Lindaland
  Astrology 2.0
  Recognition in the chart

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Recognition in the chart
dragonflies
Knowflake

Posts: 48
From:
Registered: Mar 2020

posted December 22, 2020 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone,

have you ever considered that shows recognition or lack thereof in a chart?

I've been reading up on a local post-war author, who is phenomenal, yet never knew her work would be famous before she died at 50.

She was an Aries with Mars-Pluto trine and a Capricorn moon. I don't know her Rising sign, so figuring out her 12th house is impossible.

Apart from this, the Neptune in Capricorn generation seems like an unrecognised bunch whose work did not account for much. As soon as they entered the job market, the financial crisis hit, as soon as they established themselves in a career, covid happens. It's like all of their efforts disappear.

Please share your thoughts or experiences!

IP: Logged

mee_chryssa
Knowflake

Posts: 519
From: Romania
Registered: Jun 2020

posted December 22, 2020 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is that the Capricorn generation did this when we were the ones that brought some of the things that you are using today?
We are too young for this to be made by us. All this are made by people that are older than us and have higher positions in politics and international organizations.

The financial crisis started when I was 16 years old and if you want to know how it happened, watch The Big Short, for an easy explain.

Thats not true at all what you say and I feel offended by your thoughts on this. Neptune and Uranus are outer planets. The planet of the Higher Mind meets the planet Neptune that rules spirituality, not as a religion, but as a being, as one with the nature and one with the universe. Uranus is the one that brings reforms. Being in Capricorn and as the way the world is right now and after a thousand years of disruptions, two world wars, not to mention all the wars that were after that, a lot of good things happened during this conjunction in 88-96. http://astromatrix.org:8111/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Uranus-Conjunct-Neptune

IP: Logged

dragonflies
Knowflake

Posts: 48
From:
Registered: Mar 2020

posted December 22, 2020 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
How is that the Capricorn generation did this when we were the ones that brought some of the things that you are using today?
We are too young for this to be made by us. All this are made by people that are older than us and have higher positions in politics and international organizations.

The financial crisis started when I was 16 years old and if you want to know how it happened, watch The Big Short, for an easy explain.

Thats not true at all what you say and I feel offended by your thoughts on this. Neptune and Uranus are outer planets. The planet of the Higher Mind meets the planet Neptune that rules spirituality, not as a religion, but as a being, as one with the nature and one with the universe. Uranus is the one that brings reforms. Being in Capricorn and as the way the world is right now and after a thousand years of disruptions, two world wars, not to mention all the wars that were after that, a lot of good things happened during this conjunction in 88-96. http://astromatrix.org:8111/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Uranus-Conjunct-Neptune


Have you read anything I said? I don't think so. And thank you for pointing to a Hollywood film for what I've lived through - and not as teeanger, I might add. Try reading comprehension.

IP: Logged

dragonflies
Knowflake

Posts: 48
From:
Registered: Mar 2020

posted December 22, 2020 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

Thats not true at all what you say and I feel offended by your thoughts on this.

Btw, what you say is very extreme. You are offended by my thoughts? How dare you?

IP: Logged

mee_chryssa
Knowflake

Posts: 519
From: Romania
Registered: Jun 2020

posted December 22, 2020 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I am, I have this conjunction and all this people that are around my age pretty fought against many things in their adulthood. I was born in 91, so I was 16 years old when the financial crisis started, so that wasn't made by us, it was made by other people. We were too young to have that power. We still are. All the people that are around my age are environmental conscious, they are bringing reforms, a lot of countries fought for their freedom during that time. My country obtained our freedom in 89. And it took a lot of courage to do this. All the freedom that you see today is built by us, not entirely, but it is. And we are not the types that are free to their bones, like the ones that came after us, but we are the ones that didn't take the materialistic view that the people that were in charge tried to pin them on us. We even went in depression and lots of mental problems because of how the world was built until we came. The generation that came after us are a lot more depressed than us. Because of the social pressure.

As you mentioned, you are older than me. People around your age were in charge during the financial crisis. Not us.

"unrecognised bunch whose work did not account for much" - like... how is that even true? because we don't fit into your standard and you mean the standard that was before us and that was a good way of living?

"as soon as they established themselves in a career, covid happens" - here... do you mean we took covid from China and brought it to you?

More on the Neptune/Uranus conjunction.
http://www.palden.co.uk/ephem/uranus-neptune-cycles.html

IP: Logged

mee_chryssa
Knowflake

Posts: 519
From: Romania
Registered: Jun 2020

posted December 22, 2020 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And to answer your question about recognition in life - 10th house, Capricorn, MC, Stelliums, in general, in the 10th house or Capricorn.
12th house keeps them hidden
Venus highlighted in the natal chart for arts, along with Neptune.
Uranus in conjunct with Mercury could give intelligence, if nurtured.
Mercury conjunct MC.

Not a single aspect could lead to fame or recognition of ones abilities. There has to be many of them.

Usually, the 10th house is in the public eye, so a stellium there, with all the planets in the same sign, pretty tight in degrees and with Mercury and Uranus, could mean that person is intelligent and other people are seeing this and approving of his status.

The sign matters too.
If it's in Leo could be an artist, Gemini a writer.

That's all that comes to my mind right now.

IP: Logged

LuckyLeo
Knowflake

Posts: 122
From:
Registered: Dec 2011

posted December 22, 2020 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t think dragonflies is blaming anything on the Neptune in Capricorn generation. I think she or he is suggesting that the Neptune in Capricorn generation’s worldly status kind of eluded them, that Neptune kind of made it impossible to manifest. Due to things outside of their control, their success in the outer world (career, etc...Capricorn stuff) was intangible for them. I may be wrong but I think that’s what dragonflies meant.

It is an interesting insight dragonflies

IP: Logged

mee_chryssa
Knowflake

Posts: 519
From: Romania
Registered: Jun 2020

posted December 22, 2020 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would be more of the house in which Neptune is in the natal chart, than the sign itself.
The sign shows how the planets ”behaves” and the house shows ”where”.

IP: Logged

mirage29
Knowflake

Posts: 14149
From: us
Registered: May 2012

posted December 23, 2020 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "outer planets" are known as Generational planets. Many many many people have been born with Uranus, Neptune, and their Pluto in same sign, and subsets have same configurations, like, squares, sextiles.

I once listened to a lecturer on the generations. They explained that souls born in certain zodiac outer planet groupings are BORN with an IMPRINT that came from their parent's soul grouping.

People who had lived through the World Wars {Depressions, Pandemics} left an unconscious energetic imprint into their children, with instincts on how and what it was to exist through what the parents went through. Survival Skills were passed down to 'children' without their really being "conscious" of 'why' .. for example .. you NEED to save 'string' and paper and cardboard. That was printed INTO their atmosphere, and absorbed into the nervous system. Survived in a time of terrible 'deprivation'.

I'm a certain subset of the Baby Boomer Generation.
What they said was that 'this' generation was born into a time of Change-Inbetween-- 'after' war. We 'hold within' that sense of collective chaos-feeling when things become "past" and "new" is on the horizon. Our nerve systems 'know' that consciousness of inter-between periods. That we 'hold within' the right-instincts that can help 'guide' through more major HUGE Shifts.

The Generation my own children were born into (1980s), enjoyed the beginnings of Economic Stability and Growth that came after the 'unsettled' energies took better flow.

The Generation of children born to the 1980's parents, gave Birth to those who started to experience another SHIFT, a Change-- "9-11" USA, Terrorist Global Activity. The world began not to feel 'safe' anymore. Capitalism had begun a 'grasp' of the Economy that put it out-of-balance NOW, in these recent years.

Along with the Pandemic 2019 {now, and next year}, the 'holes' and out-of-balance Economics seemed to just "appear"... suddenly, Automation is taking JOBS. Pandemic KILLED so many!!!

We have unrests in nations of the world.
Totalitarians 'attempt' to form a TIGHT GRIP, but since this past month, seems that 'some' of those .. {who basically terrorized some} .. are being brought down 'by' the People. {I just found out about Israel's Govt last night! } ... Some who had HAD such a grip, are starting to realize *they* need to change {UK}.

We went through some Transits.
Capricorn.. institutions corporations... but Capricorn is NOT to represent UNBALANCED powers. Duties and Responsibilities. .. We had had the first inklings that our infrastructures were old and crumbling utilities and bridges and buildings and roads. THIS needs attention now.
.. ALSO, economic infrastructures had been IGNORED. Changes with that in the past years made it VERY apparent that 'something's wrong and OFF-Balance'. This was ESPECIALLY revealed at the start of the Global Pandemic-- awful!! This needs attention, as regular people cannot make ENDS MEET on what they make, and the Higher Costs.
. .
Pluto and Saturn .. getting to the 'work' of bringing balance.

So you, with the Neptune Capricorn, are born with 'inside-faith-knowing' how to organize {re-organize} what is crumbling and dissolving. Built into your cells and fibers, is a sense of HOW to set this Right. Later, you will be Called to this Group Task?


You, in your 'working years' are NOW learning {without realizing it}. You are prepared and practiced with the IMPRINT, the unconscious collective Knowing of what needs to happen, for when the Future asks for your innate wisdoms.

After your Chiron Returns, and as you experience your 2nd Saturn Returns, {30 years from now, for some of you}, your Generation's Soul Group will give the INPUTS needed, during the Right Collective Time.

You are in The SCHOOL of The Universe.
You are NOW.. going through the emotional downloads, practical and intellectual-- this will be needed when you help the 'Next' Generations .. and maybe even for us 'boomers.

With this Jupiter-Saturn at 0-Aquarius,
over the next 20 years,
you will be involved with the 'cleaning up' of what Saturn (with Pluto) completes; you'll be involved in making the Corrections needed, to bring us towards the Balance again.

It's really kind of surreal-- being able to look back in the rear-view mirror.

Your Generation is part of MultiGroupCYCLES in Generations LIVING 'NOW'. Sometimes it seems that the lived-lessons from one set of outer transit genners doesn't quite '~consciously' dawn among the generations-- Some seem to need to live-it-all-over-again, and not to have absorbed, which would save time and suffering, and cause much more RAPID advancement. We 'need' each other.. collaborate.

But, it is my wish, that somewhere, somehow, the VALUE and Wisdoms of EACH and every Cycling Soul Group, will be Known and the Lessons... be Applied in a way that makes Advancements come at even faster paces. Not just advancements in techs, but Sociologically. This is very important in these next years.

Aquarian generation

Team Players CoCreate WITH each other.
One is not the enemy of the other.


I'm sorry if any here aren't individually feeling 'appreciated' for the group-work you all are doing?
But this WILL Come.
You will come to look BACK and SEE what and how 'Your Part' in everything playing out-- in our grand collective lifetimes.

What others did in former generations,
are the base foundation for the next that come along to ADD. The atomic and astronomy discoveries in the early 1900s, led to our ability to Explore-Space now. Getting ready to explore Planets outside of Earth, and other Moons than our own.

Soooo Amazing....
I hope I wrote clearly enough.


++++++++++++
Dragonflies... I KNOW this post didn't address your original question in a "direct" way?

What I would add .. is that we, in OUR time, have the MARVEL of Communications!!! YES.

Back in that author's Chiron time, the internet was just beginning. Corporations were using it, and began to communicate with other corporations. Then, the personal computer was born, and households began bringing them home. Schools made it part of their Learning experiences.

In the Music world, some of the Classical Musicians were 'noted' AFTER they died. "Post-humously".

NOW, Authors and Musicians can post their work on the World Wide Web. Recognition comes MUCH more quickly---

But LIFE needs to be Lived first,
and Accomplishments made, and Collected.

Singer musician composer Dolly Parton.. had kind of been looked-over. People who gave Awards had assumed she already was Recognized for her Contribution to Humankind.

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Parton,_Dolly

There are plans in the works right now, to Give her a presidential award.

Saturn-Jupiter was ON her Sun Capricorn 29, when this oversight was realized.

IP: Logged

Sunnya
Knowflake

Posts: 656
From: Sunnyland
Registered: Jun 2014

posted December 23, 2020 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in Capricorn - dissolving structures. It can also be said this is a generation that is dissolving and redoing all old established societal systems and political structures.

Most of us either have Uranus in Sag or in Cap and Pluto in Scorpio. I do see us as the rebuilders and reformers, so our recognition is not centered/focused in the old limited definition of "achievement" aka money, status (Capricorn). We are to transcend (Neptune) it (Capricorn).

IP: Logged

mee_chryssa
Knowflake

Posts: 519
From: Romania
Registered: Jun 2020

posted December 24, 2020 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sunnya:
Neptune in Capricorn - dissolving structures. It can also be said this is a generation that is dissolving and redoing all old established societal systems and political structures.

Most of us either have Uranus in Sag or in Cap and Pluto in Scorpio. I do see us as the rebuilders and reformers, so our recognition is not centered/focused in the old limited definition of "achievement" aka money, status (Capricorn). We are to transcend (Neptune) it (Capricorn).


IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 137002
From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate.
Registered: Apr 2009

posted December 31, 2020 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 137002
From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate.
Registered: Apr 2009

posted January 07, 2021 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 137002
From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate.
Registered: Apr 2009

posted January 16, 2021 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright 2020

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a