posted March 18, 2021 02:35 PM            

So here is the Sabian Symbol:

"A Woman Just Risen From The Sea; A Seal Is Embracing Her."

I feel really connected to that proverb or w/e. It feels like finding another piece of who I am & what I am here for. Like the picture is becoming more and more clear. Like I recognize it from a past life so long ago. Its so vivid but its all over the place too. This lifetime is when my Atlantean Karma is ready to manifest. This is a journey we are all on as a collective right now.

But anyway, its symbolic for something. Water is my element. I love it, its like being home. Watching the water is hypnotic to me. I never leave home without a water bottle, its more of a comfort thing than anything else, like i just feel better if its there. I've started panicking the few occasions I've forgot to grab one & will turn into the nearest gas station to get one. I'd have fish tanks..fish tanks everywhere! My chart is made up of 60% water & I have a Pisces signature so yeah...I love my water.

I interpreted it as several ways. Seal could be taken as being the animal or it could be a metaphor for sealing something. Like my fate is sealed. My beloved puppy is a 1yo blue nose pitbull I've had since she was 8weeks old. My sister and her crew would refer to her as a little baby seal, always calling her that. I was just like w/e but I thought of my dog when reading seal.

The spiritual symbolic meaning of seals (animal) is this:

"People with the Seal totem are highly imaginative and very creative. Moreover, they need activities that channel and direct their imagination and creativity. For these folks, hearing and balance are also essential. They have to learn to listen to their inner self and balance their lives to it. People with this spirit animal have dreams that are very significant and vivid."

Yep I check all those boxes. Seals also represent friendship, love relationships, truth & integrity. Building a successful business. Just a nice symbol overall, brings us positive changes. Idk how could a seal be seen as bad though, they're cute little things with a good reputation.

Idk..I just thought that was cool. What do you all have to say regarding these?

I love that there are so many people on this forum that are incredibly knowledgeable and have alot to contribute to astrology. I have always learned something new each time I look at a chart, but here is like overwhelming. I have been on 2 other forums throughout the years & they were rather weak crowds. I often felt like I was some sort of astrological genius but on here I'm like geez idk anything. Very talented astrologers here. Everyone's a teacher & a student & brings something. I've learned from people who have been studying most of their lives, 40,50 years. I have also learned new things from people 5 days into the subject. Lol I just wanted to mention that. I like this crowd the best. We are a strong bunch.

Also... in ol' Trumpy's draco chart, he has his sun @ 2° Aries

"The Cameo Profile Of A Man, Suggesting The Shape Of His Country."

posted March 20, 2021 11:56 AM            

What?? I gotta go check out the different versions now? @_@ Humans always gotta be complicating things & stuff.

@Teasel

Thanks! I bookmarked that sheet. I'll be checking it out at some point.

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posted March 22, 2021 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

I always look first at Lynda Hill's Sabian Symbol interpretations, as they are easy to look-up ...

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Graham.. her "interpretations" are not to the Sabian symbols.

She uses her own "Images".

Symbols: The "Sabian" set of images were very 'specific' and created by E.Wheeler/ME Jones, 1925.

Interpretations: Other people have come along and made "interpretations" OF the Sabian Symbols. But the SABIAN symbols are 'the same set of symbolic pictures' to EACH degree.

Lynda Hill has Created her OWN symbols, with interpretations ON 'her' system of symbols. For her to call her own images the "Sabian" images is not correct.

She may have honestly mixed up what the definition of 'Sabian' is. She might have thought Sabian means imagining your own set of symbols for 360 degree wheel.

I LIKE her system--- but it's not the Sabian set of imaged symbols. (She mixed up what word 'Sabian' is.)

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The Origin and History of the Sabian Symbols
by Diana E. Roche
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On some unrecorded date in 1925, the Sabian symbols were brought into manifestation in the span of a day in Balboa Park, San Diego, California through the combined efforts of Marc Edmund Jones and Elsie Wheeler.
See full article
- http://sabian.org/sabian_symbols.php

Dr. Marc Edmund Jones
(Oct. 1, 1888 - March 5, 1980)
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Jones,_Marc_Edmund

The Sabian Assembly
Since October 17, 1923..
is an organized practicing belief-philosophy group.
For more information about them,
see this page, and Links.
They are still taking in new members.
- http://sabian.org/sabian_assembly.php

posted March 23, 2021 02:53 AM            

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Symbols: The "Sabian" set of images were very 'specific' and created by E.Wheeler/ME Jones, 1925.

Interpretations: Other people have come along and made "interpretations" OF the Sabian Symbols. But the SABIAN symbols are 'the same set of symbolic pictures' to EACH degree.

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posted March 23, 2021 08:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

I always look first at Lynda Hill's Sabian Symbol interpretations, as they are easy to look-up ... http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/

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posted March 23, 2021 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Originally posted by mirage :-

Yes, mirage ... but I look at Marc Edmund Jones interpretations after those of Lynda Hill, because I find her's less cryptic than his.

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What you said 'means something' ~~
(that I discuss at the end of this post)

But what I'm saying primarily is that she is not interpreting the 'Sabian-set' of symbols. She has created the 'Lynda-Hill' Symbolic System. Her interpretations are hers, derived from 'her own' imaginative channeled-work.

If you read the story of 'how' the Sabian-Set of images were channeled, you can get a feel for how much Jones had to pull the images out of Wheeler using inordinate efforts. {Like old adage of pulling teeth?} And in the narrative, the author said Jones & Wheeler still weren't sure about accuracy of some of the images when they were nearing completion. As a result, they relied on serendipity inviting some others to come up with suggestions to fill in those blanks. LOL ... And yet, we rely on each one of those images to be real and true, and people make 'decisions' for their lives BASED on this.

Lynda Hill Imagery System
Perhaps Lynda Hill created hers with much less disruption, enabling her channeling to flow with more ease. The result was that it made 'the garment' of her wheel system produce a better fit?
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I'm not sure of that because I didn't come across any article or blog post where she described 'how' the images came through for her. {If you find it, please leave URL. I'd love to know the backstory!}

Jones & Wheeler's images (the 'Sabian' set) were 'interpreted' in ways that made the images move as-within a 'process'.
(i.e.) Dane Rudhyar used the symbols as describing a step by step process of unfolding Consciousness, in the evolution of humankind. evolutionary path of 'consciousness'.
(i.e.) James Burgess is a Sufi teacher, and using the Sabian System of images, and adding-to Rudyar's interpretations, he applied wisdoms from his Sufi background, furthering the understanding of these with some much-deeper (practical) teachings on life, being human, and connection with the Divine.

Your suggesting that Lynda was less cryptic, might be an indicator-- her new symbols might be part of the 'next evolution' in this Image/Symbol system.

Sabian was 1925~1950.
Hill is 2015~2021? (Depending on when she did these.)

It is also to her great advantage that she-herself not only channeled the symbols, but was able directly to cleanly give her own interpretation.

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Chanterelle's suggestion made me chuckle. ty *ahem*

RULE: You MUST round UP.
Degrees are 'whole' degrees 1 through 30.

* Rudhyar makes your own brain be responsible to remember it-- you do that piece of math yourself.

* Burgess will give you the "degree-span."
(i.e.) Choosing 0-1 = will get you the interpretation for "1" degree. If you have an Aries 0.45 planet/lumin/point, there's less brain work involved, if you are merely able to identify where your number falls in the correct 'span'.
Choose 7-8 degrees if your planet has a number over 7+.

* Lynda Hill uses the advantage of the modern day computer to DO all of that simple calculating FOR you.

Computers were available only to the 'few' in the eras that founders Wheeler-Jones, and Dane Rudhyar did their beginning work.

I hope Lynda realizes her own value, and names the Image-System after herself. I'm sure that took a TON of original work! (Even if it was drafted from the idea of putting 'an image' to each degree of the zodiac, SHE is the one who did all that work-- and then ALSO added interpretations for each one, in some meaningful way.)

As a Woman!-- This would help her establish her own work, as standing-apart from the Sabian-set of Images.
{Go Lynda!}

posted March 23, 2021 01:55 PM            

My own view is that the symbols act like a crystal ball for those of us who use them ... focusing us upon whatever they mean to ourself (specifically) at a particular moment in time.

posted March 25, 2021 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I jumped fwd a degree with my Moon.
Which Graham, I now wonder if it was my Sun deg I gave you in another thread. Was so sleepy ... anyway My heart thumps hard when I read my Moon Sabian. It is beautiful.

PHASE 320: (AQUARIUS 20°): A LARGE WHITE DOVE BEARING A MESSAGE. http://mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20%20Mandala%20-%20Aquarius%2016-30.htm

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