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VeronicaNicole
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posted March 30, 2021 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Online Weirdos


So..in a nutshell...Some dude I never met messaged me last July asking me to take a look @ this person's chart & what I thought about it's legitimacy.

Now...I have research dozens of supposed dates over the years that better astrologers than myself have researched tirelessly throughout the years with no luck.

Anyways I check this one out, not expecting really anything...but this one literally made me shake.

I asked the guy if he would mind telling me how he came into possession of this & the story was more than a little unsettling. Down right disturbing.

He has an astrologer friend who he describes as very gifted & somewhat well known but not like famous or nothing. He didn't give a name & I didn't ask. He said the astrologer was amazed by it though & he wanted a second opinion. I told him I agreed with his friend.

I have wanted to share this ever since but after he told me how his friend came into possession of it, I was honestly scared. Still am TBH.

But I am tired of hanging on to this. It found me for a reason.

I thought about cropping the date out and just posting the chart but I don't really wanna be on some power trip. It is not mine to do that I don't feel, so I left the info for ya'll to investigate whatever you want.

I dunno if anyone has seen this before, maybe I am being paranoid. I am Schizophrenic who was like 2 weeks outta the hospital due to a terrifying episode of psychosis when I got this so yeah, I got every right to be. You obviously have the gift of free will like me so do with it as you please, but I would appreciate you not being stupid w/ it.

Anyways...let's discuss. What is everyone's take on this?

The only thing that made me scratch my head is the year doesn't line up with the texts. But that can easily be explained with this quote:

"He who controls the information controls the world."

Or the similar:

"He who controls the message controls the media."

You don't think powerful groups are capable of tweaking little details here & there in order to line up the texts with the lie? We know for a fact some information & books were omitted & concealed from us already. It is an obvious explanation IMO. We are being lied to now about so much of reality & have been as long as man has roamed the earth.

But anyways... I posted 3 charts to include some relevant asteroids in there as well.

Enjoy! Tell me what you all think.

http://imgur.com/a/7nTiuG5
http://imgur.com/a/OHzzNY8
http://imgur.com/a/NMubIfq


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Dumuzi
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posted March 30, 2021 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where's the story about how the guy got the chart? all that build up and no story 😔

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posted March 30, 2021 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just actually looked at the chart, had a feeling it would be jesus

that being said what makes you feel this particular chart is valid when jesus' birthdate is largely left to speculation along with his existence?

there's no reason to believe it's his chart at all just like there's no reason to expect a book that's been translated a million times over and used as a tool to be wholly accurate

the bible is a very important and useful spiritual text don't get me wrong, but much of it has been altered and lost to time etc

the bible is useful as a grimoire and a literal approach takes away some of its meaning

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posted March 30, 2021 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrologer was Facebook friends with some guy, he didn't know him in real life. Just another guy he figured was following his astrology posts. Not strange..lots of his FB friends he didn't know personally.

One day he sent him a private message with the Bday asking him what he thought of it. The astrologer found it fascinating & made a YouTube video reading this chart & posted it up on his FB page. (Idk what the dude thought he was gonna do with it, but w/e)

Right after he posts it, this guy starts deleting all this stuff on his FB page & a few days later he deleted his account entirely. The astrologer tried searching for the guy online but couldn't find him anywhere. The guy who messaged me said the dude was tied to the Vatican. This made the astrologer a bit nervous so he took down the video. (I believe he has since put it back up but it is private.)

I don't mess with that organization. I 100% believe they have alot of info they are with holding from the world. Probably this dude had other info as well. Idk..it scared me though.

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posted March 30, 2021 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey you are 100% entitled to your own opinion, I ain't trying to tell no one what to believe. I am posting this because I know in my heart there is truth to this & I just wanna share it & see what others have to say on it. You could probably take more than 10 minutes to look @ it though.

But I get it..you probably want more reason besides my own intuition. I respect that. I'll post what I got from it logically hopefully sometime tonight when I get more time.

But I just thought it'd be cool to see what others have to say about it.

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posted March 30, 2021 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I couldn't get first one to open. Second one with Lucifer in 2nd, Mmmmmm .. I looked at third I'm thinking on this. Who was it you said gave these to you?


"Online Weirdos" lol

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VeronicaNicole
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posted March 30, 2021 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I couldn't get first one to open. Second one with Lucifer in 2nd, Mmmmmm .. I looked at third I'm thinking on this. Who was it you said gave these to you?


"Online Weirdos" lol



Here try this one.

http://imgur.com/a/MiqmgvL

The star of David pattern is what peaked my interest...like hmm okay let's take a gander at this shall we.

I didn't add the asteroids though until maybe a week ago. The 1st chart has the best ones though. DNA, Truth, Yeshua, Trueblood, devine..then a few others. If you still can't open the above link then you can do it yourself on astro.com


I posted the rest of the story like 3 or 4 comments down.


I remember that whole day being bizarre even before getting that dude's message.

I dunno any of these people. Some mysterious Vatican guy gave it to the astrologer, the astrologer shared the story with his friend who messaged me on another website. Idk why me, maybe he was impressed by something i posted,, maybe he messaged others idk but he said he wanted a 2nd opinion cause his friend seemed to be fascinated with his findings. I had only been on that website like a week though.

Yeah but I do think it's definitely worth looking at.


Yeah, bunch of weirdos all of yas. I'm probably queen weirdo though. At least princess

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posted March 30, 2021 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was just curious why you thought this particular chart was credible when there are other dates speculated as the real thing (it's pretty clearly not christmas for example, and if i recall correctly it's only referred to in the bible in terms of how much younger he is than john the baptist)

my point about the bible being altered and incomplete was partially about the vatican 🤷‍♀️

intuition is as good a reason as anything for a personal belief, doesn't quite work for me as a reason to believe it myself

i have to know someone and have examples of their intuition being good to trust that

it's an intriguing story doesn't necessarily mean anything though other than weird **** happens and people can behave in ways that don't make sense

for all i know the guy "connected to the vatican" wasn't really and deleted things out of sheer paranoia after making this chart and so on

not going to die on that hill or anything, just pointing out possibilities that aren't "this is definitely jesus' chart"

but to answer your other question is the vatican corrupt? beyond a doubt

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posted March 30, 2021 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there's a few more asteroids you could try
60185 Los Cruces, chirstcomet,
Lamb 16089, hermann 10239 (with Lucifer),
Melchior 3235, 4198 Panthera (research it)

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posted March 30, 2021 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I think there's a few more asteroids you could try
60185 Los Cruces, chirstcomet,
Lamb 16089, hermann 10239 (with Lucifer),
Melchior 3235, 4198 Panthera (research it)


I didn't get anything for los cruces, probably too long ago, info was unavailable.

Christ Comet is @ 18° pisces conjunct link,loving & Achilles. I included those asteroids in mine like his love for us was his Achilles heel.

Herman is @ 17° Sagittarius conjunct Devine & Truth. Sagittarius is the sign representing truth also.

Lamb is @ 12° Sagittarius. A little too far an asteroid to be conjunct the others.

Melchoir is @ 19° Aquarius & Panthera is @ 16° Aquarius conjunct asteroid Mary.

I also just added asteroids RIP-7711 (ik, kinda morbid) @ 27° Taurus & Rise-46632 @ 29° Taurus both which conjunct Lucifer & Cross. This whole conjunction is also on fixed star Algol (demon star)

I also used asteroid Godwin (I was looking for a God asteroid & this seemed the most relatable) maybe thats stretching it a little but it is placed @ 0° Aries conjunct exact Aternitas-446 (meaning eternity) & Lovejoy(61342) so imma include it.

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posted March 31, 2021 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i was just curious why you thought this particular chart was credible when there are other dates speculated as the real thing (it's pretty clearly not christmas for example, and if i recall correctly it's only referred to in the bible in terms of how much younger he is than john the baptist)

my point about the bible being altered and incomplete was partially about the vatican 🤷‍♀️

intuition is as good a reason as anything for a personal belief, doesn't quite work for me as a reason to believe it myself

i have to know someone and have examples of their intuition being good to trust that

it's an intriguing story doesn't necessarily mean anything though other than weird **** happens and people can behave in ways that don't make sense

for all i know the guy "connected to the vatican" wasn't really and deleted things out of sheer paranoia after making this chart and so on

not going to die on that hill or anything, just pointing out possibilities that aren't "this is definitely jesus' chart"

but to answer your other question is the vatican corrupt? beyond a doubt


You challenge me, I like that.

I am not going to lie, id say about half is intuition, why I believe this. I obviously cannot expect you or anyone here to trust some random person's gut feeling, lol. To me my intuition is everything though. So yes that did play a huge roll.

I believe this as truth though since I have definitely explored many dates including my own research (haha yeah, that got me real far) but more so those suggested by others.

I never have any expectations when looking at any chart, & this one was no different. I didn't get his message thinking anything of it. TBH if anything I was expecting it to be like everything before.

I looked at it for a minute not really knowing where to begin. I though..hmm maybe he gave me the wrong time? I go to change the time when something screams at me "you were given a specific time for a reason. Stop messing with ****! So I go back with the time I was given and noticed the star of David pattern this time so I was like hmm alright well if nothing else, that is a pretty awesome pattern. So I start reading and wasn't disappointed at all.

While intuition is important, I place equal importance on logic. Things have to make sense. Like how his Sun really has no aspects (well merc & asc are conjunct but in pisces) besides trine pluto in Sagittarius. Here is probably the most articulate description of that placement.:

"Sun trine Pluto natal lets you exert great power and influence over other people without even consciously trying to do so. In fact, this power, most often used for good, maybe a subconscious action. The talent is most often seen in your career, where a large number of people can be positively affected.

The self-realization of this talent can lead to a very evolved soul, especially as this aspect is noted for creating a continual need for the positive transformation of the ego. In such a way, you are conscious of your power and influence but not egoistic or boastful. You can instead be quietly content and proud of your achievements."

Not that this is proof but it does sound rather Jesus-y. I also thought that was significant that his sun is not really influencing anything else.

I havent looked at it in awhile but like a week ago I decided to toss in some asteroids for fun if nothing else. Yeah all those minor asteroids have little to no effect on the personality, at least i believe that. But they are real telling I have noticed in mine and other charts. And there is a ton of them all over this chart. Just crazy to me!

The truth is though, there is no way this info can be proven or disproven. Its not like we can physically ask him if this info is correct or not.

& the story..who knows..It could be nothing, or it could be something. All ik is I have a very strong opinion of the vatican.

This may sound silly, & kinda goes hand in hand with intuition but whenever dealing with something possessing a very unique and telling energy that feels incredibly "evil, corrupt, dark" to put it bluntly, there is a certain fear present in me I cannot explain but idk..its different.


But either way, I thought it was pretty cool. I wanted to see what other people get from this. Astrologers or astrology enthusiasts are really the only people who would find this interesting. You go up and show this to your average Joe they'd be like yeah sure w/e..go away.


But imma put together a reading on it sooner than later hopefully.

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posted March 31, 2021 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
glad you like it, i prefer that sort of thing personally myself, pushes me to refine my thinking and i appreciate that

like i said on an individual level i respect gut feelings as reason enough, being intuitive just is and people are able to just know things

i'm familiar with sun-pluto easy aspects, i have the sextile in my chart, so little bit toned down from the trine but still there (though my sun trines neptune and squares saturn as well)

the only asteroid of those i'm particularly familiar with is karma (i have it retrograde conjunct my moon/descendant/vesta etc little far from my north node to count if i remember right, though that's conjunct my descendant as well), but generally i don't read asteroids at all and generally when i do only where they make aspects to planets, angles, or nodes (i read them the way i would fixed stars)

so i'm failing to see the significance of many of these and their placements, however in a certain light all things which we give meaning and value will have them and in many cases sometimes the things we ignore can still have value

in other words this could be an oversight on my part rather than someone who uses asteroids the way you do

the energy bit doesn't sound silly at all, anything attached to a person carries a piece of them (chart included) the text i'm writing here for example carries my energy

a person who's naturally inclined or trained to tap into that could do so and feel me, that's just how things work, and it goes beyond that to what we can affect as well

not only have i seen and experienced these things, but i've studied the occult for many years at this point because of undeniable experiences both my own and shared with other people etc

schizophrenia and psychosis in my opinion do not prevent people from being capable of these things, but rather messes with the filter and the perception of them (a good deal of occultists drive themselves to these experiences/disorders when they aren't careful from what i've witnessed) so i'm not suggesting you're incapable of that

that being said "good" and "evil" being largely subjective i wonder if you have any synastry with this chart that affects your feelings of it

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posted March 31, 2021 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I saw the chart, I remembered "who" proposed it. I kept a copy ready, until the Jupiter-Saturn Aquarius conjunction called "Christmas Star" 2020.

I watched many videos, astronomical and astrological. Afterwards, I 'knew' that in the physical reality world, <name-removed>'s Chart of Jesus couldn't be true.

It was truly a Beautiful chart he came up with, in a 'spiritual' realm way. I listened to the long video where he delineated the chart. My Heart brimmed over, listening to it, and seeing this chart. Since I love Jesus, I was especially encouraged when the synastry of my/His chart seemed to close. I held it so dear for several years, until this past Christmas 2020.

But, it is NOT possible that this is 'the one' based on astronomical Events and the chronology based on old testament records.

<Name-removed> {who wore a distinctive medieval hat in each video} had a strong MAGA affiliation (right wing "conspiracy theory" insurrectionist-agenda politics). People accused him of being a Charlatan. I remember other astrologers who took him to court for damages, and won. <-->

- <URL Removed-- after OP got the chance to explore it for her info>

I used to listen to all his youtubes. He had an interesting-working mind. He was one person from whom I learned the mechanics on delineating charts. (He was a good teacher, to me.)

When he closed his accounts, I remembered his 'last' video where he announced it was "because" he was going to pursue a full time college degree working in the field of psychology/counseling. Then he went away...

*~

Veronica.. You are so BRAVE. My view of you is one of a very intelligent woman. Yes, even brilliant.

I've known an individual diagnosed with that, who had some (even financial) success and held responsible positions in social-agencies for a faction of people in the community.

He HAD to take his antipsychotic medicines to achieve and maintain that, the best he could.

I knew him from riding the bus each day. I guess he couldn't drive (for whatever reason)? He wore classy suits and clothing, briefcase, got off the bus at a stop in front of some really nice {more upscale} apartments in this area.

I remember how his 'face' would change-- grey and stiffen-- when he was experiencing episodes. He wouldn't be as communicative at those times. I honored his need for privacy and let him 'be to himself' for those times.
(I'm normally a friendly social person, and eventually get to know the people I see on daily basis, in a more personal way.}

He'd go missing (from taking the bus) for while. Then, later he'd resume. I'm guessing that he couldn't 'drive' because of how bad he would get? Misperceptions?

MOVIE
There was a movie called "A Beautiful Mind" which was based on the true story of John Forbes Nash, Jr, who had a genius for breaking codes {war/intelligence efforts in USA} who HAD that 'breakdown' occur.
Hallucinations, paranoia and extreme fears.
Had a wife and peers at Harvard who acted as his support system. He still made contributions to society; and, he would need to do 'reality' checks with them-- trying to discern what's real and what's not.

His genius math-code mind STILL could make great connections. Great movie!!

Some of the early treatments for schizophrenia are shown in this movie.. How abominable! Chemicals now 'do' for the brain what those barbaric trials did to get a person back on track.

(trailer) A Beautiful Mind (Russell Crowe actor)
[2:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWwAOutgWBQ

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash_Jr.

Here's his chart, with a written bio that is less-than honorable or flattering to this man, in a way.
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Nash,_John

This is SUCH a cool movie.
You watch it through the first time. When you come to the end, and watch the movie a second time, you see a totally different movie. This in itself was a brilliant film for its ability to do that. A two-fer.

There's another movie where the line "I see dead people" came from that does the SAME thing. Two movie experiences, with ONE film, if you re-watch with the knowledge the first ending gives you.

(topic) Symptoms of schizophrenia Explained by - A Beautiful Mind (2001) (Cadabam's Group) *YT Note quote*
"Symptoms of schizophrenia explained by the movie Beautiful mind Directed by Ron Howard in the year 2001.
This film is based on the life of John Nash who is the Nobel laureate in economics.
This character is portrayed by Russell Crowe one of the leading and famous actors from Wellington, New Zealand.
In this film, John Nash will be a sufferer of paranoid schizophrenia and displays all the symptoms accurately.

Taking this movie as a reference one can easily understand the risk and the pain involved in the so-called disorder schizophrenia.
Also, this movie is a perfect example of how an individual might suffer without the help of professionals (doctors) and the treatments.

This video is a sum of all the major symptoms evolved in schizophrenia which would be very helpful for the people who is searching for the details of the symptoms and the severity of the disorder who are not much aware of this mental illness.
/endquote


I've read some of your posts.
Such a very adept practical business woman.
You've given great analysis and advice.
You are Awesome, Veronica.

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posted March 31, 2021 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
When I saw the chart, I remembered "who" proposed it. I kept a copy ready, until the Jupiter-Saturn Aquarius conjunction called "Christmas Star" 2020.

I watched many videos, astronomical and astrological. Afterwards, I 'knew' that in the physical reality world, Gianpaolo's Chart of Jesus couldn't be true.

It was truly a Beautiful chart he came up with, in a 'spiritual' realm way. I listened to the long video where he delineated the chart. My Heart brimmed over, listening to it, and seeing this chart. Since I love Jesus, I was especially encouraged when the synastry of my/His chart seemed to close. I held it so dear for several years, until this past Christmas 2020.

But, it is NOT possible that this is 'the one' based on astronomical Events and the chronology based on old testament records.

Gianpaolo {who wore a distinctive medieval hat in each video} had a strong MAGA affiliation (right wing "conspiracy theory" insurrectionist-agenda politics). People accused him of being a Charlatan. I remember other astrologers who took him to court for damages, and won. (The second A stands for Astrology in his amagram. .. )
Make Astrology Great Again

- http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/search/text.jsp?case=D2017-1982

I used to listen to all his youtubes. He had an interesting-working mind. He was one person from whom I learned the mechanics on delineating charts. (He was a good teacher, to me.)

When he closed his accounts, I remembered his 'last' video where he announced it was "because" he was going to pursue a full time college degree working in the field of psychology/counseling. Then he went away...


Veronica.. You are so BRAVE. My view of you is one of a very intelligent woman. Yes, even brilliant.

I've known an individual diagnosed with that, who had some (even financial) success and held responsible positions in social-agencies for a faction of people in the community.

He HAD to take his antipsychotic medicines to achieve and maintain that, the best he could.

I knew him from riding the bus each day. I guess he couldn't drive (for whatever reason)? He wore classy suits and clothing, briefcase, got off the bus at a stop in front of some really nice {more upscale} apartments in this area.

I remember how his 'face' would change-- grey and stiffen-- when he was experiencing episodes. He wouldn't be as communicative at those times. I honored his need for privacy and let him 'be to himself' for those times.
(I'm normally a friendly social person, and eventually get to know the people I see on daily basis, in a more personal way.}

He'd go missing (from taking the bus) for while. Then, later he'd resume. I'm guessing that he couldn't 'drive' because of how bad he would get? Misperceptions?

MOVIE
There was a movie called "A Beautiful Mind" which was based on the true story of John Forbes Nash, Jr, who had a genius for breaking codes {war/intelligence efforts in USA} who HAD that 'breakdown' occur.
Hallucinations, paranoia and extreme fears.
Had a wife and peers at Harvard who acted as his support system. He still made contributions to society; and, he would need to do 'reality' checks with them-- trying to discern what's real and what's not.

His genius math-code mind STILL could make great connections. Great movie!!

Some of the early treatments for schizophrenia are shown in this movie.. How abominable! Chemicals now 'do' for the brain what those barbaric trials did to get a person back on track.

(trailer) A Beautiful Mind (Russell Crowe actor)
[2:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWwAOutgWBQ

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash_Jr.

Here's his chart, with a written bio that is less-than honorable or flattering to this man, in a way.
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Nash,_John

This is SUCH a cool movie.
You watch it through the first time. When you come to the end, and watch the movie a second time, you see a totally different movie. This in itself was a brilliant film for its ability to do that. A two-fer.

There's another movie where the line "I see dead people" came from that does the SAME thing. Two movie experiences, with ONE film, if you re-watch with the knowledge the first ending gives you.

(topic) Symptoms of schizophrenia Explained by - A Beautiful Mind (2001) (Cadabam's Group) *YT Note quote*
"Symptoms of schizophrenia explained by the movie Beautiful mind Directed by Ron Howard in the year 2001.
This film is based on the life of John Nash who is the Nobel laureate in economics.
This character is portrayed by Russell Crowe one of the leading and famous actors from Wellington, New Zealand.
In this film, John Nash will be a sufferer of paranoid schizophrenia and displays all the symptoms accurately.

Taking this movie as a reference one can easily understand the risk and the pain involved in the so-called disorder schizophrenia.
Also, this movie is a perfect example of how an individual might suffer without the help of professionals (doctors) and the treatments.

This video is a sum of all the major symptoms evolved in schizophrenia which would be very helpful for the people who is searching for the details of the symptoms and the severity of the disorder who are not much aware of this mental illness.
/endquote


I've read some of your posts.
Such a very adept practical business woman.
You've given great analysis and advice.
You are Awesome, Veronica.



Mirage you're one of the kindest people I've come across. Your comments always brighten my day 😄 I see your comments all throughout the forum, very few people put as much time & effort as you do helping random people whom you don't owe nothing. Its very refreshing.

I checked that guy out, I'm looking & looking & cannot find to much on his actual readings or anything else about his astrology skills. Most of it is just people ripping on the dude. Most of what people are saying is how unprofessional he is & how he is slandering other astrologers. Then there are those few supporters saying he's calling out fake astrologers. Probably a little of both in my opinion but regardless, the fact that he would do that in the first place says alot about his character. Clearly following the footsteps of his role model. Insult your competitors openly & publicly, call them names like a 5yo, then proceed to boast about your own perceived greatness.

I still cannot find anything he did about this chart though. While I believe now his vatican story is very likely just that, a story. If not then probably an embellishment. This guy seems like he would almost certainly elaborate any situation to make it sound more exciting than it is actually. He obviously did not create that moment in time, putting rocks & stars wherever in order to create that chart. So regardless that chart still exists & all but certainly belonged to someone.

I am not going to start challenging what is said in the texts as I do not know enough to really start a debate. I definitely took that into account though when trying to explain it.

I am no biblical scholar by any means & don't follow any organized religion but I do very much believe in christ & live by his word. (You know..as much as I possibly can )

I value what all you have said but that still doesn't void my own intuition on the matter. So yeah perhaps this isn't "the" Jesus's chart, the one we all know & love from his Bible adventures, this is a christ conscious person/being/spirit something. I am sorry but there is just too many synchronicities for me to dismiss it as nonsense. I don't go against my own inner knowing. I respect other opinions, there is alot I could learn from the texts.

All I know is people lie all the time so I am constantly questioning our collective reality. There is ALOT we aren't being told. Alot. The planets, the stars never lie. Our intuition never lies. Anything touched by man though can and probably will become corrupt to some extent.

But whoevers chart this is, no real way to prove or disprove anything. Unless I have reason to dismiss it, I'll just keep this friendly christ spirit around. He can be my guide or angel or something. 😇


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Surprisingly I have never seen that movie. Its on my eventually i'll do that list.

It is crazy how mental illnesses like schizophrenia affects each person so differently. I mean maybe not since that is just people in general.

I am going to look at Nash's birthchart too. I always am interested to see charts of people with mental illnesses to see how it manifested in that person.

What I havent looked at yet is the chart of someone with DID (dissociative identity disorder) which is also something I deal with. Not that I have really done much digging. (I am always all over the place.) In my chart its all pretty much my moon causing trouble :-P

Until recently whenever I'd be looking at my chart, I'd have this automatic response when looking at all the oppositions & squares like "aww my poor moon, everyone's got a problem with her." But a few weeks ago I was about to have that same thought when I'm like "wait..its HER thats got problems with everyone!" Typical 12th house moon being a drama queen.


Thank you again for info on who that astrology guy was. I am going to indulge a little in my guilty pleasure reading the mindless gossip on this guy.

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glad you like it, i prefer that sort of thing personally myself, pushes me to refine my thinking and i appreciate that

like i said on an individual level i respect gut feelings as reason enough, being intuitive just is and people are able to just know things

i'm familiar with sun-pluto easy aspects, i have the sextile in my chart, so little bit toned down from the trine but still there (though my sun trines neptune and squares saturn as well)

the only asteroid of those i'm particularly familiar with is karma (i have it retrograde conjunct my moon/descendant/vesta etc little far from my north node to count if i remember right, though that's conjunct my descendant as well), but generally i don't read asteroids at all and generally when i do only where they make aspects to planets, angles, or nodes (i read them the way i would fixed stars)

so i'm failing to see the significance of many of these and their placements, however in a certain light all things which we give meaning and value will have them and in many cases sometimes the things we ignore can still have value

in other words this could be an oversight on my part rather than someone who uses asteroids the way you do

the energy bit doesn't sound silly at all, anything attached to a person carries a piece of them (chart included) the text i'm writing here for example carries my energy

a person who's naturally inclined or trained to tap into that could do so and feel me, that's just how things work, and it goes beyond that to what we can affect as well

not only have i seen and experienced these things, but i've studied the occult for many years at this point because of undeniable experiences both my own and shared with other people etc

schizophrenia and psychosis in my opinion do not prevent people from being capable of these things, but rather messes with the filter and the perception of them (a good deal of occultists drive themselves to these experiences/disorders when they aren't careful from what i've witnessed) so i'm not suggesting you're incapable of that

that being said "good" and "evil" being largely subjective i wonder if you have any synastry with this chart that affects your feelings of it


I didn't really become interested in the minor asteroids until very recently when I joined here. I found the threads on them to be interesting & just went from there.

They're not really going to have much of an effect IMO, there not really there to influence the personality but they work really well as little indicators or bits of info that reflect that person's identity this life. Extra little confirmations regarding past lives & can even reveal the intentions of the person. This is what I have noticed anyway in myself & other charts. Some might still be parts of the soul identity that is still manifesting. Like something might pop in your head & you can toss in an asteroid related to whatever & sooner or later it makes sense. I don't just add asteroids if I don't know much about them or don't have a real reason. I think the general opinion is that they are somewhat of a nuisance but idk, I think they're fun! & you find some crazy synchronicities too.

I'll do charts of famous people sometimes. Like geniuses I will look for things that go hand in hand. If there is a rumor about a person I like to see if anything points one way or another. I do love doing charts of "evil" people, or people with a hidden agenda kind of investigate.

That is interesting about occultists triggering these disorders. I already had these diagnoses prior to me beginning my spiritual development but I did notice almost instantly my symptoms had intensified. At the time I was so focused on spiritual topics I related everything solely to that. Which I do believe it made much of my growth possible, it took me a couple years to realize that I was also sick and needed to find balance. I have been on meds for awhile, but you are right, it does mess with my filter. That is a good way to put it. My soul for some reason chose to go through a very aggressive transformation. Definitely taken a toll on the ol' psyche.

Likewise, I've had too many undeniable experiences taping into these energies but going back to the filters..it makes it hard to always confirm what I feel & know to be there because its got the crazy filters on. So I pick up alot of nonsense, lol.

I have done the synastries of course. I mean there are some cool connections but nothing mind blowing. I did notice on the 26th (the bday here) during the full moon. The moon was @ 8° libra which is exact his 8° Karma. While in my chart, I have karma @ 8° Aries..so conjuncting the Sun. I had just done the asteroids that morning too so I was able to notice it. So idk..maybe this christly spirit & I have got some business to take care of. We both have unaspected Dark Lilith. His @ 0° pisces & mine @ 0° Cancer. Both in the 12th house too. I am trying to find info on unaspected lilith but can't find any info.

In my chart i also have asteroid Church conjunct lilith exact @ 0 then directly opposite is angel @ 0° capricorn. In his chart directly opposite @ 0° virgo is my Name asteroid. Dunno what that means but its kinda cool. Then his draco sun is 23° Sagittarius same as my natal.

Probably some other stuff but thats what comes to mind.


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Thank you for your kind comment, VeronicaNicole.

Yes, you need to watch that movie! Watch it twice. Brilliant design by person who created the movie.

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Originally posted by VeronicaNicole:

I didn't get anything for los cruces, probably too long ago, info was unavailable.

Christ Comet is @ 18° pisces conjunct link,loving & Achilles. I included those asteroids in mine like his love for us was his Achilles heel.

Herman is @ 17° Sagittarius conjunct Devine & Truth. Sagittarius is the sign representing truth also.

Lamb is @ 12° Sagittarius. A little too far an asteroid to be conjunct the others.

Melchoir is @ 19° Aquarius & Panthera is @ 16° Aquarius conjunct asteroid Mary.

I also just added asteroids RIP-7711 (ik, kinda morbid) @ 27° Taurus & Rise-46632 @ 29° Taurus both which conjunct Lucifer & Cross. This whole conjunction is also on fixed star Algol (demon star)

I also used asteroid Godwin (I was looking for a God asteroid & this seemed the most relatable) maybe thats stretching it a little but it is placed @ 0° Aries conjunct exact Aternitas-446 (meaning eternity) & Lovejoy(61342) so imma include it.



I love your Passion! Nice cnj even @3° with Melechoir+Panthera.
I'll bet Mirage has more asteroids she might share with you. She has put much effort into her research.

I looked at Easter transits in the asteroid grp. Can you roll your transits to Sunday for the chart I wonder? Let's say it is timeless ~ idk but as a researcher we look at so much other's may scoff at.I admire your dedication .

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