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Topic: T-Square Help??
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peachyboo Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Nov 2020
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posted March 13, 2021 03:16 PM
Hi All!So I was studying my natal chart and saw I have a T-square including; North Node in 17° Cancer Mars in 17° Libra MC in 15° Capricorn There is so little on T-squares so I was wondering if anyone could interpret this for me? What does it mean? How would it affect me? What does it affect? Thanks! IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 518 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted March 13, 2021 03:28 PM
I usually don't count T-Squares between angels only planets. But in your case we can see the North Node is conjunct the fourth house so that means career is held back in some way. Mars is in Libra its fall, so that means you feel you cannot act on situations sometimes in the way you would like. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 74001 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 13, 2021 06:45 PM
T squares are thwarts between planets and houses. You have to work around like we have to work around something physical for example. If someone has a flaw,they have to find ways to overcome it so it presents certain obstacles ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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peachyboo Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Nov 2020
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posted March 13, 2021 11:01 PM
Thanks for the info! I didn't know that about the angles. I actually have another T- Square with;Mercury in 28° Scorpio ( in 7th house) Juno in 24° Aquarius ( 11th house) Saturn in 26° Taurus ( 1st house) Moon in 27° Aquarius (11th house) any thoughts? IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2624 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted March 14, 2021 12:23 AM
All T-squares have (what is known as) a "point of resolution", whose Sabian Symbol provides a clue about how to resolve the issue created by the T-square.That point is the zodiac degree which opposes the apex planet ... So, opposite Moon in the Mercury-Saturn-Moon figure and Mars in the North Node-MC-Mars figure. However, the allowable-orbs for the North Node-MC-Mars figure should be very small (and preferably exact) - because neither the angles nor the moon nodes "emit light". ... Whereas "standard" orbs can be allowed for the Mercury-Saturn-Moon figure - because planets do "emit light". [Lynda Hill's Sabian Symbol interpretations can be found at [http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/ ... but be sure to look up the correct zodiac degree.] ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ athenegoddess has already identified the likely issue of your North Node-MC-Mars T-square ... And I'd suggest that Mars in Libra may indicate you are learning to be assertive in this lifetime, so a lack-of-assertiveness may be the reason why you sometimes cannot act on situations in the way you would like. With the other T-square, Mercury in Scorpio/7th might make you wary of trusting "intimate others"; Saturn in Taurus/1st could make you instinctively/habitually/naturally "possessive" and those two issues could combine to create moon-in-Aquarius/11th problems with women in social situations. BUT ... note that natal Mars is 130 degrees from natal Moon, and thus connecting these two T-squares (and their issues) via a 36th harmonic aspect*. [ * 36th harmonic aspect = skill/fluent-action ... So, the issues of these two T-squares are probably manifesting together "as one". ... For example, a lack of assertiveness could create social problems with women. ... Thus, I guess the most likely scenario there could be a female who suspects her partner might be unfaithful BUT (instead of assertively confronting that fear with him) handles it by driving other women away from him during social gatherings. ... And, in that particular scenario, the Taurus Saturn fear would be manifesting as "possessiveness" - perhaps with the resolution points of the two T-squares suggesting a need to overcome a childhood event/trauma which created that fear.] IP: Logged |
peachyboo Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Nov 2020
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posted March 16, 2021 03:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Graham: All T-squares have (what is known as) a "point of resolution", whose Sabian Symbol provides a clue about how to resolve the issue created by the T-square.That point is the zodiac degree which opposes the apex planet ... So, opposite Moon in the Mercury-Saturn-Moon figure and Mars in the North Node-MC-Mars figure. However, the allowable-orbs for the North Node-MC-Mars figure should be very small (and preferably exact) - because neither the angles nor the moon nodes "emit light". ... Whereas "standard" orbs can be allowed for the Mercury-Saturn-Moon figure - because planets do "emit light". [Lynda Hill's Sabian Symbol interpretations can be found at [http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/ ... but be sure to look up the correct zodiac degree.] ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ athenegoddess has already identified the likely issue of your North Node-MC-Mars T-square ... And I'd suggest that Mars in Libra may indicate you are learning to be assertive in this lifetime, so a lack-of-assertiveness may be the reason why you sometimes cannot act on situations in the way you would like. With the other T-square, Mercury in Scorpio/7th might make you wary of trusting "intimate others"; Saturn in Taurus/1st could make you instinctively/habitually/naturally "possessive" and those two issues could combine to create moon-in-Aquarius/11th problems with women in social situations. BUT ... note that natal Mars is 130 degrees from natal Moon, and thus connecting these two T-squares (and their issues) via a 36th harmonic aspect*. [ * 36th harmonic aspect = skill/fluent-action ... So, the issues of these two T-squares are probably manifesting together "as one". ... For example, a lack of assertiveness could create social problems with women. ... Thus, I guess the most likely scenario there could be a female who suspects her partner might be unfaithful BUT (instead of assertively confronting that fear with him) handles it by driving other women away from him during social gatherings. ... And, in that particular scenario, the Taurus Saturn fear [b]would be manifesting as "possessiveness" - perhaps with the resolution points of the two T-squares suggesting a need to overcome a childhood event/trauma which created that fear.][/B]
Wow that's really accurate I've had problems with women my whole life or rather they've always had a problem with me, I'm talking since I was 4 years old. In the situation about my partner being unfaithful honestly I would just leave all together I would never bother trying to go after the women I would let that person be unfaithful and remove myself completely from the situation and relationship. And if it was just fear and all in my head I don't even think I would be in a relationship if there wasn't solid trust but I can see how that reaction could take place. Thank You! IP: Logged |
nowonders Knowflake Posts: 35 From: china Registered: Jan 2021
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posted March 18, 2021 08:43 AM
hi can someone help with mine? Gemini jupiter in 3rd house + saturn in 2nd house Virgo mars in 6th house Sagittarius Pluto + chiron in 9th house as it affects all malefic planets i wonder if it's extra hard to get over. then again i know it makes some tension that may eventually lead to success? i just want to get some good use out of it tho IP: Logged |
eloquent.__.sky Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Jan 2021
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posted March 19, 2021 05:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by nowonders: hi can someone help with mine? Gemini jupiter in 3rd house + saturn in 2nd house Virgo mars in 6th house Sagittarius Pluto + chiron in 9th house as it affects all malefic planets i wonder if it's extra hard to get over. then again i know it makes some tension that may eventually lead to success? i just want to get some good use out of it tho
You definitely can, As an example Jupiter/Saturn hard aspects are present in charts of financially successful people. Just watch out for occasional blue feelings and fight them off with extra work effort. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ instagram: @eloquent__sky IP: Logged |
nowonders Knowflake Posts: 35 From: china Registered: Jan 2021
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posted March 20, 2021 03:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by eloquent.__.sky: You definitely can, As an example Jupiter/Saturn hard aspects are present in charts of financially successful people. Just watch out for occasional blue feelings and fight them off with extra work effort. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ instagram: @eloquent__sky
thank you so much since it's related to saturn mars i'll feel the stress and hard-to-act, but the houses and signs (mutable) seem to relate to work & knowledge so i guess it's easier to work on for me. IP: Logged |
eloquent.__.sky Newflake Posts: 14 From: Registered: Jan 2021
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posted March 20, 2021 02:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by nowonders: thank you so much since it's related to saturn mars i'll feel the stress and hard-to-act, but the houses and signs (mutable) seem to relate to work & knowledge so i guess it's easier to work on for me.
You're very welcome, by the way Saturn and Mars are naturally great together in both a natal chart and a synastry (relationship). It is an aspect that certainly has its own challenges, but it's one of those good ones to have! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ chart reading feedback on instagram: @eloquent__sky
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