posted January 23, 2021 06:52 AM            

I’ve noticed it in suns, risings and mercuries too. (My sister has moon + mercury). Even when they have prominent positions in more saturnian signs like capricorn or aquarius. Amazing taste in fashion and anything else visual or art, also great verbal communicatiors (great choice of words, get their point across) but by terrible judgement I mean sometimes it could be that they are sloppy with their finances, or not ask themselves anything before befriending someone or make really bad investments, especially often so in the WRONG PEOPLE. Whether materially or in relationships. I do not see very easily the influence of Saturn here. Take it from me having it in Taurus and the 8th house (cancer sun, virgo rising, cap moon). Serious sh*t. I also think Taurus is basically a better Libra cause same (same rulers no?) but minus the flaky and the fakeness.

posted January 23, 2021 12:49 PM            

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posted January 23, 2021 01:15 PM            

Being a Capricorn, most likely you have your Moon in square to one of her planets and I guess there is some Saturn involved here in hard aspect, but I'm just guessing.

I've seen Libra to be quite indecisive. But that's not making them bad people.

posted January 23, 2021 01:55 PM            

what you're describing about Libras, is what they are doing to themselves, from your point of view (to which I can partly agree a bit, except the judgement and the tone).

But what did they do to YOU to make you so angry and insulting ?
Would you like it if somebody wrote about people with your constellation,
he could smell your s*** from miles away,
specially if this 's***' was a sometimes acurring result of you just being too nice ?

What makes you so mad?
Sometimes the real reason is something totally different.

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posted January 23, 2021 06:21 PM            

8th House deals a lot with shadow--in the classic sense of the term--those most uncomfortable parts of self that we'd rather not face and shove down into the unconscious.

It often comes out in projection via judgement of others. Also, side note, strong Taurus also tends to have a "dark attraction" to those with strong Libra. Dark can mean anything from obsessive-compulsive, to push-pull, to love-hate, etc.

Did someone or someones with strong Libra hurt you deeply?

posted January 23, 2021 07:30 PM            

I really like this perspective! Very well put.
I am not a Taurus I am a Cancer.
Saturn in this position is just where this perspective is coming from.

posted January 23, 2021 07:47 PM            

i’ll take accountability for the judgement and tone part.
I do not think that libras are bad people, or that they’re sh’*tty. I said I I could smell it when it is sh*t and someone is hiding it.

posted January 23, 2021 08:01 PM            

I am not a capricorn or taurus but a Cancer.
I do understand that people are made out of many layers and are not simple masses of ego or things that either work or don’t.

And lastly, the GAG is I AM joining the libra club.
Time for my personal revolution has come in 2020 with my prog. chart. All four of the angles, following the asc progressing from virgo to 0’1 libra, have shifted into a cardinal initiation party.

Surprise
This is the only time any of my personal positions or planets have ever even approached this sign. Not even an asteroid.
I’m just wondering how does it work ya know. With all the libra many facets of libra I’ve seen.

posted January 23, 2021 08:07 PM            

Are you confusing Libra with Aquarius by any chance?
Yet, the most fitting word is "traditional" ruler and not "co-ruler".

posted January 23, 2021 08:31 PM            

I am not a capricorn or taurus but a Cancer.
I do understand that people are made out of many layers and are not simple masses of ego or things that either work or don’t.

And lastly, the GAG is I AM joining the libra club.
Time for my personal revolution has come in 2020 with my prog. chart. All four of the angles, following the asc progressing from virgo to 0’1 libra, have shifted into a cardinal initiation party.

Surprise
This is the only time any of my personal positions or planets have ever even approached this sign. Not even an asteroid.
I’m just wondering how does it work ya know. With all the libra many facets of libra I’ve seen.

posted January 23, 2021 08:32 PM            

I am not a capricorn or taurus but a Cancer.
I do understand that people are made out of many layers and are not simple masses of ego or things that either work or don’t.

And lastly, the GAG is I AM joining the libra club.
Time for my personal revolution has come in 2020 with my prog. chart. All four of the angles, following the asc progressing from virgo to 0’1 libra, have shifted into a cardinal initiation party.

Surprise
This is the only time any of my personal positions or planets have ever even approached this sign. Not even an asteroid.
I’m just wondering how does it work ya know. With all the libra many facets of libra I’ve seen.

posted January 23, 2021 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Davina98:
Librapurr,

true that I may sound arrogant & judgemental, like when I said I think Taurus is better. Before that I really did just ask what do Saturn + Libra equal. I am not saying they’re the only people that can have many flaws relating to errors of judgement. I may have made this a general assumption rather than just things that represent a degree-sensitive struggle I have had personally.
Sorry about making it general.
But I was also saying these things are quite different from what they’re always described as. different than what they usually describe them as.
Never said that one couldn’t spend on things they like.
And everyone is capable of being really judgemental but yes indeed Libra and Virgo the worst of all. Which you greatly expressed by sizing them right back (and spot on too).

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posted January 24, 2021 01:45 PM            

My English is not so great, a few expressions might therefore leed to misunderstandings.

In my perception and feeling, you do come over quite angry in many of your words, and that usually doesn't help the mind to stay clear and objective and really hear/reade what the other person sead/wrote.
The situation in a forum in the internet makes it worse :
You cannot easily ask inbetween, how or what the other meant, you cannot see his physical appearence, his aura, face expression or body language, no tone of voice, you don't know his history and culture, you cannot feel into his feelings.

So one simply assumes and reads things into the written letters, that were eighter possibly meant very different or were never written at all.

When you write something yourself, you are used to - from natural communication-situations in person - send out endlessly more signals than you are able to with your keyboard.
So you have the feeling, you expressed something, and the other person should have heard it.
Humans are not made for communicating in letters only, specially not fast and in a group of strangers, about deepgoing subjects and their feelings.

But IF you are doing it anyway, like we are here, we all have to be extremely careful about what the other person really literally wrote, and ask him/her, what he/she meant, before we assume something negative, what makes us desinterested, think the other person is not intelligent, think he is bad in any way or whatever...

I tried, when I was reading your initial post, to read exactly what you wrote, not more or less than that.
And I repeated the reading a few times, and again after you answered to my comment.

I still cannot find any sentences in your first post, where you would have mentioned in which way Libras are in your experience/oppinion doing anything that was not pleasant for you or others, except for themselves.
Please reade it again.

You critisised me for not hearing it, I should take it for what it is, and I would not just suddenly melt.

I was in my answer, in contrary to what you wrote, not saying, that Libras are exclusively always doing things against themselves, and not against others,
I was not even talking about that.
I wrote, that YOU were mentioning only what Libras are doing against themselves, in your view, and I agreed partly.

Then I asked you, what made you mad, because you showed madness and were insulting.

I have to post this now for technical reasons, although it is not finished, I will edit it.

I'm finished now without perfection for the moment.

I do like very much, that you owned up to a few points and wrote some additional points in which you relativatet something and took away some generalisations.

But not everything...
You did indeed generalize this sentence, that you can 'smell their sh** from miles away.
Please read it again.

But only in your last post, you mentioned for the first time some things, very briefly, without any explanation or examples, some things that in your view or experience Libras do to the disadvantage of others.

By the way, you also assumed, that I was a Libra.
I never said that eighter.

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posted January 24, 2021 01:49 PM            

that being said anyone can make mistakes

when i've made a mistake regarding the "wrong people" it's because i'm being fair and giving everyone a chance and not just reacting like i know how things will go

can be bad, can be good, but it's fair 🤷‍♀️

i also give people chances to grow because that's also fair, it can be the wrong choice but i'd rather be wrong giving someone else a chance than wrong shutting someone out

i have venus in libra conjunct my libra ascendant (south node conjunct too)