posted February 01, 2021 04:32 PM            

Like, was supposed to create something for someone as a favor... However, towards the very end when I was close to being done, I found myself being extremely discouraged and lacked the motivation to just complete it, although in the back of my head I was still gonna do it, just when I'm feeling better. She calls me up today as a follow up... And I start telling her the actual truth of the situation and she reacts with "you're full of ****".

Now I feel way more discouraged and in just a bad mood that I don't think I'll be able to find the motivation to finish it at all. She has the right to be upset, I've been promising her for well over a month or two... However, sometimes I genuinely just feel that I'm not able to. I don't think she's able to get it, she has a great sense of doing what's right at the right time... I don't know how to describe it, it feels that my energy is just depleted when I lack the motivation. I can't "just do it".

The main issue here is I keep on promising things to people with genuine interest I just always find myself lacking the stamina to follow through with it.

I'm not sure, I guess I'm curious how to combat it or avoid it? Does anyone else have this? Is it frequent? What do you do in such case? I almost feel that it rules my life. And most of the time I'm just too discouraged to care enough to do anything about it. Thanks!

posted February 01, 2021 05:11 PM            

If you think your mood is in a slight depression you might try some 5HTP, or an herb like Albizia (Mimosa flower) used in Chinese medicine. There are also homeopathic remedies like Kali phos that can address brain/nerve fatigue that can manifest as lack of motivation, loss of energy, or depression/anxiety. I've found Kali phos to be very reliable for this.

posted February 01, 2021 05:24 PM            

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posted February 01, 2021 05:28 PM            

In any case, it sounds like you probably have low level depression. In my experience with depression, there are potentially many variables to depression from the body to the mind/emotions to spiritual/nonphysical/energetic.

For self, it took a VERY holistic approach to get out of depression, from focusing on diet and health/exercise, to changing some outer conditions, to asking powerful spiritual sources for help in guidance and protection (from negative entities that are not typically visible to our material senses).

Also, something I realized about depression in relation to self. There was too much self centeredness. I have coined a phrase since this realization, "all self centered people tend towards depression, but not all depressed people are self centered." This btw, is why the heavy, slow vibratory Planetary symbols in astrology, like Mars, Saturn, and Pluto tend to be rather serious.

For self, I had to become more focused on others, and ideals of service to others. When you're constantly thinking about yourself, your problems, your worries, your fears, and just "I, I, I, I." it does not leave a whole lot of room for divine, Source like Love. I've found the more attuned to and channeled the latter, the more joyous and at peace I tend to be.

Anyways, I don't know what is going on specifically in your case, but I suspect it is likely fairly holistic/multi leveled to some extent. One thing you can do right away, in case it is a factor (I'm not saying it is definitively btw), is to set an intention/say a prayer with meaning, "I ask the Source, the Co-Creators, Arch Angel Michael, and the general Creative Forces to please psychically/energetically shield and protect me from any and all negative non human beings."

Eating a healthier and more whole foods and alkalizing diet can help. Doing more regular, moderate exercise--particularly long walks or jogs in nature, can help. And certain herbs like Ashwagandha can help.

Trying to figure out why you may have these psychological blocks may help. Asking for dream guidance is a very good way to start on this.

There are many things you can implement that could help. But expecting someone (or people) to figure out a likely complex issue about you, from looking at your chart on an astrology forum...likely not going to lead to real solutions.

posted February 01, 2021 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Could be moon/Saturn or a fire void. The fire void people really have to force themselves out of low spirits

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Nope. Look at her chart: Mercury in Aries, Jupiter in Leo.

This "void" notion is garbage anyway and it should be dispensed with. It promotes ideas of 'lack' in the birth chart the person cannot change.

posted February 01, 2021 09:11 PM            

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posted February 01, 2021 09:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I know what you mean. I've had a similar fatigue or malaise or apathy hit me like this across much of my adult life.

If you think your mood is in a slight depression you might try some 5HTP, or an herb like Albizia (Mimosa flower) used in Chinese medicine. There are also homeopathic remedies like Kali phos that can address brain/nerve fatigue that can manifest as lack of motivation, loss of energy, or depression/anxiety. I've found Kali phos to be very reliable for this.

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Curious what you did about it at the time? Were you productive at all? I think it mainly affects that area of my life, my productivity. The things that I feel somewhat passionate about. I get this rush of energy at first cuz I'm excited but it subsides shortly after I start it.

It might be depression... I'm not sure. I think I used to be way worse, this is just waves of emotion I guess? I'm not sure. Like now I'm doing better again lol at the time of writing this a couple of hours ago I felt horrible. So I'm not sure if it's depression.

posted February 01, 2021 09:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Could be moon/Saturn or a fire void. The fire void people really have to force themselves out of low spirits

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But Mercury in Aries is my chart ruler! 😭

posted February 01, 2021 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Has this increased in the last year or so?

In any case, it sounds like you probably have low level depression. In my experience with depression, there are potentially many variables to depression from the body to the mind/emotions to spiritual/nonphysical/energetic.

For self, it took a VERY holistic approach to get out of depression, from focusing on diet and health/exercise, to changing some outer conditions, to asking powerful spiritual sources for help in guidance and protection (from negative entities that are not typically visible to our material senses).

Also, something I realized about depression in relation to self. There was too much self centeredness. I have coined a phrase since this realization, "all self centered people tend towards depression, but not all depressed people are self centered." This btw, is why the heavy, slow vibratory Planetary symbols in astrology, like Mars, Saturn, and Pluto tend to be rather serious.

For self, I had to become more focused on others, and ideals of service to others. When you're constantly thinking about yourself, your problems, your worries, your fears, and just "I, I, I, I." it does not leave a whole lot of room for divine, Source like Love. I've found the more attuned to and channeled the latter, the more joyous and at peace I tend to be.

Anyways, I don't know what is going on specifically in your case, but I suspect it is likely fairly holistic/multi leveled to some extent. One thing you can do right away, in case it is a factor (I'm not saying it is definitively btw), is to set an intention/say a prayer with meaning, "I ask the Source, the Co-Creators, Arch Angel Michael, and the general Creative Forces to please psychically/energetically shield and protect me from any and all negative non human beings."

Eating a healthier and more whole foods and alkalizing diet can help. Doing more regular, moderate exercise--particularly long walks or jogs in nature, can help. And certain herbs like Ashwagandha can help.

Trying to figure out why you may have these psychological blocks may help. Asking for dream guidance is a very good way to start on this.

There are many things you can implement that could help. But expecting someone (or people) to figure out a likely complex issue about you, from looking at your chart on an astrology forum...likely not going to lead to real solutions.

And the fact of the matter is, because of the state of the world, many people are experiencing psychological issues more than usual. That's a whole other complex and multi leveled topic in and of itself, but I'm sure that this is a factor. While you have some introvert indications in your chart, you also have some definite extrovert indications/patterns, and these pandemic conditions are especially hard on those that lean to the extrovert side of the spectrum.

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I think it was always part of my life, but I never noticed it as much till lately (past 3 or so years) when I quit my job in order to do my "own thing". Which is when I realized I don't have the stamina to. I start a lot of "projects", but it always gets stuck after x amount of time cuz of my loss of interest/motivation to continue. And now that I decided that a job is the only thing that'll keep my schedule in check I became depressed again cuz of my failed attempt to go solo.

I know exercise will help, every time I finally "do it" I feel so much better. Just, when you're lacking interest it's difficult to get interested exercising if you know what I mean.

Which is why I agree with you, I think a holistic approach would be best. Spiritually as well as physically.

I think you're on point with the self centeredness. I've been thinking about it a lot lately that I'm rather selfish and have to make a conscious choice to act differently. It's certainly difficult cuz I'm wired this way lol. Lately at least I'm aware of it so I don't allow it to happen as easily.

However, I'm not sure if that is the cause to my low moods. It may be I'm just not aware? It's just I feel that I'm wasting my life if you know what I mean? There's so much extra time and I'm not doing anything "actually" even though my interests may be there. I'm just allowing my days to pass me by.

Thank you for the advice 🙏 I'll look into the stuff you mentioned.

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posted February 01, 2021 10:23 PM            

motivation in the beginning not motivation after, for various reasons really

i recommend not making promises this way you disappoint no one but yourself

posted February 01, 2021 11:50 PM            

I think what makes it worse is your Mars opposite Neptune. You have a lot of ideas in your head but you don’t carry them through. Also I think the SN conjunction on your Mars drains its energy.

posted February 02, 2021 12:47 AM            

Were you aware that for the past year you've been building up to the experience of your 1st Saturn Return?

You have Saturn in Aquarius 6.50, H9?

First conjunction of "Saturn to Saturn" happens next Sunday.
Transiting Saturn is 5.25 Aquarius as I write this. Important to go with the flow..

This is a MAJOR transit. Study it.

TRANSIT SCHEDULE
Saturn in Aquarius 6+
* Sunday, Feb 7 2021 to Tues, Feb 16 2021.
.. The week before, and week afterwards

New Moon in Aquarius 23.17 on Thurs Feb 11

* RETROGRADE revisit
Wedn, Sept 29 2021 rx to
STATION Direct Mond Oct 11 2021
Continuing Direct through
Sund, Oct 24 2021
.. The week before and week afterwards

You won't clear the transit
until this time next year,
e.o. January 2022.

10degrees past your Saturn's degree.

{Your chart has similar features to several people I knew who worked in some way touching the field of Law.}

You might read up on Saturn Returns,
and how to work with it.

Like...
Go on a trip to enlarge your sense of your world
Learn a new language or some cultural skills
Study a religion and see what that lifestyle is like for a while

Can you go free-lance with your job skills?
Travel while you do it?
(9th/3rd Axis)

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extracts from...
Stephen Arroyo (c1978,1992)
Astrology, Karma, & Transformation
pp 98-99

House IX: 9th
Saturn's transit of the 9th house is primarily a period of assimilating many years' experiences and relating them to some meaningful ideal, philosophy, or regimen of self-improvement.
It is common for people to embark upon a rather structured journey toward gaining greater breadth of understanding at this time, whether through actual physical travel, academic training, attending lectures or church services, or solely through concentrated individual study.
I have seen cases where the person actually combined more than one of these possibilities,
e.g., by going to school in a foreign country.
Basically, this is a time to investigate and define your ultimate beliefs, whether those leanings take you into a philosophy, a religion, metaphysical studies, or legal or social theories.
Your beliefs need to be defined during this time because they will hereafter serve as 'ideals' which guide your life and illuminate your self-direction.
. .
It is, in short, a time when most people have a strong urge toward self-improvement.
For some, this means that they should bring their lives into alignment with a higher ideal.
For other, it means that they feel the need to travel about the world or to study diverse subjects, in order to achieve a wider perspective on their lives.
And for still others, particularly those who tend to accept socially-defined notions of what it means to improve oneself, it is a time when they begin or at least commit themselves more deeply to an academic training program.
It is an excellent period for the serious application of one's mental energies,
and it is commonly a time when one's ambitions related to influencing others through teaching, lecturing, or publications are consolidated in some definite way.
It should also be noted that the 9th house is the 12th from the 10th; hence, it represents 'the results' of how you've worked toward gaining your ambitions, manifesting either as restlessness and dissatisfaction or as simply realizing that you need to work harder now at expressing the knowledge that has been gained from past accomplishments or vocational activities.
This transit period is also a preparation for the ensuing 10th house phase in the sense of 'what ambitions' you seek to accomplish then will depend greatly on the 'ideals' to which you commit yourself now.

- http://www.amazon.com/Astrology-Karma-Transformation-2nd-Ed/dp/0916360547

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Arroyo,_Stephen

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posted February 02, 2021 05:27 AM            

Transiting Nep 18 is square Asc in Gem 22. Heightened emotional up/down motions. Great imagination. But also great restlessness and not to mention fatigue.

Add to that the opposition to Mars in Cancer. Every little molehill seems to be a mountain.The oppositional force of Pluto has you motivated &energized one day.Then slumped on the couch and feeling like you don't want to move a muscle the next.

Oppositional aspects are ususally a huge challenge because it feels like "what's the point?" Most times because of the momentous force that you imagine is there to impede your efforts.

Take the remedial advice of Kannon.It could help boost your energy levels. And as a Nep Sun conj natally myself, I would say work the hardest in the morning.

Make sure you wake early and set aside time to do what you can. You don't have to finish it on that day. But I find early morning is when my energy is at its peak.

Also, dojt promise people fixed dates. Avoid that. Say rather "Give me until Friday 4pm"- spacing it out to a week. Then when you perform earlier than expected. They are presently surprised.

Neptune tends to not like schedules though. So it'll be a little tricky for you.

posted February 03, 2021 08:23 AM            

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posted February 03, 2021 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
What is never completed cannot be evaluated/judged by others.

Perfectionism and fear of failing/being judged is at the root of this problem ... and that root will almost certainly be buried deep in the fertile soil of childhood events/conditioning.

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i've let people check out and judge unfinished things, so that doesnt seem to be the root of the issue with me

i just hit a wall where that's it

when i get in the zone i can work on something endlessly not sleep or take breaks etc and then i just lose it and cant usually pick it back up cant force it either

i don't think it's necessarily about perfectionism at all, could be in her case i suppose but i have a similar issue and that's not it

posted February 04, 2021 06:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i've let people check out and judge unfinished things, so that doesnt seem to be the root of the issue with me

i just hit a wall where that's it

when i get in the zone i can work on something endlessly not sleep or take breaks etc and then i just lose it and cant usually pick it back up cant force it either

i don't think it's necessarily about perfectionism at all, could be in her case i suppose but i have a similar issue and that's not it

nothing will ever be perfect best to shoot for making the mistakes forgettable and everything else stand out or on point

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