women who are un-necessarily rude, demanding, condescending to people who do jobs of service/retail. This is a beautiful example (starts at :54) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okNc-9Txjdk IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 4862 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 19, 2020 09:13 AM
My mom is pretty nice and friendly in general but I die of embarrassment when I go out to eat with her and she asks at a sit down place if we can get the food fast because we are in a hurry. She has Pluto Virgo, and Neptune Scorpio IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 1138 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 19, 2020 09:20 AM
There is no "Karen" generation. You will find plenty of entitled and whiny people in every generation. I know plenty of "Karens" who are Millennials, who have Pluto in Scorpio. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa Knowflake Posts: 353 From: Romania Registered: Jun 2020
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posted December 19, 2020 09:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: My mom is pretty nice and friendly in general but I die of embarrassment when I go out to eat with her and she asks at a sit down place if we can get the food fast because we are in a hurry. She has Pluto Virgo, and Neptune Scorpio
OMG, a thing like that happened with my mother when we were in a shoes store at the cashier and there was no one there and she went to find an employee to come to sell us the pair of shoes ))) IP: Logged |
ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 317 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: why do you think it's pluto?
because pluto is one of the slower moving planets taht would be responsible to characterising a whole generation... IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2891 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 12:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong: because pluto is one of the slower moving planets taht would be responsible to characterising a whole generation...
yeah but not the only one IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9692 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 19, 2020 12:47 PM
All generations have many karens. Guys, too. Lots of younger generations have people who are at least as toxic as the so-called Karens (that includes those who would "sympathize with Karen" and those who would "hate Karen" while being a dark mirror reflection of each other). Also...Libra can be aggressive and contrarian. They're not the meek, spineless people needing someone to hold their hand to get them through the day that many make them out to be. I can see Libra being a Karen (male or female), just as I can see a Libra standing up to Karens. But the Karens have always been with us, and will continue to be. IP: Logged |
ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 317 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 02:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: yeah but not the only one
which planet would you use to descaribe a generation? IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2891 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 02:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong: which planet would you use to descaribe a generation?
i wouldn't pick a single slow moving planet for that 🤷♀️ IP: Logged |
ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 317 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 19, 2020 11:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: i wouldn't pick a single slow moving planet for that 🤷♀️
but generations are defined by slow moving planets IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2891 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 20, 2020 06:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong: but generations are defined by slow moving planets
no **** , but i said i wouldn't use a "single" one to be definitive when there are multiple very slow moving planets that also affect these people's charts pluto is not the only slow moving thing in a chart so in my view it's senseless to only consider pluto and not say the **** that uranus and neptune and even jupiter and saturn would affect because pluto isn't so strong that it will define a person's chart without being a heavy influence (through aspects and secondary rulership) anyway in my view it's completely senseless to attribute these things to one placement and not take anything else into account no chart is read that way 🤷♀️and even your response to what i said was plural not singular you said "planets" not "planet" which is exactly what i said in the first place ("single" meaning one afterall, and before that "not the only one") you reiterated my initial point in your own words and i said it that way deliberately, did you? IP: Logged |
Travelman Knowflake Posts: 238 From: world Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 20, 2020 10:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: been living under a rock or...? it's a name sure but it also refers to a specific type of woman that's a complete ***** in the same sort of waywhat you said is the equivalent of someone saying "john? that's a name why are you using it talking about someone picking up prostitutes? what is meant by that?" names can also have meanings 🤷♀️ just look it up if youre confused
Wow, that is really rude, is that how you normally speak to people face to face? I don't live under or even near any rocks, I travel the world in fact, so quite the opposite. So people named Karen get screwed over because their name is now some made-up insult because the name was arbitrarily and randomly picked to insult. My sister is named Karen, what about the many people with the same name who are nothing like what you describe? Just screw them? There are plenty of words that can be used to label that behavior: ignorant, entitled, spoiled, annoying, insane, etc. but I guess "Karen" is the dumb version of those descriptive words. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 740 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted December 20, 2020 12:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: All generations have many karens. Guys, too. Lots of younger generations have people who are at least as toxic as the so-called Karens (that includes those who would "sympathize with Karen" and those who would "hate Karen" while being a dark mirror reflection of each other). Also...Libra can be aggressive and contrarian. They're not the meek, spineless people needing someone to hold their hand to get them through the day that many make them out to be. I can see Libra being a Karen (male or female), just as I can see a Libra standing up to Karens. But the Karens have always been with us, and will continue to be.
Yes, Libra could be dangerous 😏 However, having Pluto in Libra doesn’t give many Libra qualities, it’s still Pluto, not Jupiter. All generations have these women. Men aren’t that often.I learn to appreciate people who can confront you in your face, not to do crap and badmouthing behind your back. quote: Originally posted by Travelman: So people named Karen get screwed over because their name is now some made-up insult because the name was arbitrarily and randomly picked to insult.
That’s how it usually goes. We’re so damn sensitive and defensive about one thing because it’s in mainstream, and completely ignorant and insensitive about the others.
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2891 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 20, 2020 12:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Travelman: Wow, that is really rude, is that how you normally speak to people face to face? I don't live under or even near any rocks, I travel the world in fact, so quite the opposite.So people named Karen get screwed over because their name is now some made-up insult because the name was arbitrarily and randomly picked to insult. My sister is named Karen, what about the many people with the same name who are nothing like what you describe? Just screw them? There are plenty of words that can be used to label that behavior: ignorant, entitled, spoiled, annoying, insane, etc. but I guess "Karen" is the dumb version of those descriptive words.
yup if someone says something dumb i call it like i see it, even to their face you might travel the world but you don't seem to have much exposure to common phrases do you feel outrage for "john" too they're not all out picking up prostitutes, but damn is that name used... you're legit being ridiculous and it's sort of cute in the sense that it makes me think of the little prince like that level of outrage about flowers getting eaten by sheep and stuff but it's not like i invented the ******* term here i just know what it means because i exist and interact with people 🤷♀️ people don't think everyone with the name karen is a "karen" that's just stupid, literally no one thinks that so it wouldn't apply to your sister are you on the spectrum by any chance? i'm not being insulting you just seem to be taking these things quite literally and not for what they are (like your response about living under rocks, which i couldve taken as a joke if it wasn't for your view on the phrase "karen") IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 5055 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 20, 2020 02:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: yup if someone says something dumb i call it like i see it, even to their face you might travel the world but you don't seem to have much exposure to common phrases do you feel outrage for "john" too they're not all out picking up prostitutes, but damn is that name used... you're legit being ridiculous and it's sort of cute in the sense that it makes me think of the little prince like that level of outrage about flowers getting eaten by sheep and stuff but it's not like i invented the ******* term here i just know what it means because i exist and interact with people 🤷♀️ people don't think everyone with the name karen is a "karen" that's just stupid, literally no one thinks that so it wouldn't apply to your sister are you on the spectrum by any chance? i'm not being insulting you just seem to be taking these things quite literally and not for what they are (like your response about living under rocks, which i couldve taken as a joke if it wasn't for your view on the phrase "karen")
Come on, Dumizi! Be nice You know written words don’t travel well sometimes. As for Pluto, I think I will add my money here BUT, not in the generational sense. I’ll put the money on the transit in Cap. I feel as if many people have been clinging on for dear life, to something, without knowing why. Fear of loss/death/loneliness etc have caused them to lash out, complain and point fingers, at others, to left and right. Problem is that the more they cling on, the worse it’ll get. Those of us that are able to let go, change, and find acceptance-without fear-have gotten the brunt of it. We are also the ones that should guide. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2891 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 20, 2020 03:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: Come on, Dumizi! Be nice You know written words don’t travel well sometimes. As for Pluto, I think I will add my money here BUT, not in the generational sense. I’ll put the money on the transit in Cap. I feel as if many people have been clinging on for dear life, to something, without knowing why. Fear of loss/death/loneliness etc have caused them to lash out, complain and point fingers, at others, to left and right. Problem is that the more they cling on, the worse it’ll get. Those of us that are able to let go, change, and find acceptance-without fear-have gotten the brunt of it. We are also the ones that should guide.
what did i say that was mean? i used a very common figure of speech and it was taken literally, to me that suggests someone may be on the spectrum it isn't mean to question that, it'd only be ****** up if i thought that made someone else less than, which i don't it does however mean i need to adjust my communication style to meet them part of the way if that's the case edit: i've known a few people with asperger's and being aware helps get points across because i tend to speak in ways that aren't necessarily literal these were not common misunderstandings just anyone would make because they weren't a matter of tone (which is why you think i'm being mean by asking because you're not catching tone) they're misunderstandings that seem to come from taking things very literally and also being unable to see that a name also being a phrase doesn't mean others make the immediate association when meeting someone with said name if that is that case then i can just be like "oh alright ok" and adjust myself when i speak to him, but asking is the only way to be sure
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 2891 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted December 20, 2020 04:09 PM
i might be tactless but very rarely do i say things from a place of actual cruelty 🤷♀️ i have to be very very madas for your other thing like other people have said these sorts of people have always existed it's just a behavior that's being noticed now i think what you said about transits and so on is accurate to some extent, but i think it's actually coming from a similar place as cancel culture any undesirable behavior being labeled and put up for others to scrutinize and label unacceptable etc and so on not to say the behaviors associated with the term are acceptable because they aren't but they're behaviors that have always existed people are just legit putting all kinds of **** out there to try to force this sort of different mentality on others that appears more accepting and yet actually isn't so these women behave poorly they're given a name and called out and turned into memes and so on so they can be held up as an example of what not to be, just like everyone else who sort of gets ripped apart arguably some of them could have just had a bad day or some **** you know? IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3657 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 20, 2020 09:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Travelman: Wow, that is really rude, is that how you normally speak to people face to face? I don't live under or even near any rocks, I travel the world in fact, so quite the opposite.So people named Karen get screwed over because their name is now some made-up insult because the name was arbitrarily and randomly picked to insult. My sister is named Karen, what about the many people with the same name who are nothing like what you describe? Just screw them? There are plenty of words that can be used to label that behavior: ignorant, entitled, spoiled, annoying, insane, etc. but I guess "Karen" is the dumb version of those descriptive words.
i just wanted you to know that I agree 100% with you and that there is nothing stupid, or dumb, or wrong with you for asking the question you asked. IP: Logged |