posted December 27, 2020 03:33 AM            

When was it last activated by a transit, and what transit was that?

When is it next activated by a transit, and what transit will that be?

Why not just accept this chart owner has an immovable non-believing nature?*

[ *The most visible planet (Venus/personal values) in its fall sign (of cynical Virgo) + 10th house (of status/reputation) and squaring the mid-point of Mercury/Pluto in suspicious Scorpio + 12th house (of hidden psychological enemies).]

posted December 27, 2020 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

How is their Chiron wound currently manifesting?

When was it last activated by a transit, and what transit was that?

When is it next activated by a transit, and what transit will that be?

Why not just accept this chart owner has an immovable non-believing nature?*

[ *The most visible planet (Venus/personal values) in its fall sign (of cynical Virgo) + 10th house (of status/reputation) and squaring the mid-point of Mercury/Pluto in suspicious Scorpio + 12th house (of hidden psychological enemies).]

"Please God ... grant me the courage to change what I can change; the serenity to accept what I cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference."

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posted December 27, 2020 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
They mentioned that they hated themselves so I thought maybe it was the Chiron placement.

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Leo Chiron can inflict a wound of feeling uncreative, unappreciated and unrecognised - which adversely affects our self-worth. ... And, in the 8th house, that would lead to her feeling that others do not value her.

But ... I suspect it's her afflicted Venus that you really need to be exploring.

posted December 27, 2020 08:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Leo Chiron can inflict a wound of feeling uncreative, unappreciated and unrecognised - which adversely affects our self-worth. ... And, in the 8th house, that would lead to her feeling that others do not value her.

But ... I suspect it's her afflicted Venus that you really need to be exploring.

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posted December 27, 2020 10:19 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Virgo Venus points to a person which has high expectations of the other person, they are so critical of other people that when they find a flaw in themselves, they could eventually hate themselves for that little flaw.

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posted December 27, 2020 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Yes, I know Venus in Virgo can be critical of others. But he said he hates himself. He said he projects his love to others because he hates himself.

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posted December 27, 2020 11:19 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I think it is like Graham said - the Virgo Venus. Along with the hard aspects to Chiron.
I have a friend that has Virgo Venus and when I calculated her chart and saw that she has this placement, I told her "hm, virgo venus, it's hard for someone to get into your graces, right?" and she laughed. If he didn't learn that everyone is different and perfection doesn't exist, along with the Leo Chiron, would lead to a hate of self. He is kind of plutonian with his conjunction from Pluto to Mars/Sun/Mercury, and with the North Node in the second house, it is in this lifetime that he will learn to appreciate himself and discover self-worth. Neptune conjunct the North Node will help him to understand that there are other things that he doesn't understand, but they exists, like other power influencing his path in life. South Node in Cancer people are immature (myself included). They don't know their path outside of family environment.
So, Venus, Chiron, 2nd house North Node.

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Yes, I know how Venus in Virgo is. I have another friend who has it and he's a Virgo Sun. He would always criticize me and say things about how I needed to lose weight. And how he didn't like my body etc. I am now leery of men who have this placement.

This Scorpio guy says he doesn't have an issue with how I look and that he likes me I guess he wouldn't lie. It's kind of odd though because I'm completely different from his ex who has a Virgo Mars.

So sometimes it's kind of hard for me to believe that he's attracted to me. When I know what his ex looks like and also how picky men with this placement can be.

Honestly, though I don't know why he didn't just stay with his ex since they have Venus conjunct Mars. But he said she hurt him they have Sun conjunct Chiron so I'm guessing that's probably why.

I have Venus in Pisces and with this guy my Venus makes an exact opposition with his Venus. But my Saturn also squares it and his Venus is in my 2nd house. I was thinking that maybe our friendship would help him with healing. I notice that his North Node is conjunct my Neptune.

posted December 27, 2020 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
You are going to reject him and hurt his feelings with the square from your saturn to his Venus. His Saturn is in square to your Sun too. So he is going to be critical about your personality and judgemental. Still, this aspect is found in many married couples, even if it is a difficult aspect. I don't know how this people got over this aspect and lived happily ever after. Maybe because some people are imune to judmental people.
Saturn square to a personal planet indicates incompatibility which is not managed healthy, but through abusive behaviour.

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Saturn hard aspects can also act as glue. It depends on the Saturn person and if they are aware of their behavior. I am aware that Saturn can be critical and hurt the Venus person in hard aspects. And for awhile I believe I may have been cold towards him and pushing him away. But now I’ve realized this and have decided to not be that way towards him. But to help and provide stability instead which is the positive part of having this aspect in synastry. The Saturn person is like a teacher towards the Sun person.

posted December 28, 2020 09:42 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Saturn hard aspects can also act as glue. It depends on the Saturn person and if they are aware of their behavior. I am aware that Saturn can be critical and hurt the Venus person in hard aspects. And for awhile I believe I may have been cold towards him and pushing him away. But now I’ve realized this and have decided to not be that way towards him. But to help and provide stability instead which is the positive part of having this aspect in synastry. The Saturn person is like a teacher towards the Sun person.

My Moon is in his 2nd house and my Neptune conjunct his North Node. As the Neptune person I can help him with spiritual awakening I think it could be a positive aspect. I was going to stop talking to him at first but then I thought about it.

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To be an effective teacher of the inner planet person, you (the Saturn person) must be conscious/aware of why you "have been cold to him".

Might he remind you (consciously or unconsciously) of someone in your childhood/adolescence whose Venus qualities made you feel inadequate in some way?