posted May 10, 2021 01:02 PM            

Idk..I might try dating a girl because I don't have a problem with either gender but i guess girls will probably be the same too. Idk anymore. I'm just trying to find myself. i'm tired of my crap. Tired of feeling sorry for myself. Really. Its time to claim my power when I have gave it away too much (i beat myself up for it). I guess sex is not enough for me. I need more than just physical intimacy. I also notice that every time I express my real emotions I feel like its ugly and they say Im "too much". It's annoying.

Here is my chart for reference.

I just want to know how to connect with her. I feel like I can work with her but don't know how to approach her. Dont want to go to her because I am having "problems" in my life right now. Its weird but I want to treat her like any human or friend i know.. not just some "vitamin". if you get what I mean.

posted May 10, 2021 01:29 PM            

{conversation shifted from including the 'asteroid' to solely a discussion of hypothetical Liliths, so, removed 'asteroid' info to make it more in line with the conversation of the shifted thread. 2021may13}

posted May 10, 2021 01:33 PM            

Let me try again lol.

I decided to just put all the liliths there for reference. Its alittle confusing for me. But I will try to do research on all of them.

posted May 10, 2021 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by polly168:
Both lol But leaning towards the energy more.

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well when it comes to harnessing energy and parts of ourselves in general it's about where our focus lies, it's invocation in a sense, though i wouldn't recommend invoking lilith directly

i would say more putting the focus on the qualities associated that you want to bring into your life and yourself more and taking them into you while also releasing yourself from the things that block you from it

with healing work or anything really one of the things that's pretty important is finding a balance taking away some things to make room for what you want

waning moon into new moon is a good time for that

now if you wanted to invoke lilith directly then it becomes a matter of using her seal and calling her into you which a lot of people don't recommend for various reasons so fair warning that's not a good place to start

the other method is evocation which is from what i know very close to solomonic stuff, look to the lesser key of solomon for that :

bookpdf

would need her seal, she isn't goetia exactly but the underlying principles are the same

i have no personal experience with her in particular btw so i can only give you advice and the tools you'd need the rest is on you

if you want honesty though i'd say the first thing i mentioned is the best option, but i also feel like (personal opinion and unsolicited advice coming up lol) you should consider waiting until the pain goes and consider the idea that you don't need to change who you are just because someone else ****** up and hurt you

you can still be loved and valued as you are, just not by that person and it doesn't even mean anything personal

you can be a great person and beautiful and all of that and someone else can still hurt you in those ways because of their shortcomings and failures

i think healing and shadow work would do you more good than this (try reading jung and the middle pillar by israel regardie for a better explanation, or if you change your mind on this lilith thing i can explain this stuff to you better if you want help with it), but you have to want it you know? just something to consider before altering yourself or doing something risky

posted May 10, 2021 03:22 PM            

really recommend the middle pillar then, can't seem to find a proper pdf of that one for you though, but i'll keep looking

i had some intense experiences doing that myself, been considering revisiting as its been years now, and it's definitely worthwhile

i'm glad you're where i was hoping you'd be at, like i have no problem showing people what they need to do something they want but i'm always honest about whether or not it's a good idea and i think what you're doing is what's best

i'm sorry you went through that though, but considering the synchronicity i'm pretty confident in saying i think your shadow work will pay off

posted May 10, 2021 03:30 PM            

not too crazy about this one, but it seems to be the full text at least

posted May 11, 2021 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by polly168:
Stargirl2122:

Hey. I did what you told me. I selected h13. I was just wondering if you all see the chart? Cause from my end, I see it.

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I see it ! Oh wow you have Lilith in Scorpio in it's natural 8th house,(no wonder you talk of tieing up your man lol) which Scorpio rules the 8th house.
This is a powerful placement for lilith as some astrologers feel lilith is at home in Scorpio. This would give you amplified powers of magnetism and seduction along with hightened intuition/psychic ability. I don't think it will take you much to work with lilith as she is strongly placed in your chart.
However, you also have Saturn in Taurus, the great teacher, directly opposing your lilith. It makes me wonder if your Saturn "lessons" could be curtailed if you embrace her too much. Meaning overly embracing lilith could come at the expense of other karmic lessons you need to learn, Just as someone else said on here... everything in balance and moderation. With this placement, I believe you naturally and intuitively are connected to her, so don't feel like you need to go all in to bring her to the surface.

More on lilith and Saturn:
"Struggle for Perfection
Lilith brings a struggle for perfection that pairs with Saturn’s need for structure and boundaries. The two pair very well. But in stressful aspects with Saturn, she can bring conflicting emotions and a super drive for purity.

Obstacles
Whenever Saturn and Lilith are combined there is a drive for inner clarity but obstacles in the way of getting it. There is a struggle to bring into the light, our shadow self. When lifestyle or choices make this difficult, depression can be the result.

Wisdom
But even with all these difficulties, a combination of Saturn and Lilith bring depth, wisdom, and intense intelligence with sharp wit.

Touch of Skepticism
With aspects between Lilith and Saturn, nothing is believed or accepted without a touch of skepticism. On the positive side, you aren’t fooled very often, on the challenging side, you look for ways in which things aren’t true or how you are being fooled. This can distort facts and hinder progress through needlessly searching for “what is wrong here” when there is nothing to be found."

https://metastudies.com/content/the-black-moon-lilith-and-saturn/