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MonteCristo
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posted February 10, 2021 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At what point do we feel the effects of a planet approaching the cusp of a house? For instance, if an outer planet is in the 7th house, 2 degrees away from the 8th, will we already feel it's 8th house effects? Will the 7th house flavor be slowly diminishing? Is the cusp of a house an actual point that a planet can be conjunct with, or is the effect of a planet in the house only felt once it passes that 0 degree mark?

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posted February 10, 2021 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ime, it is much like the issue of Sign cusping.

In both cases, there are these "blended" areas, much like on a color wheel. Just like on a color wheel and with frequency/wavelength of colored light, you don't jump from one color to another, but gradually blend/merge and then phase into another.

As to exact distance that this takes place, I feel fairly comfortable in going with a 7* approaching rule of thumb for most cases and for various reasons.

It gets even a little more complex in some situations though. For example, in my chart, the Sun rules my ASC and thus is considered, in classical terms, my "chart ruler" (doesn't mean it's the strongest/most highlighted planet by default though--that is a misconception, just means that it's a very receptive/sensitive symbol, and anything connected to it gets amplified. This is especially so since it is also the Sun).

Anyways, I have Sun pretty much right on my 6th House cusp (depending on the House system, it is either slightly in the 5th or slightly in the 6th).

But on the other hand, it is conjunct Mercury within 7.5 degrees, and Mercury is more firmly within the 5th House (from most House systems).

How it works out, is that I feel and notice both Mercury and Sun in both the 6th and 5th House areas simultaneously. For the Sun, there is a bit more emphasis on the 6th overall and for Mercury there is a bit more emphasis on the 5th overall. But there is a lot of blending and merging going on. I definitely notice/feel Sun in the 5th as well.

Then look for underlying, supporting patterns, which we can find in this case. For example, both the Signs Leo and Virgo are quite highlighted in my chart simultaneously. These are the Signs that have a loose, archetypal connection to these two Houses.

Then, Saturn rules my 6th House (via Cap cusp), and Jupiter rules my 5th House (via Sag cusp). Perhaps not "coincidentally" then, Saturn primarily rules Capricorn, and it just so happens that Capricorn is my strongest Sign energy by far, and at the same time, Jupiter is perhaps my 1st or 2nd strongest Planetary energy.

See, deeper, repeating patterns. Always look to see if you can see such patterns. When you do, then you know that you're seeing a particularly dominant and important dynamic.

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MonteCristo
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posted February 10, 2021 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s never black and white with astrology, is it?
I particularly was interested in transits, when a planet is approaching the cusp of a house. What are your thoughts on that? I guess it would be similar what you said in regards to the natal chart. I’m just so sick of my Uranus in 7th 😂. I know maybe 8th can become even more problematic, but Uranus, once in the 8th, will conjunct moon.

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posted February 10, 2021 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No matter how sick you have become with having the 7th house transit of Uranus, make sure that you have learned the lesson(s) of it's passage through there BEFORE it enters the 8th.

Think of one degree either side of the 8th house cusp as being a door between two adjoining rooms (7th + 8th), with you about to leave the 7th to enter the 8th. If you have not learned the lessons of the 7th, it is akin to leaving an unextinguished cigarette still burning in that room. Hence, you cannot (yet) SAFELY enter the 8th house.

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posted February 10, 2021 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
No matter how sick you have become with having the 7th house transit of Uranus, make sure that you have learned the lesson(s) of it's passage through there BEFORE it enters the 8th.

Think of one degree either side of the 8th house cusp as being a door between two adjoining rooms (7th + 8th), with you about to leave the 7th to enter the 8th. If you have not learned the lessons of the 7th, it is akin to leaving an unextinguished cigarette still burning in that room. Hence, you cannot (yet) SAFELY enter the 8th house.


Graham, thank you. Yes, I believe I have learned a lot over these last few years, especially in this last year. I now want to create a beautiful love and a safe home (metaphorically speaking) rather than simply doubt and feel insecure and thus withhold love until I feel theirs.
One lesson among many.

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posted February 11, 2021 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MonteCristo:
Graham, thank you. Yes, I believe I have learned a lot over these last few years, especially in this last year. I now want to create a beautiful love and a safe home (metaphorically speaking) rather than simply doubt and feel insecure and thus withhold love until I feel theirs.
One lesson among many.

Your personal level of sensitivity to Uranus transits will determine how close it will be to the 8th cusp when you begin to feel it's influence in that house.

And you can determine that by ascertaining how close transit Uranus was to your 7th cusp when you began to feel it's influence in that house.

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posted February 11, 2021 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
Your personal level of sensitivity to Uranus transits will determine how close it will be to the 8th cusp when you begin to feel it's influence in that house.

And you can determine that by ascertaining how close transit Uranus was to your 7th cusp when you began to feel it's influence in that house.


Checking back on my transits, I began noticing it about 3 degrees before it entered the house.

However, a question: a planet’s influence acts on us whether we “notice” it, or are aware of it, right? So whether I noticed it or not, wouldn’t it be playing out some way in my life regardless?

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posted February 11, 2021 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me it's when the transiting planet touches the ruler of that house or the planet in that house.

The ruler of my 10th is Saturn.The stell of Moon/Sun/Merc/Ven/Jup/Sat is transiting my 10th. Some of the planets squaring my Saturn(Sco).

I feel pressure to appear before the public in some respect. Or do something career oriented.Mind you right now, I am still unemployed.🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted February 11, 2021 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MonteCristo:
Checking back on my transits, I began noticing it about 3 degrees before it entered the house.

However, a question: a planet’s influence acts on us whether we “notice” it, or are aware of it, right? So whether I noticed it or not, wouldn’t it be playing out some way in my life regardless?



YES! ... YES! ... YES! ... Understanding THAT (as you clearly do) is the key to increasing our personal sensitivity to astrological influences.

So, you should have been noticing the 8th house influence of transit Uranus when it reached 3 degrees before the cusp. ... But, it will have been influencing you before then - and now you have an opportunity to determine if your sensitivity has increased to (say) 4 degrees.

[You will probably find this difficult to believe, but :-
My 8th house cusp is at 23Aries17 ... and my wife/7th-house-partner was made redundant/had-her-income-reduced when Uranus finally entered 0Aries00 on 12th March 2011. ... So, I felt the influence of transit Uranus in the second-house-from-the-7th some 23 degrees before the 8th house cusp. ... (However, my 7th cusp is at 29Pisces57 - so the transit of Uranus over that was the dominant influence.]

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posted February 11, 2021 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Graham, do you have any planets in your 8th house? If so, were any transits happening to that planet around the time of your wife’s income reduction?

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posted February 11, 2021 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No planets in 8th ... but natal Uranus and Jupiter respectively on 29deg29 MC and IC ... With both activated by squares from transit Uranus at 00Aries00.

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posted February 11, 2021 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should add that for transits, I don't use as wide as a cusping/conjoining orb as with natal. If it's approaching an Angle, I'll go up to 5 degrees or so (this is similar with Jupiter, Saturn, ASC ruler, etc), but with the other House cusps, 3 degrees or so is more appropriate.

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posted February 15, 2021 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the input and information!

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posted February 15, 2021 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MonteC ~ Are you asking sbout transit Uranus to your 7th?

I think you're feeling your intuitive side more these days and with others, as you recently acted upon in a "sudden" and bold heart move - by seeing someone, with suprise. The Uranus energy, there may bring them (suprises) to you and through you in terms of "others". In tarot this is like the Fool + Empress. Your experiences might be more random/unexpected and fresh/creative and Less thinking (as in too much) - more feeling. The heart center is lively and + lightning bolt has renewed the area of the "other". You'll be seen attractive to another, with your ability to jump right in "heart first". Just be wary to guard your heart during this transit. As well go within and understand what/who your heart yearns for.
As you already know this is great energy for newness, yet not a stability energy. I wonder what your Saturn energy is up to?

- if it is not another romantically connected with you, you'll likely be spontaneous and willing to jump into projects but could easily leave them too.

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posted February 15, 2021 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Moon!

Lovely to hear from you!

Yes, my Uranus is leaving the 7th in about two months or so! It definitely did bring the unexpected. My Saturn is in the 4th right now! Should be there for the next year or so!

Hope you’re staying warm in the chilly chilly weather! 🥶

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posted February 15, 2021 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MonteCristo:
Hi Moon!

Lovely to hear from you!

Yes, my Uranus is leaving the 7th in about two months or so! It definitely did bring the unexpected. My Saturn is in the 4th right now! Should be there for the next year or so!

Hope you’re staying warm in the chilly chilly weather! 🥶


Hey MC
Do you feel the Saturn energy?

(a few notes I have on this energy)

Uranus in the 8th can bring ends to contracts (marital) and finsh up Wills. I hope not but if a loved one passes, this transit could reflect you inheriting their earthly goods. Contracts might need resolution in this period. Money once owed to you could materialize. some obscure reading it might be wise to beware of toxins eith this transit.


We are warming up. Whew. It got so cold. Over 10 inches of both ice and Snow. Hope you're doing well? Heard from "him"?

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posted February 15, 2021 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey MC
Do you feel the Saturn energy?

(a few notes I have on this energy)

Uranus in the 8th can bring ends to contracts (marital) and finsh up Wills. I hope not but if a loved one passes, this transit could reflect you inheriting their earthly goods. Contracts might need resolution in this period. Money once owed to you could materialize. some obscure reading it might be wise to beware of toxins with this transit.


We are warming up. Whew. It got so cold. Over 10 inches of both ice and Snow. Hope you're doing well? Heard from "him"?


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posted February 16, 2021 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Hey MC
Do you feel the Saturn energy?

(a few notes I have on this energy)

Uranus in the 8th can bring ends to contracts (marital) and finsh up Wills. I hope not but if a loved one passes, this transit could reflect you inheriting their earthly goods. Contracts might need resolution in this period. Money once owed to you could materialize. some obscure reading it might be wise to beware of toxins eith this transit.


We are warming up. Whew. It got so cold. Over 10 inches of both ice and Snow. Hope you're doing well? Heard from "him"?


Ahh yes, Uranus. The genius who knows! It will be conjunct my moon in 8th house in a little while, too. I think I feel the Saturn energy, yes... I am making serious plans about moving. Pluto is also in my 4th house (the current Aquarius stellium is in the 4th), too. Had I not gone back to school I would’ve been gone from this city three years ago! But then, I wouldn’t have met “him”.

I have not heard from him. He was pretty final. But, he’s final in his words, not his heart. That’s just what I feel. Not sure if you saw my reply in the other thread entitled “@MoonMystic” but yes, he definitely feels for me. But he had his heart so hell bent on everything going smoothly that he left no room for imperfection or misunderstanding, and voila, here we are. He said he thought that I only loved him after he left, and I think he’s gone back to that original perception. So my grand gesture and going to see him a few weeks ago, I think when he originally was thrilled and wanted to continue where we left off, has now gone back to the idea that I only felt this strongly because he left, and therefore, that it isn’t “true” love. Oh boy. I want to slap him straight 😂 All that darn suspicious natal Scorpio in his chart (Sun, merc, Mars, Pluto, all in 4th). His tr Saturn is also square his sun, Saturn just crossed the descendant, and Uranus is square ASC right now. I’m just going to go with the flow...if the divine sees it fit to make our paths cross again, I won’t fight it but I will give him space right now and focus on myself and being grateful for this beautiful life! It’s all we can really do, isn’t it?

10 inches of snow? Omg. Have you been driving or staying at home? We’ve had about 6 inches and it’s been freezing! A lot of people without electricity, too! Texas was not prepared for this 😂

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posted February 17, 2021 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The beginning of Uranus in my 11th house, I would be so bummed out if a friend bailed with their plans on me. The beginning of Uranus being in my 12th house had me saying "Thank God!" if a friend bailed on their plans with me most of the time.

Neptune has been swinging in and out of my 10th and 11th house for years. It's confusing to know what house to blame Neptune if I do not know where my 11th house begins. (I already forgot! I thinks it's 20 degees or 17 degrees...!) But that has totally been a theme. I need more boundaries with friends do to making my career goals come true! I have been dealing with a friend being overly attached, testing every boundary I establish. While acting like she is totally cool with me paying less attention. For example I tell her I can't talk this weekend and what does she do? Starts texting in a group text I am a part of....Like "good job!", now I really don't want to talk to ya. Anyways it's been in my 11th house for good now. Currently I am not up for anything new socially with people but it seems like a "clean house time" in my group of friends. I'll have to see how the rest of this plays out...I know the 11th house can relate to unpredictability.

I feel like I was dealing with 9th house stuff before pluto and saturn entered my 9th house. I just realized my 9th house begins at 23 degrees capricorn. I decided to go for my bachelors in March 2018.

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