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Belage
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posted May 20, 2021 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has been in the news since the beginning of twitter, and always for controversial matters. She elicits strong emotions. Some people love her, some people loath her. Here is her chart:

https://www.astro.com/tmpd/c4cifileSHht8t-u1616177632/astro_2atw_chrissy_teigen .60878.36932.png

ETA: Sorry the pic has expired.

At first glance, she has:

Scorpio rising
Venus conjunct ascendant
Saturn, Mercury and Sun conjunct in Saggitarius.

10 years ago she was cyber bullying a teenager, telling her by DM to commit suicide.

her actions have come back to haunt her. Saturn improperly used => Karma

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posted May 20, 2021 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't see the chart you posted bit she's obnoxious AF, IMO.

I remember there being a commercial for coconut water & she was in it but you couldn't tell it was her but last second she just had to go out of the way to get her fat head in the frame.

I am sure I would have tried that drink otherwise but naaa I avoid it for that reason alone.

Haven't seen her name in the longest. Don't think I have thought of her once either. Why is she famous again? Cause she's married to Arthur from channel 11?


Geez I'm quite the snarky ***** myself. It's the virgo moon. 😇 makes me super snarky


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posted May 20, 2021 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you are super snarky. lol

But CT is a piece of work. I can't believe she was telling a teenager she should commit suicide. I saw the former tweet where she told her she should take a "dirt nap." Who talks like that? That is just so abnormal and cruel.

I can't seem to post an image that's going to last more than 1 hour. So I left the URL link, it still works.

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posted May 21, 2021 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her behaviour is known for years but media still venerated her because she often tweeted against Trup lol now they act outraged? Let me roll my eyes.

I am looking at her chart, where would that mean spirit come from?

Twitter in general seems to be a place that takes out the worst from people, it is such a negarive place, i know how negative I was when i used it, we should look up twitters chart too lol


She has saturn conjunct mercury, and sun - could it be that her lesson in life is to learn to filter her toughts and words? To learn to manage her ego and not speak first thing that comes to her mind? Not to lash out when ego is hurt?

I dont think she MEANT any harm, i think she is just not as bright as shed like to think

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posted May 21, 2021 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally I don’t comment on “celebrities” because whatever but I was bored yesterday so I looked up some interviews with her on YouTube and I honestly think she’s vile.

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posted May 21, 2021 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amoranthaniela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first time I learned of her existence was via a friend who mentioned her last year and told me about an old deleted tweet condoning pedophilia?

Other than that I find her simply banal...

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posted May 21, 2021 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me Twitter/Facebook/Instagram & all online social platforms etc. are Merc,3rd house & Gem energy platforms.

Notice how trans Plu is retro 26Cap and is currently on her 3rd house cusp of Cap (communication/twitter/ media).

If Plu is about excavation. Now just imagine when Plu is retro? Things from the past are re-evaluated & dissected obsessively.

Celebs should just not say anything on Twitter.This unless its to spread joy, love & happiness(which on 2nd thoughts, can also be misconstrued). So best they just shut up!

Plu- trans her 3rd house-her words will be dissected to death-this to uncover any "nefarious" or hidden meaning.

Sat in Sag rules her 3rd house and Jup in Aqua in the 3rd are in mutual reception. Uranus in Sag in house 1 and intercepted Aqua in 3rd with Jupiter in Aqua in 3rd house are also in mutual reception.

So I can see why her tweets can be shocking and/or cold. The prevalent "Aqua"/Ura & Sat influence would make them so.

Since Sat Sag (ruler of natal 3rd house) is squaring Jup-Pis. And Saturn trans is conj Jupiter in 3rd, she'll have to defend her comments to the public jury(Jup Pis and Sat Aqua).

Perhaps it's also symbolic that prog Moon at 0 Sco just entered the 12th house of self-undoing? The hpuse of the 12th is 29Lib.

Notice that natal Moon rules the 9th house of publishing. Her "published works"(in this case her tweets) are leading to her self undoing (prog Moon in 12th)?

Prog Moon in Sco O trine trans Jup-Pis O.She is likely to go into hiding and escape retribution for a while. Or perhaps have an opportunity to apologize & be forgiven?

This especially when I see trans Jupiter Pisces sextile prog Merc in Sag 28(10th house Virgo ruler)

But I see her going into hiding/retracting her posts. Pluto will retro to 2nd house of money.The backlash may affect her bank balance.So her online interaction may be less active for a while.

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posted May 21, 2021 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
The first time I learned of her existence was via a friend who mentioned her last year and told me about an old deleted tweet condoning pedophilia?

Other than that I find her simply banal...


She has had a series of tweets where she sexualized young children. I cannot post them here because they have been deleted, but sceenshots of them remain all over the net. Here are some contents:

I just saw a baby that looked like a pornstar. Like a trashy do-anything porn star. Is this wrong to think?

Seeing little girls do the split half-naked is just... I want to put myself in jail. #toddlersandtiaras

I am about to Anthony Wiener this kid.
(NOTE: Keep in mind Anthony Wiener is former politician and a convicted sex offender)

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posted May 21, 2021 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
For me Twitter/Facebook/Instagram & all online social platforms etc. are Merc,3rd house & Gem energy platforms.

Notice how trans Plu is retro 26Cap and is currently on her 3rd house cusp of Cap (communication/twitter/ media).

If Plu is about excavation. Now just imagine when Plu is retro? Things from the past are re-evaluated & dissected obsessively.

Celebs should just not say anything on Twitter.This unless its to spread joy, love & happiness(which on 2nd thoughts, can also be misconstrued). So best they just shut up!

Plu- trans her 3rd house-her words will be dissected to death-this to uncover any "nefarious" or hidden meaning.

Sat in Sag rules her 3rd house and Jup in Aqua in the 3rd are in mutual reception. Uranus in Sag in house 1 and intercepted Aqua in 3rd with Jupiter in Aqua in 3rd house are also in mutual reception.

So I can see why her tweets can be shocking and/or cold. The prevalent "Aqua"/Ura & Sat influence would make them so.

Since Sat Sag (ruler of natal 3rd house) is squaring Jup-Pis. And Saturn trans is conj Jupiter in 3rd, she'll have to defend her comments to the public jury(Jup Pis and Sat Aqua).

Perhaps it's also symbolic that prog Moon at 0 Sco just entered the 12th house of self-undoing? The hpuse of the 12th is 29Lib.

Notice that natal Moon rules the 9th house of publishing. Her "published works"(in this case her tweets) are leading to her self undoing (prog Moon in 12th)?

Prog Moon in Sco O trine trans Jup-Pis O.She is likely to go into hiding and escape retribution for a while. Or perhaps have an opportunity to apologize & be forgiven?

This especially when I see trans Jupiter Pisces sextile prog Merc in Sag 28(10th house Virgo ruler)

But I see her going into hiding/retracting her posts. Pluto will retro to 2nd house of money.The backlash may affect her bank balance.So her online interaction may be less active for a while.


I never got into progressions when I was obsessed with astrology and I wish I did, Excellent analysis!

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posted May 21, 2021 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Her behaviour is known for years but media still venerated her because she often tweeted against Trup lol now they act outraged? Let me roll my eyes.

I am looking at her chart, where would that mean spirit come from?

Twitter in general seems to be a place that takes out the worst from people, it is such a negarive place, i know how negative I was when i used it, we should look up twitters chart too lol


She has saturn conjunct mercury, and sun - could it be that her lesson in life is to learn to filter her toughts and words? To learn to manage her ego and not speak first thing that comes to her mind? Not to lash out when ego is hurt?

I dont think she MEANT any harm, i think she is just not as bright as shed like to think


When she was posting these tweets and getting into teenagers' DM to tell them to kill themselvels, she had everything. Beauty, success and money as a model, marriage to a famous and wealthy singer. She had everything this material world can give. Yet her mind was engaged in this dangerous game of adrenaline rush.

Twitter can be dangerous for people's mental health. The addiction to the rush from getting "like" and getting embroiled in controversy.

I do agree with your analysis of Saturn and her mercury and her lesson in life. Interestingly, the upcoming lunar eclipse in Sagg is going to fall smack on her Saturn, Mercury and Sun stellium.

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posted May 21, 2021 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mostly saw her with an association with John Legend who seems like a complete opposite of her and a nice guy. I liked her because of him, and she could be funny. And I don’t mind noisy people. I’ve never heard about all of these.

I thought she has the second bitchy face and something terribly wrong with her when I saw her chart. It is very similar to my ex-friend who is cold, calculating, narcissistic and could take advantage of everybody, but has some charisma.
And now it’s all fall into place.
No wonder I liked CT because I used to like crappy personalities.

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posted May 21, 2021 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
When she was posting these tweets and getting into teenagers' DM to tell them to kill themselvels, she had everything. Beauty, success and money as a model, marriage to a famous and wealthy singer. She had everything this material world can give. Yet her mind was engaged in this dangerous game of adrenaline rush.

Twitter can be dangerous for people's mental health. The addiction to the rush from getting "like" and getting embroiled in controversy.

I do agree with your analysis of Saturn and her mercury and her lesson in life. Interestingly, the upcoming lunar eclipse in Sagg is going to fall smack on her Saturn, Mercury and Sun stellium.



Yeah I was thinking that too with saturn.

I have a similar aspect with saturn sag conjunct sag sun & mercury in sag. Mercury & the sun are not in aspect to each other though. Sun is at 23 in 6th (uranus @ 22) saturn @ 13 in 6th & mercury @ 8 but it falls right on the cusp. Mercury is weak as hell in my chart (also conjuncts asteroid Medusa exact) I kind of have the same general lesson as formentioned in that I need to think before I speak lol. However mine never got anywhere near CT. I got rid of Facebook @ the beginning of 2013 & never got into Twitter or anything. Twitter always seemed obnoxious as hell to me. People were already using FB to blurt out random nonsense now someone is creating a platform entirely dedicated to that?

I've said some mean **** usually in the moment that I'm not particularly proud of but looking at wtf comes outta her mouth I'm thinking wow wtf do I feel guilty for geez.

I think this placements lack of a filter makes the native subconsciously reveal their real self..like they can't hide behind a mask so easily like people without this kind of lesson. If that makes any sense? Lol. Part of my own lesson right here, learning how to talk more goodly.

I don't really agree that it wasn't her intent to hurt the others feelings when saying such unnecessarily nasty things about people. Perhaps she was doing it in retaliation? Idk..sometimes it seemed like she just didn't like something about a person completely unrelated to her in every way possible..alot of times about people whom she never even met and would just start saying mean **** for no reason.

Like this teen she was harassing telling her to off herself? Like what on earth could cause THAT response?! Holy **** .. I don't even think that sort of thing.. probably most people don't, or at least have enough common sense not to scream out on the internet for crying out loud...😑

It seemed like this 16yo was marrying a 50 year old dude & she seemed to be bothered by this fact and that's what triggered it.

Then some 9 year old kid actor won an award and she starts tweeting that she's cocky and oh I'm supposed to like this person cause she's a kid? No one cares what you (or anybody else) think about this kid or anything for that matter. Such an unnecessary thing to say. She must be filled with alot of self hate to be taking these things so personally. Like they exist solely to torment her psyche.

I dunno about John legend either. Something just seems..off. maybe I am just thinking that because something would have to be malfunctioning up there to think for a moment CT would be a good choice for a wife & the mother of your children? I mean how do you get past the first date? A normal person wouldn't be thinking "hey imma call that chic back" & not something along the lines of "yikes... time to change numbers" is beyond me. But that's just me.

But w/e I guess I'm not much better sitting here talking about her 😆 a little bit though...😇😎 there are planets in mine... & logic. So nvmd..yeah I'm better.

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posted May 21, 2021 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I mostly saw her with an association with John Legend who seems like a complete opposite of her and a nice guy. I liked her because of him, and she could be funny. And I don’t mind noisy people. I’ve never heard about all of these.

I thought she has the second bitchy face and something terribly wrong with her when I saw her chart. It is very similar to my ex-friend who is cold, calculating, narcissistic and could take advantage of everybody, but has some charisma.
And now it’s all fall into place.
No wonder I liked CT because I used to like crappy personalities.



IK I get that too when looking at charts. Like I get a feeling first glance at a chart. Most are unassuming...just your average joe..sometime you'll find some cool **** or they'll be weak AF like they belong to the most boring person. Then every now and then you get these charts that just give off dark vibes.

I started making random charts one day for a few hours just doing that. Someone made a similar post awhile back & one day I decided to do it. Of course I didn't save them or nothing.😑

That's a good idea 💡 though. Just make a bunch of charts & record our initial impression & aspects to back that up. then post them on here & we can compare notes and see how they relate or if we seem to follow a pattern.

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posted May 21, 2021 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah I was thinking that too with saturn.

I have a similar aspect with saturn sag conjunct sag sun & mercury in sag. Mercury & the sun are not in aspect to each other though. Sun is at 23 in 6th (uranus @ 22) saturn @ 13 in 6th & mercury @ 8 but it falls right on the cusp. Mercury is weak as hell in my chart (also conjuncts asteroid Medusa exact) I kind of have the same general lesson as formentioned in that I need to think before I speak lol. However mine never got anywhere near CT. I got rid of Facebook @ the beginning of 2013 & never got into Twitter or anything. Twitter always seemed obnoxious as hell to me. People were already using FB to blurt out random nonsense now someone is creating a platform entirely dedicated to that?

I've said some mean **** usually in the moment that I'm not particularly proud of but looking at wtf comes outta her mouth I'm thinking wow wtf do I feel guilty for geez.

I think this placements lack of a filter makes the native subconsciously reveal their real self..like they can't hide behind a mask so easily like people without this kind of lesson. If that makes any sense? Lol. Part of my own lesson right here, learning how to talk more goodly.

I don't really agree that it wasn't her intent to hurt the others feelings when saying such unnecessarily nasty things about people. Perhaps she was doing it in retaliation? Idk..sometimes it seemed like she just didn't like something about a person completely unrelated to her in every way possible..alot of times about people whom she never even met and would just start saying mean **** for no reason.

Like this teen she was harassing telling her to off herself? Like what on earth could cause THAT response?! Holy **** .. I don't even think that sort of thing.. probably most people don't, or at least have enough common sense not to scream out on the internet for crying out loud...😑

It seemed like this 16yo was marrying a 50 year old dude & she seemed to be bothered by this fact and that's what triggered it.

Then some 9 year old kid actor won an award and she starts tweeting that she's cocky and oh I'm supposed to like this person cause she's a kid? No one cares what you (or anybody else) think about this kid or anything for that matter. Such an unnecessary thing to say. She must be filled with alot of self hate to be taking these things so personally. Like they exist solely to torment her psyche.

I dunno about John legend either. Something just seems..off. maybe I am just thinking that because something would have to be malfunctioning up there to think for a moment CT would be a good choice for a wife & the mother of your children? I mean how do you get past the first date? A normal person wouldn't be thinking "hey imma call that chic back" & not something along the lines of "yikes... time to change numbers" is beyond me. But that's just me.

But w/e I guess I'm not much better sitting here talking about her 😆 a little bit though...😇😎 there are planets in mine... & logic. So nvmd..yeah I'm better.


You're having a similar type of stellium in sagg is proof that people do not have to actualize the worst part of astrological aspects. You chose to get off social media, but she chose to stay and use it as a medium of expression.

You mentioned her lack of filter. It is true that Sagg tends to lack filter. But with Saturn there, filter must be used, otherwise there will be karma to pay. Instead of filtering her thoughts, CT used her Saturn to harass young people.

Regarding John Legend. He had to have known the kind of stuff she was putting online, and he must have approved of it or thought it was fine. I have this theory about couples where one person gives off a sweet, angelic aura and the other is a mean nasty jerk or an itch from hell.

Water always seeks its own level. Birds of a feathers...

The person who gives off the "good person" aura is actually not owning their own shadow side and is living vicariously through the bad behavior of their partner. The partner is doing what they are not allowing themselves to do. And deep down, in a sick way, they love it. I have seen that every time.

ETA: By the way, both CT and John Legend have Venus in Scorpio, conjunct.

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My cappy sister could say really awful things like this, that she would never say publicly, because she couldn’t take the clap-back. I was just thinking about the fact that her husband couldn’t get away with harassing me, and hurting me, but she did. On his behalf. Thinking about it before I came here.

I don’t agree with what Chrissy said, and I don’t think that John Legend is a quiet creep. *edited, because telling someone to kill themselves is terrible. Twitter has a long history of letting people get away with harassment and maliciousness, especially if they’re famous. It took attempted insurrection, for them to get rid of someone with millions of followers. If someone brings them traffic, they aren’t going to get rid of them, unless they absolutely have to.

http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/ culture/2016/12/10/13898352/trump-twitter-harassment-policy-bannable


That article also mentions Milo Yiannapolous.
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Trump,_Donald

Why weren’t people harassing the 50-year-old “dude” who married a teenager??

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http://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/08/16/25350012/the-astrological-sign s-of-horrible-people

Milo discussion: http://noeltyl.com/discussion/index.php?topic=8282.0

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Milo_Yiannopoulos
He’s a Libra, with moon in Leo.

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posted May 21, 2021 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doug Hutchison: http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Doug_Hutchison

But Venus is Pedophile isn’t a placement.

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Donald Trump’s tweets fit a pattern of harassment Twitter has banned before

The President-elect’s targets may endure real-life threats from hordes of his supporters.

By Aja Romano on December 10, 2016 10:20 am

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After the election, Twitter issued a statement to Slate that it would “take action” on any accounts that violated its harassment and hate speech policies:

“The Twitter Rules prohibit violent threats, harassment, hateful conduct, and multiple account abuse, and we will take action on accounts violating those policies. ... The Twitter Rules apply to all accounts, including verified accounts.”

Do President-elect Donald Trump’s tweets fall into this category of actionable offenses? In a nutshell, yes.

It’s no secret that Trump’s statements on Twitter have been controversial, viewed by many as bullying, inflammatory, and divisive. But a new article from the Washington Post about the impact of a single Trump tweet on one of his targets — an 18-year-old female college student who questioned whether he was “a friend to women” — shows just how much damage, and potentially how much violence, can ensue from the president-elect’s chosen social media

After student Lauren Batchelder, now 19, questioned Trump at a New Hampshire public forum in 2015, she was bombarded with hate, harassment, and threats from Trump supporters responding to Trump’s tweet calling her a “nasty,” “arrogant young woman” and implying she was a plant for Jeb Bush. (Both Bush’s former campaign spokesperson Tim Miller and Batchelder ridiculed this idea to the Washington Post.) This harassment has included everything from online sexual threats and doxxing (the public broadcasting of her real-life address and other personal details) to phone calls threatening violence. Over a year after the incident, Batchelder told the Post she still receives threats over social media.

While the initial tweet may have from Trump, the resulting harassment leveled at Batchelder didn’t; rather, it came from a handful of harassers among his millions of supporters. But that distinction shouldn’t matter to Twitter — and it hasn’t in the past.

Twitter has seen — and banned — this kind of behavior before
When Twitter decided to ban Breitbart star blogger Milo Yiannopoulos — a poster child for the internet-bred white supremacist movement known as the alt-right — it did not do so because Yiannopoulos was posting hate speech from his notorious account. Granted, he had been posting hate speech and harassment, like his infrequent jokes that Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones was a man — but Twitter’s responses to this kind of behavior from Yiannopoulos, a verified user, had always been temporary suspensions with eventual reinstatement.

But Yiannopoulos’s incitement of a spontaneous hate mob to rally against Jones after the Ghostbusters premiere pushed Twitter over the edge. Jones was already facing harassment from cranky alt-right members and Ghostbusters fans, rising anger that had grown steadily over the weekend of the film’s US opening. The following Monday evening, Yiannopoulos essentially threw a lit match on the growing trash pile of harassment by retweeting one of Jones’s tweets and accusing her of “playing the victim” and being unable to handle a little “hate mail.”

It was only one tweet — but it summoned hours upon hours of harassment for Jones. Over the course of that long Monday night, Yiannopoulos’s followers insulted, mocked, and harassed Jones with tweets numbering in the thousands. Hundreds of the male alt-right members and trolls harassing Jones took pains to include Yiannopoulos in replies to many of their tweets — almost as a kind of salute.

The incident was enough to finally make public outrage around Yiannopoulos’s behavior louder than the support of his fans. Twitter booted Yiannopoulos, who has since reemerged on the new alt-right-friendly social media platform Gab.


The similarities between Yiannopoulos’s behavior and Trump’s are numerous

Even setting aside the connection between Yiannopoulos’s behavior toward Jones and the alt-right’s larger role in the political climate of 2016, there are a number of similarities between Trump and Yiannopoulos. Most notable is the way each man has used Twitter as a megaphone and a weapon.

Strikingly, neither of them generally engaged in direct harassment of their opponents. Instead, both men simply tweeted out an accusation or two and let their mass of supporters do the rest. This strategy relies on the alt-right’s independently evolved tactics of trolling and harassment, tools forged in the huge multiyear harassment campaign that was Gamergate. The social media arm of the alt-right and other right-wing supporters know exactly how to swing into action quickly to launch a sustained harassment campaign against whomever their leaders direct them toward. And their leaders know exactly what the effects of their direction will be.

Earlier this week, for example, Trump sent a horde of harassers after Carrier union leader Chuck Jones with a December 7 tweet in which he called Jones “terrible” at his job. Jones is an Indiana steel union leader who previously took issue with Trump’s claims that he had saved 1,100 Carrier jobs, calling the real number closer to 730 and accusing the president-elect of lying. Jones told the Indianapolis Star the night of Trump’s tweet that his phone had since been ringing off the hook with threats from Trump fans: “Calling me names, wanting to know if I have children ... [saying] I better watch out for myself, and they know what kind of car I drive, that I better watch out for my kids.”

Again, the pattern is clear: Trump designates an enemy of the moment on Twitter, and his followers go into attack mode. They dox the target, call and invade their real-life space, and issue threats to the target and the target’s family.

This is clearly in line with the behavior for which Twitter previously banned Yiannopoulos.

Trump is galvanizing some of Twitter’s most hate-filled users
Even if Trump isn’t personally using racialized and misogynistic speech on Twitter, a huge subset of his followers are tuned in to alt-right rhetoric and social media. In January 2016, an analysis of Trump’s Twitter found that 62 percent of the people he retweeted in a given week followed more than one white supremacist Twitter account. Trump is retweeting the viewpoints of white nationalists and white supremacists, and they, in turn, are very vocally and visibly paying attention to what he has to say.

That means that every time Trump chooses to use his Twitter platform to directly target someone he’s angry with, he’s not just putting them directly in front of his 17 million Twitter users; he’s putting them directly in front of some of Twitter’s most fervently bigoted users — ones whose culture of online harassment has created an environment in which they are more likely to dehumanize their targets and detach from the harm they cause.

Trump’s casual followers may get angry and move on, but Trump’s many alt-right followers won’t. They won’t just harass Trump’s targets; they will harass them using racist, misogynistic speech and threats of violence. In fact, they’re already doing so on a regular basis. In January, a female Republican campaign strategist was subjected to an onslaught of misogynistic harassment and online threats of sexualized violence for days after Trump dropped a negative tweet about her. Later, Trump supporters would photoshop Batchelder’s face covered in semen.

Jones, a 30-year union man, was able to shrug off the threats because he had grown used to them over time. But a 19-year-old student like Batchelder, or anyone else less hardened to years of harassment, might not have as easy a time; in fact, in a 2014 Pew study, 78 to 79 percent of survey respondents described their experiences with online harassment as varying degrees of “upsetting.” (To be fair, Batchelder seems to have fared well; she created a Twitter account on Friday, where hundreds of supporters welcomed her, congratulating her for her courage in standing up to Trump and the trolls.)

The logic that targets of harassment should just deal with it and move on not only ignores the psychological reality of such harassment; it also assumes that the onus should be on Trump’s Twitter targets to just grow a thicker skin and ignore the harassment, rather than on Trump himself to be less incendiary, negative, and accusatory on social media.

But Trump, despite initially saying he might quit Twitter altogether after assuming the presidency, has instead shown every sign of using the platform as his unofficial microphone, his direct access to the public and a kind of ongoing press soapbox.

Thus, if we accept that the onus doesn’t appear to be on Trump to discourage his followers from being less hateful — or even to restrain himself from being less antagonistic and aggressive — perhaps it might be on Twitter itself.

The reality is that Twitter is unlikely to act against Trump
Of course, this all assumes that Twitter will apply its policies fairly and evenly across the platform — which, as anyone who’s tried to report harassment to the site knows, isn’t always the case.

For example, Dutch extremist leader Geert Wilders, who was just convicted in the Netherlands of inciting hate and discrimination against Dutch Moroccan citizens, still has a Twitter platform, where he continues to issue the same strain of divisive and racist rhetoric that got him convicted in the Dutch court.

This is incendiary, divisive Islamophobic speech that saw Wilders indicted in a national court — but it’s also pretty close to the kind of rhetoric Trump used throughout his campaign circuit. And if Twitter has no incentive to ban Wilders, even with the rule of law working in its favor, it’s unlikely to ban Trump for tweets that so far have been less direct, even if there is ample evidence that they are fueling harassment.

After the election, Twitter did purge a huge number of alt-right accounts, arguably in response to criticism it received for giving the alt-right a mouthpiece on the site to begin with. But extending that action to purging the president-elect himself is a different matter. On December 6, the day before Trump attacked Chuck Jones on Twitter, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey told Recode editor Kara Swisher at Recode’s conference that he thought Trump’s Twitter presence was “interesting”:

[H]aving the president-elect on our service — using it as a direct line of communication — allows everyone to see what’s on his mind in the moment. I think that’s interesting. I think it’s fascinating. I haven’t seen that before.

Dorsey’s attitude here indicates that his company is highly unlikely to take action against Trump for inciting onslaughts of virulent harassment and hate speech toward his Twitter targets. That doesn’t change the fact that the company has done so in similar situations in the past.

One thing that could arguably change the situation is public outrage — the kind Yiannopoulos sparked when he and his followers went after a popular comedian. But public outrage has so far done little to quell Trump, while his number of followers is only growing.

And as Trump’s first anti-Batchelder Twitter user was quick to point out, it will be harder than ever for Trump’s targets to avoid the scrutiny of Trump’s supporters — because “now we have social media.”

Update: On December 10, Twitter reinstated and verified the formerly banned account of white supremacist alt-right leader Richard Spencer. Spencer, who recently spearheaded a white nationalist convention where several attendees performed Nazi salutes in support of the President-elect, had previously been banned from Twitter in its November purge of many alt-right accounts. The move also comes after Twitter’s November rollout of advanced reporting tools for users battling harassment, which was accompanied by a blog post reaffirming the site’s commitment to its “hateful conduct” policy.

Correction: This article originally linked to a Twitter presence claiming to be Chuck Jones, created December 9. That Twitter account has since been suspended.


For people who don’t want to click. So trump’s followers harassed a teenager, doxxed her, sent threats of rape, etc. before he was elected. This article is from 2016.

Also, for those in GU, who thought it was hilarious that Biden was considered the president-elect on November 7th: Trump was called the president-elect, before January 6th 2017.

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i didn't know she existed until recently when another thread about her was made here and i had to look her up (some **** about her being a natural beauty 🤣 or something if i remember right)

i'm not a fan of cancel culture personally, but i think when someone is telling a teenager or anyone to kill themselves it's probably good that people get to see they're a piece of **** 🤷‍♀️ especially saying that to a kid as an adult though

it takes a particularly horrible person to say things like to someone else especially an adult saying that to a minor, because you never know what's going on in a person's life or how they'll handle that sort of thing

can't even feel bad for her or like the backlash is overblown at least not now, depends on where they take it, though i don't think there's really much redemption to be had for someone who's like that

@teasel

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Granted, he had been posting hate speech and harassment, like his infrequent jokes that Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones was a man —

i had to look up leslie jones because i didn't know who she was and milo can be funny as hell

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I mostly saw her with an association with John Legend who seems like a complete opposite of her and a nice guy. I liked her because of him, and she could be funny. And I don’t mind noisy people. I’ve never heard about all of these.

I thought she has the second bitchy face and something terribly wrong with her when I saw her chart. It is very similar to my ex-friend who is cold, calculating, narcissistic and could take advantage of everybody, but has some charisma.
And now it’s all fall into place.
No wonder I liked CT because I used to like crappy personalities.


She has the exact same birthday as my former friend who was a lying, backstabbing A*hole, who also slept with many married men.

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i didn't know she existed until recently when another thread about her was made here and i had to look her up (some **** about her being a natural beauty 🤣 or something if i remember right)

i'm not a fan of cancel culture personally, but i think when someone is telling a teenager or anyone to kill themselves it's probably good that people get to see they're a piece of **** 🤷‍♀️ especially saying that to a kid as an adult though

it takes a particularly horrible person to say things like to someone else especially an adult saying that to a minor, because you never know what's going on in a person's life or how they'll handle that sort of thing

can't even feel bad for her or like the backlash is overblown at least not now, depends on where they take it, though i don't think there's really much redemption to be had for someone who's like that

@teasel

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[b] Granted, he had been posting hate speech and harassment, like his infrequent jokes that Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones was a man —

i had to look up leslie jones because i didn't know who she was and milo can be funny as hell

[/B]


I fully agree that an adult should not be bullying or threatening teens. However, I'm shocked that the Courtney Stodden tweets are the first thing that made people want to cancel Chrissy Teigen. They should've wanted to cancel her over her pedophilic tweets. She had some very disgusting tweets about toddlers that would've landed any man in prison. Somehow people are ok with these tweets that show her very clear attraction to young children. She is a creep!

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Originally posted by Astra:
I fully agree that an adult should not be bullying or threatening teens. However, I'm shocked that the Courtney Stodden tweets are the first thing that made people want to cancel Chrissy Teigen. They should've wanted to cancel her over her pedophilic tweets. She had some very disgusting tweets about toddlers that would've landed any man in prison. Somehow people are ok with these tweets that show her very clear attraction to young children. She is a creep!

i don't disagree with you, but like you said i think that has to do with the blind eye people often turn to female abusers/sex offenders/pedophiles more than anything else

women tend to be more able to get away with things like that as a whole, i'd be willing to bet if she was a man saying those things they would've been brought to light a lot sooner

it's a really awful bias but unfortunately not a surprising one that hopefully changes at some point


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Originally posted by Belage:

I just saw a baby that looked like a pornstar. Like a trashy do-anything porn star. Is this wrong to think?

Yes.

Seeing little girls do the split half-naked is just... I want to put myself in jail. #toddlersandtiaras

I am about to Anthony Wiener this kid.


I agree with that last part there about jail, Chrissy. That is probably the most brilliant, lucid idea you have ever formed.

(NOTE: Keep in mind Anthony Wiener is former politician and a convicted sex offender)


😐

I had no idea about her actual quotes but I remember the epstein scandal she & legend supposedly went to the island once & once the contents of his flight log came out she was deleting like a ridiculous amount of tweets and mass blocking millions of people. Then she was on there tweeting defensive things. Cause that's how an innocent person acts...🙄

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Why weren’t people harassing the 50-year-old “dude” who married a teenager??[/B]


Good question! 🤣 like wtf? Careful there, thats using too much common sense, teasel.

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

i'm not a fan of cancel culture personally, but i think when someone is telling a teenager or anyone to kill themselves it's probably good that people get to see they're a piece of **** 🤷‍♀️ especially saying that to a kid as an adult though


I could not agree more.

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