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honeyloveee
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posted January 14, 2021 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyloveee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean mainly the aspects to mercury, or mercury in a specific house.

There was this girl that I noticed is very upfront and agressive when talking. She has mercury in saggatarius conjunct pluto (1 degree). Can it be that aspect alone?
I have mercury opposite pluto and square to mars (but I dont have mars opp Pluto), and Ive often been told Im abit agressive when provoked.

I thought that it was the square to mars that makes me verbally agressive but talking to that girl she reminded me of myself abit. She was just very confrontational as if trying to pick up a fight instead of normally talking. What mercury aspect/position can make someone like that?

Also could this be a scorpio trait since this girl is a scorpio sun and venus?

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posted January 14, 2021 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is because of that Mercury/Mars square, opposite Pluto.

Normally, Mars in hard aspect to Mercury - opposition, square, conjunction.

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posted January 15, 2021 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries Mercury sq Cap Mars

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Yes, Sag Mercury conjunct Pluto in combo with strong Scorpio can indicate a rather forceful, aggressive, at times biting and/or quite sarcastic type of communication style.

My partner has early Pisces Mercury conjunct early Pisces Mars, ASC/chart ruler closely conjunct Jupiter, 1st House SN conjunct Sun, Cap ASC. and Aries Moon. She can be very blunt and direct, and sometimes unthinkably (unconsciously) mean or inconsiderate. In some ways, she's more like a guy. My former best friend, before he introduced us (they were friends as well), warned me about her, "she's really bossy...".

That Pisces Mercury Mars conjunction ends up acting like an odd cross between Sagittarius and Scorpio more than Pisces Mercury. Think of it in color terms. Pure, middle of Pisces is like violet color. What happens when you add a bunch of red (Mars) to violet. You get different rather reddish purples.

A lighter, brighter fairly reddish purple is like Sagittarius's archetypal energy. Scorpio is a deep, deep, and dark and even more reddish tinged, purple. Both can be rather blunt, but have a different flavor, motivation, and/or intention behind it. With her, it's interesting as she sometimes changes from one to the other. She has a rather blunt, honest, and direct side, not usually trying to be mean or cutting, but she definitely has a sarcastic and cutting side at times as well.

I can be pretty blunt, direct. and honest myself, but rarely am I ever trying to be mean or cutting with it. I have Cap Mercury conjunct ASC/Chart ruler the Sun, where both are trine Virgo Mars Jupiter conjunction with Jupiter retrograding back into the 1st. The closest aspect in the above is the Merc Jupiter trine with less than a degree of separation. I try to balance honesty and directness with some consideration and balance (Libra Moon, strong Venus, and 7th House Pisces SN combo contributes to that).

I'm basically sort of a more nice and considerate version of her communication wise. But in my own way, I can be a little bossy and/or overbearing too, or at the very least, come across as a know it all more often. (We both have strong combo of Cardinal and Fixed energies, with a fair amount of Planetary fire backing that, especially Jupiter and Sun. We've both had a fair amount of leader type roles in other lives).

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posted January 15, 2021 04:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, 3rd House pertains some to this topic as well. I believe my partner has Aries on 3rd cusp.

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posted January 15, 2021 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury Aries square Cancer Mars, it's the only aspect to my Mercury so I'm guessing it's the Mercury Mars aspect that's enough to cause someone to be this way. Which I was told I am.

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posted January 15, 2021 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, like I have a Aries Mercury, my Mars is square Sun and it can make me anxious sometimes. In synastry, any planets that my mars touches with conjunction makes me aggressive with that person, even if its Moon, Mercury, Sun.

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posted January 15, 2021 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeyloveee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Also, like I have a Aries Mercury, my Mars is square Sun and it can make me anxious sometimes. In synastry, any planets that my mars touches with conjunction makes me aggressive with that person, even if its Moon, Mercury, Sun.

Only the conjunction or also square oppositions?
I know a guy who has mars opposite moon. And he had a short temper....is mars squared my mercury and I felt like he exaggerated small problems in our relationship. Sometimes I felt that whatever I say it rubs him the wrong way lol.

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posted January 15, 2021 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by honeyloveee:
Only the conjunction or also square oppositions?
I know a guy who has mars opposite moon. And he had a short temper....is mars squared my mercury and I felt like he exaggerated small problems in our relationship. Sometimes I felt that whatever I say it rubs him the wrong way lol.

Any hard aspect. They will play out a little different, but makes the people involved aggressive, more on the Mars person.
Regarding your friend, I suppose anything that was offending him was protecting getting his defence mechanism on.

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posted January 16, 2021 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread reminds me of my husband who has Mercury in Cancer conjunction Mars in Cancer.

His mother has Sagittarius Mercury, Virgo Mars, Virgo Pluto, and a Scorpio sun.

They communicate in a same way. If I can turn back the time, I should really look for a Mercury aspect in my partner because I want a peaceful home life.

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posted January 16, 2021 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Also, like I have a Aries Mercury, my Mars is square Sun and it can make me anxious sometimes. In synastry, any planets that my mars touches with conjunction makes me aggressive with that person, even if its Moon, Mercury, Sun.

Literally the same with me, especially when it's their Mars.

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posted January 17, 2021 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Mercury, Mercury/Pluto

aggressive/passive aggressive, snarky, rude, manipulative

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posted January 24, 2021 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted January 24, 2021 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend easily gets aggressive. Even when casually chatting, she likes to use sarcasm and is very argumentative. Her Mercury and Mars conjunct Pluto in Libra.

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posted January 24, 2021 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definately Mercury in conjunction/opposition/square to Mars as many have already mentioned.

I'm suprised though that Mercury in hard aspect to Uranus isn't mentioned by anyone.

I disagree with Pluto-Mercury and the two ones I saw mentioning it in here also have Mars in the mix which is the culprit imo.

Mars in 3rd H and Mars in Aries probably bring the same result unless another planet (Saturn, Neptune, Pluto) is helping them.

I would also include Moon-Mars, Moon-Uranus hard aspects and maybe Mars-Uranus hard aspects too.

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posted June 03, 2021 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pale Blue Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Mercury Aries square Cancer Mars, it's the only aspect to my Mercury so I'm guessing it's the Mercury Mars aspect that's enough to cause someone to be this way. Which I was told I am.

I have the exact same aspect in the same signs, and yes, I've been told my tone is too direct, harsh, aggressive, antagonistic, you name it.

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posted June 04, 2021 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is so interesting! Because I have the opposite problem. If I need to address something and I think I am going to have a tone while saying it...I just won't say it at all. If I don't like how my assistant is doing something and it's not a huge deal and I think it's going to come out wrong I just let it go and shut up. I only say something in professional settings like that if I know I can say respectfully even if it is kind of uncomfortable.

Oh but of course I have my moments where if someone is in my face and on my case...I will let people know that I am a actually a 81+(h.

Oh if I feel like someone is getting a bit out of line, I might get a bit passive aggressive.

If I need someone to do something I usually start with "when you get a chance..."

But yes I am also 81+chy deep down inside but people who know this typically love this about me most of the time.

Mercury Taurus house 12 Ruling planet
trine Uranus, Neptune,
sextile Venus

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posted June 05, 2021 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amoranthaniela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My merc is mostly unaspected save for trine capricorn MC, and I do have moon opp mars.

I sound very aggressive and bossy when I speak sometimes, and sometimes it's just too intense and people go quiet. I have to think ahead and try to make myself sound softer/weaker/smaller so people don't get the wrong impression.

It's a little annoying, but people can't help how they react if I don't filter and fluff myself somehow, so it is what it is sadly.

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posted June 05, 2021 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pale Blue Eyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
My merc is mostly unaspected save for trine capricorn MC, and I do have moon opp mars.

I sound very aggressive and bossy when I speak sometimes, and sometimes it's just too intense and people go quiet. I have to think ahead and try to make myself sound softer/weaker/smaller so people don't get the wrong impression.

It's a little annoying, but people can't help how they react if I don't filter and fluff myself somehow, so it is what it is sadly.


The Moon contact is a good point. As I said above, I have a Mercury/Mars square going on. On top of that, my Mars trines my Moon (which also happens to conjunct my Pluto).

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posted June 07, 2021 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury in Aries
Mercury in the 1st house
Mercury/Mars aspects

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posted June 08, 2021 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a 3rd house mars and notice that specifically online i can come across as more verbally aggressive than i actually am and it really depends on the group

specifically can have trouble here sometimes but in other spaces with a different crowd i haven't encountered that issue quite the opposite people can see me as a pushover

i tend to be blunt, say exactly what i'm thinking and can lack tact which is more acceptable with some people than others

in person though people tell me i'm the most laid back person they've ever met and i rarely have issues, tone goes a long way i think when someone can hear me they're less likely to take things in ways i didn't mean

i also tend towards apathy so people mistake that for being a pushover in person, like i don't give enough of a **** to be particularly reactive in most situations or really exert my will and i don't take things personally generally because i see people's behavior as a reflection of them not me even if they're behaving negatively towards me

when people push me though they're pretty surprised 🤷‍♀️

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posted June 08, 2021 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm only aggressive when I am provoked, verbally and/ or physically. I have mercury in Scorpio conjunct Nessus. My mars also rules my 12H and is the most aspected planet in my chart.

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posted June 08, 2021 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My thoughts - not aspects yet. I'll look for a few-

- Aries can be quick, impetuous, angry and childish, if not in control of their words could be mouthy - if they do come uncorked.


- Taurus mostly seems refined but the tongue is ruled by them and bull headedness can bring a rath of locking horns, I'd say eloquently put words that might feel to the recipient as bullying.


- Gemini, the master of all communication , could be very cuting, swords are the suit for Gemini in the tarot. All air can be sharp (all of them swords).
I think reckless and rash verbal delivery IF the twin within is provoked.

- Cancer, not one I feel is. Idk, I'll possibly return to edit this one.


Leo like Aries can be clever with how or when to attack yet they have a prowess about them, the recipient might not realise until the delivery is finished, what just happened. I think cause they usually are happy and appealing visibly, it's a suprise.


- Virgo, Yes. They are mild about it but if push comes to shove, they are easy to step up to the verbal plate. Mercury will not have them come across as ugly or harsh as possibly the fire or Air. My best friend from long back would start out "let me tell you .." Once she started - sit down, there was a lot to be heard too.


- Scorpio, I have honestly never experienced this from them, as a recipient or outsider observing.

- Libra, like a Taurus, comes across gentle but rarely have I seen one very harsh.


Sagittarius, if I ever seen a tongue lashing , I think the jovial home of Jupiter can get very twisted when pushed. Aggressive
verbiage is always a potential with them - if these fun ones get too hot.


- Capricorn, not as bad as many others. They might feel it's beneath them as they perch on the mountain.

Aquarius Yes. Reckless with words, they can deliver the aggression like the dagger tongue was made for. I've done it, my friends and a few family members too. We quietly observe the reason and when had enough boom! Think of Tinkerbell and her honory mouth, furrowed brows.

Pisces, not so much. I think the Water in my experience are pretty chill.

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posted June 10, 2021 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iím not that verbally aggressive, unless you get into politics (conspiracy theories endangering the rest of us), or attack me or someone else. I used to stand up for others, more often than I did myself. I was always grounded and mature. Some people think Iím aggressive, when I disagree with them.

Aries sun/Mercury.

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posted June 10, 2021 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn tends to attack privately, those I know. They can be cruel, cold. Except for one or two that I know.

Taurus can be blunt, and also admit that they could be wrong, like me. Most of the time.. I tend to know those with planets in Aries, or Venus in Gemini. Fire ascendants. My dad used to have a temper, but he isnít mean. Another Taurus can be cruel occasionally - he pushes people away, but will also reappear and smooth things over. Dad has mars/Mercury in Aries.

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